August 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

RE: [ZDP] Bending Structured Text to My Will
by Miller, John M. 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

Thanks! But unfortunately that didn't work :-(. But in any case you did indirectly get me to a solution, as your comment about rendering got me to thinking. The trick with the HTML markup is to replace the <'s and >'s with &lt and &gt, respectively. For example: <a href="http://www.zope.org">Zope Rocks!</a> Would become &lta href="http://www.zope.org"&gtZope Rocks!&lt/a&gt This also works with my example, so: "Zope":http://blah.blah ... becomes &quotZope&quot:http://blah.blah ... Ugly for the writer, indeed, but pretty(-er) for the reader (and that's all that counts, right?). Ciao, John > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Crosby [SMTP:pam@digicool.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:26 PM > To: 'Miller, John M.' > Subject: RE: [ZDP] Bending Structured Text to My Will > > Hi John, > > I had the same problem trying to get sample html code to show up in > structure text online. Also tried all (double ::, white spaces, > <code></code>). What worked for the difficult passages was to use > <pre></pre> around the text. The problem is the web browser is > rendering the "http: ..." not the structured text. > > > > > with the following segment: > > > > - Text encoded by double quotes followed by a colon, a URL, > > and concluded > > by punctuation plus white space, *or* just white space, is > > treated as a > > hyper link. For example: > > > > "Zope":http://www.zope.org/ is ... > > > > Is interpreted as '<a > > href="http://www.zope.org/">Zope</a> is ....'<br> > > Note: This works for relative as well as absolute URLs. > > > > No amount of cajoling on my part will get the > > "Zope":http://www.zope.org/ > > bit to appear as is. I've tried several permutations of > > surrounding the > > text with single quotes. I've even tried surrounding the text with > > <code></code>. All to no avail. Any suggestions, anyone. > > Pretty please? > > > > TIA, > > John > > > > Let me know if that helps. > > --Pam > Pamela Crosby > > Technical Writer mailto:pam@digicool.com > Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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RE: [Zope] accesing methods inside subfolders
by Perez, Victor 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

Thanks Michael but, It didn't work. I'm running zope 1 so I've created a method named "shnews" with the follow:      when i call it, I get the "system unavailable" error message with the following: Error type: Error value: shownews  "news" is a squishdot 1.5 folder.... ¿bug? - Atentamente, Victor Perez Muena IS&T Support - Port Area (Los Vilos) Los Pelambres Project - Bechtel Chile Ltda. Ext. 8033, Phone: (2) 361-8033 - Fax: (2) 361-8025 > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Pelletier [SMTP:michel@digicool.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 12:09 PM > To: Perez, Victor; 'zope' > Subject: RE: [Zope] accesing methods inside subfolders > > > >  > > Yes but this doesn't actually *call* the method. It just refers to it. > > <dtml-with news> > <dtml-var shownews> > </dtml-with> > > Is probably how i would solve your problem. > >

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PHP-Syntax
by Ulrich Steinkopf 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

I dont like the SSI-like syntax of Zope. Is there any possibility to use another Syntax, for instance PHP? tia Uli -- Ulrich Steinkopf ulrich.steinkopf(a)debis.com (03 41) 12 75 -3 57

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Re: [Zope] INSERT/UPDATE in SQL methods
by Phillip J. Eby 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

At 04:00 PM 8/16/99 -0700, Bradford Hull wrote: >> Try this... let's say your INSERT or UPDATE method is called 'do_update'... >> Your DTML would look like: >> >>  >> >> That's basically it. Use a #call tag and put double quotes around a >> function call to the ZSQL method, passing in as keyword parameters all the >> variables that it needs to do the update or insert. >> > This is probably the information I need right now, except that >there's severe ambiguity in it if I don't already know how to refer to the >args. That is to say, at the point in the routine where I have to do this >(which you didn't tell me I need to write, by the way, and neither did the >docs, but Martijn Faassen did) where I put this call, there are only 2 ways >I can think of to try to get the value for my parameter: ><dtml-call "add_resp(email=email)"> or ><dtml-call "add_resp(email=<dtml-var email>)"> > >The first fails when I run it, which seems reasonable as silly as it looks, >and the other gets a compile-time error when I try to store the edited script. >No other expression in 50-75 tries has actually stored a value in my >database yet, though many have run without throwing an exception or error. What error does it fail with? I must have missed your original question on this. Could you repost the methods in question? By the way, your first example is the 'correct' one (i.e., the one that 'should' work). You cannot nest DTML tags within themselves. Two more questions: does add_resp work if you use its 'Test' tab? Is 'email' the only variable referenced in the SQL, or are there others? > See how easy it is to be ambiguous, when you know the turf and your >reader does not? Thanks for the tips, and if you can clarify the point >above I'll thank you again, because now I'm so close I can smell database >update... It does work, believe me. Up until about this time last year, I had a pretty major app running under an older Zope that did everything through SQL methods: insert, update, delete, you name it. (I eventually had to move it off to a custom ZPublisher-based engine due to Zope's single-threaded, single-process nature at the time.)

