September 2003 - Zope

FTP question...
by Alexander Alvarado 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

OK, now i can connect, I can see al folders, bu when I up load the files every looks normal, progran says that it did transfer all files correctly but when I look in to the folder in zope is empty????? What am i doing wrong now??? _________________________________________________________________ ¿Estás buscando un auto nuevo? http://www.yupimsn.com/autos/

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Just an FTP question !?
by Alexander Alvarado 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

I have started the FTP server on port 8021 and when I try to conect to it shows the following error: 500 not a WinSock, error(winsock #87). What does it means, what should I do? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.yupimsn.com/

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Temporary Folder Content - Session Data
by Edward Pollard 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Sometimes I feel really bad writing to the list for help. It's when I have very simple, very basic questions. I'm sure that the answer is somewhere, but I've not been able to find it. I'm having a thought that each of my Zope projects that uses sessions should use individual session containers. I had some problems when one of our student developers and I both shared the same variable names. Quite hilarious. However, it seems to be conventional wisdom to store session data containers in temporary folders, as the default session data container is. This of course goes away on a restart. Is there anyway to get them to stick, as the default session data container does? Thanks a ton Edward

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Zope Development as a beginner
by William Yeung 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Dear all, Recently I am seeking new opportunity for developing low cost web based solution on linux (I was classified as MS Man :P) in order to do lower end market. I was playing quite a bit different web development platform (ASP, ASP.NET + C#, and now Zope) and I found the following conclusion: Zope seems has a good concept but difficult to manage in terms of granularity of the project. I found myself get very much feeling on Zope is actually still very script based- which is quite similar to what ASP and PHP did! I can see some of the different advantages (e.g. the acquisition of objects) on the web publishing side- but when I am thinking about implementing an high cohesion based system such way of maintaining objects and methods seems give me very much hassle on trying to coordinate things together. I think I am comparing this with ASP.NET, which seems give a very good way to separate UI and logic layer, while still has very good cohesion on each function of a webpage as a frontend to use. Think about I have 20+ different controls on a same screen which requires pretty much back and forth database activities and session control in order to finish a transaction... seems Zope is not very good at this kind of development. However, even after the first sight I have to say I love python quite much- the language is convenient and clean, gives very good readability in terms of coding... so I really dream about if someone could come up with something more similar to ASP.NET instead of ZPT and DTML style... also to allow a more easy to develop platform (I really dont like to keep going back and forth on the ZMI to build up my projects, I want to do all things offline and then test things at once) ... is there something out already, or my thoughts is just so different with you guys that no one think its a good way to do web development? Hope I could find my way here... Thanks, William

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form-based authentication
by D. Rick Anderson 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Ok. I need to find a good replacement for GUF. We're up around 3000 users, and GUF is gagging pretty bad. I've been messing with exUserFolder, but untill there's better documentation on how to get it to authenticate from your own source, I'll have to look elsewhere (unless somebody out there knows of a good howto). I played with SimpleUserFolder, and it works, but doesn't have any method for form-based auth that I could figure out. I tried LoginManager, but every time I install it, my Zope server (2.6.2) crashes. I've burned almost 2 days on this and now they're putting some pressure on me to get this working. so ... is there: A) better documentation on one of the previously mentioned products so as to make it work correctly? B) some other product that can do this? I'm authenticating off of an Oracle Database with GUF, and I need that ability in whatever is used to replace it. TIA Rick

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Cookie/Authentication Problem
by Michael Havard 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

I'm having problems logging into a site and I'm not sure if it's a CMF problem, a ZOPE problem or a Plone problem. I installed Plone 1.05 and upon attempting to login it would tell me I had to have cookies enabled. I looked for help on their site but all the information said that the cookie problem was now fixed in both IE5/6. So I decided to try just a 2.7b ZOPE install and CMF 1.4. I log into the CMF site using the login page and it tells me I'm logged in but as soon as I go to any other page it tells me I have to login again. Should I go even further back to 2.6 and CMF 1.31 or is there some fix for this problem out there that I just haven't been able to find. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

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Cataloging/ignoring objects that generate errors on indexing
by Jean-Francois.Doyon＠CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hello, I'm trying to update my catalog, and much to my surprise, it ain't working ! Some objects require form parameters and so on, raise errors when none are provided. So now when I ask the catalog (In this case a CMF one, but the fact it's CMF shouldn't really matter, right?) to index everything it can find, it raises an error when it lands on such objects. Now this has never happened ot me before, and I'd always assumed that objects that raised errors while being index simply didn't get indexed, hence my suprise. I was actually counting on such doucments NOT getting indexed BECAUSE they raise errors. Admitedly, I'm doing something somewhat out of the ordinary. I have a CMF Document that actually renders/interprets TAL (Basically a CMF Document ZPT). SearchableText() runs a CookedBody that does the ZPT rendering ... Of course NOT using CookedBody at indexing might be an option, but I'm not sure of the consequences ... Some documents that have simple tal:replace/tal:content type instructions in them I DO want to have Cooked before indexing ... Anybody have any good ways or suggestions on how to get around this ? Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks, Jean-François Doyon Internet Service Development and Systems Support GeoAccess Division Canadian Center for Remote Sensing Natural Resources Canada http://atlas.gc.ca Phone: (613) 992-4902 Fax: (613) 947-2410

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RE: [Zope] ZODB conflict error AFTER adding an 'Access Rules'
by Jean Baltus 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

After patching the startup script, I obtain the following details in my errors: 2003-09-16T09:01:01 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ploneroot/resdir/share/ js/share.js: database conflict error (oid 0000000000000011, serial was 034fb0850 4d47222, now 034fb084adf5e580)(1 conflicts since startup at 2003-09-16T08:57:45) ------ 2003-09-16T09:01:02 PROBLEM(100) Localizer The thread number 1928 don't has a re quest object associated. ------ 2003-09-16T09:01:21 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ploneroot/linkTransparent .gif: database conflict error (oid 0000000000000012, serial was 034fb0855b17e4b3 , now 034fb08504d47222)(2 conflicts since startup at 2003-09-16T08:57:45) ------ 2003-09-16T09:01:24 PROBLEM(100) Localizer The thread number 1924 don't has a re quest object associated. I couldn't figure whether it's a read or write conflict,... Does that help? -- Jean

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Portal views strangeness
by Andreas Tille 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hello, I'm running a couple of Plone and ZMS sites on one of my boxes. Recently I faced the problem that I'm not able to view the normal "Contents" in the ZMI for *some* (not all) of these portals. If I try to view the portal in ZMI I just get the "View" view instead the normal overview of the folder as it is normal in ZMI. This is true for some Plone and some ZMI sites while other test sites show the normal behaviour. I also tested several browsers (Galeon, Mozilla, Konqueror, Opera, even w3m) and all show the same strange behaviour. Today I had explicitely to switch to http://wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de:9673/plone_site/portal_migration/manage_… to do the migration of this Plone site to a higher Plone version because I was not able to navigate through normal ZMI to this place. Any hints? Kind regards Andreas.