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Re: [Zope] Q: KM|News, Squishdot or roll your own Zclasses (and future compatibility)
by Joshua Brauer 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

> > >NOw, there are a couple of promising alpha products out there > >(Squishdot and KM|News) that both do some of the things I want to. > > > >I'm afraid I'm not so adept at Python as to start combining them > >myself, so I have to choose either or for my task. The third > >possibility would do it all by DTML and roll my own Zclasses to > >represent different article classes (this *looks* straightforward > >enough). I just went through this (with www.mountainwest.org) My problem lay in wanting to do some different things with Dates and structures as well as using content (based on which categories it is in) on several sites. What I ended up with is a modified version of KM|News. The modifications are easy since it is a Zclass product. (For example I copied item_html to item_new_html so items would be redered as I liked. I ran into a few problems if an item lacked top_image so I added a top_image property to my table (leaving it blank) and all works well. So basically I have KM|News functionality with a site design and ease of change similar to Squishdot. As an aside: www.mountainwest.org is really a MountainWest subfolder of my main site setup. Zcatalog seems to have trouble with the multiple /MountainWest/MountainWest/MountainWest that occurs when one accesses www.mountainwest.org/manage. Zcatalog adds new entries for each the items with the repeating folder path on them. It then sees two items with the smae name/properties but different folders. Don't know if this is a bug per se or one of the side effects of this access setup. Joshua Brauer # # # _____________________________________________ Joshua Brauer Box 915 http://www.brauer.org Fort Collins, CO 80522 Fax: (419) 793-4120 _____________________________________________ In flying I have learned that carelessness and overconfidence are usually far more dangerous than deliberately accepted risks. -- Wilbur Wright in a letter to his father, September 1900 _____________________________________________________

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Re: [Zope] Giving up in frustration
by O.l.i.v.e.r T.h.u.n.s 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:52:23 -0700, Bradford Hull wrote: >This is unusual, I realize, but I'm going to tell you why I'm giving up on >Zope now. I'm doing it because I think this thing has awesome potential, >but if you try to make it popular with the current documentation it will >sink like a rock any time a user wants to see how to input or edit data. You're 100% right. Yesterday I installed Zope and read most of the documentation. The docs are really bad bad bad... :-( Only parts are covered and it's difficult to understand the Zope Zen. It's very frustrating for a Zope novice. oliver

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RE: [Zope] accesing methods inside subfolders
by Michel Pelletier 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Perez, Victor [mailto:vaperez@bechtel.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 11:48 AM > To: 'zope' > Subject: [Zope] accesing methods inside subfolders > > > How can I access a method inside a subfolder from a > method/document in its > parent folder? > > Actually I have a squishdot site on a "news" folder. There is > a shownews > method inside and I would like to call that method from my > main index_html > method. I tried everything and my closest approach was to get > the a dump of > its DTML code on the page using >  Yes but this doesn't actually *call* the method. It just refers to it. <dtml-with news> <dtml-var shownews> </dtml-with> Is probably how i would solve your problem. -Michel > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > - > Atentamente, > Victor Perez Muena > IS&T Support - Port Area (Los Vilos) > Los Pelambres Project - Bechtel Chile Ltda. > Ext. 8033, Phone: (2) 361-8033 - Fax: (2) 361-8025 > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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accesing methods inside subfolders
by Perez, Victor 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

How can I access a method inside a subfolder from a method/document in its parent folder? Actually I have a squishdot site on a "news" folder. There is a shownews method inside and I would like to call that method from my main index_html method. I tried everything and my closest approach was to get the a dump of its DTML code on the page using  Thanks in advance for your help. - Atentamente, Victor Perez Muena IS&T Support - Port Area (Los Vilos) Los Pelambres Project - Bechtel Chile Ltda. Ext. 8033, Phone: (2) 361-8033 - Fax: (2) 361-8025

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Re: [Zope] Greetings
by Martijn Faassen 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

CURTIS David wrote: > > Newbie Question: > > I am trying to learn Python and would like any input on books and tutorials to aid in learning. > Thanks in advance for any knowledge! Try: http://www.python.org for a lot of Python documentation. Also try the newsgroup comp.lang.python There's also a tutor mailing list called 'tutor(a)python.org'; I tried to find the web page with subscription for it on www.python.org recently but couldn't find it, but it's good for new python users. It should be somewhere.. :) Regards, Martijn

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Using ZPublisher.Client
by Tony Lownds 17 Aug '99

17 Aug '99

[If this is better suited to zope-dev then feel free to reply there and cc me] Hi, I am having some problems with ZPublisher.Client. I am using that module to make a bridge between e-mail and Zope (its practically done except for these problems and packaging it). 1. Problem I have stated in previous posts: I cannot send a list of attachments. In other words, ZPublisher.Client.call(url, att=[open(file1), open(file2)]) will not send the Right Stuff. I guess I would like to hear whether this is a bug in DC's opinion (its a pretty obscure situation), and if so would it probably be fixed by 2.0.0. Otherwise I will design around the problem. 2. Sending to Zope 2.0.0b4 server doesn't work at all. I can use ZPublisher.Client.call to send data correctly to a normal Python CGI script, including files, but when I tried the same to a Zope server, the client hangs. Actually the server also crashed one time. I am running it through ZServer not Apache. I can upload files through the browser just fine. Can anyone else duplicate this problem? Help me out, so you can use Zope to handle your e-mail! -Tony Lownds

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