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AW: z2 startup exception, only with -D?
by Arenz, Ralph 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Stop,of course i forgot the -D option in the start-script ;-) -----Originalnachricht----- Von: Arenz, Ralph An: 'Chris Withers '; Arenz, Ralph Cc: '''Jamie Heilman' ' '; '''zope(a)zope.org' ' ' Gesendet: 26.09.2003 12:35 Betreff: AW: z2 startup exception, only with -D? 1)Traceback: ------------------ ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:03 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 10697 ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:08 INFO(0) ReplaceSupport Applied patch version 0.4.2. ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZRTChat.ZRTChat.ZRTChat: "manage_workspace" != "manage_properties" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZSSAttribute.ZSSAttr: "manage_main" != "manage" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZSSAttribute.ZSSAttr: "manage_main" != "manage_propertiesForm" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZSSAttribute.ZSSAttr: "manage_main" != "manage_workspace" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZSSRule.ZSSRule: "manage_main" != "manage" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZSSRule.ZSSRule: "manage_main" != "manage_workspace" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZStyleSheet.ZStyleSheet: "manage_main" != "manage" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:10 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of Products.ZStyleSheet.ZStyleSheet.ZStyleSheet: "manage_main" != "manage_workspace" ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:19 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '155240984_1064326409.346646' ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:19 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '155240984_1064326409.346646' at /temp_folder ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:19 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x06\x0f\x8f' Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 554, in setstate File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 590, in _set_ghost_state ImportError: No module named Splitter ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:19 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't install PythonScripts Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 629, in install_product (Object: Zope) (Info: PythonScripts) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/PythonScri pts/__init__.py, line 41, in initialize File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/App/ProductContext. py, line 335, in registerHelp File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/App/ProductContext. py, line 257, in registerHelpTopic File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.p y, line 272, in _setObject (Object: Help) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.p y, line 79, in manage_afterAdd (Object: PythonScript_edit.stx) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.p y, line 92, in index_object (Object: PythonScript_edit.stx) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Z Catalog.py, line 500, in catalog_object (Object: catalog) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/C atalog.py, line 377, in catalogObject File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/PluginInde xes/TextIndex/TextIndex.py, line 309, in index_object (Object: SearchableText) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 554, in setstate File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 590, in _set_ghost_state ImportError: No module named Splitter ------ 2003-09-26T12:33:19 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/z2.py, line 585, in ? (Object: ZLogger) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 46, in startup (Object: startup) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py , line 92, in startup File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 409, in initialize (Object: Zope) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 567, in install_products (Object: Zope) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 629, in install_product (Object: Zope) (Info: PythonScripts) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/PythonScri pts/__init__.py, line 41, in initialize File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/App/ProductContext. py, line 335, in registerHelp File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/App/ProductContext. py, line 257, in registerHelpTopic File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.p y, line 272, in _setObject (Object: Help) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.p y, line 79, in manage_afterAdd (Object: PythonScript_edit.stx) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/HelpSys/HelpTopic.p y, line 92, in index_object (Object: PythonScript_edit.stx) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/Z Catalog.py, line 500, in catalog_object (Object: catalog) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/C atalog.py, line 377, in catalogObject File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/Products/PluginInde xes/TextIndex/TextIndex.py, line 309, in index_object (Object: SearchableText) File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 554, in setstate File /usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 590, in _set_ghost_state ImportError: No module named Splitter 2)start-script: ----------------- #! /bin/sh . profile reldir=`dirname $0` export INSTANCE_HOME=`cd $reldir; pwd` exec $PYTHON \ $PYTHONHOME1/z2.py \ -X -t 10 -u zope -w 4711 -f 4712 -W 4713 -d 0.08.15.77 "$@" profile: ----------- export PYTHONHOME1=/usr/local/opt/Zope/server/Zope-2.6.2-src export PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python2.2.3 export PROFILE_PUBLISHR=$PYTHONHOME1/var/profile.log export LANG=german export ZOPE=/usr/local/opt/Zope export STUPID_LOG_FILE=/var/log/zope/stupid1.log export ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/OraHome1 3)In the data.fs there aren't any ZCatalogs-Instances in except for ZCatalog is subclass from e.g Squishdot and other parent-classes 4)Note that the error doesn't occur by initialize the Instance_Home products but the PYTHONHOME1 products. Ralph -----Originalnachricht----- Von: Chris Withers An: Arenz, Ralph Cc: ''Jamie Heilman' '; ''zope(a)zope.org' ' Gesendet: 26.09.2003 10:50 Betreff: Re: z2 startup exception, only with -D? Arenz, Ralph wrote: > My intension was to upgrade Zope-2.4.2 to Zope-2.6.2. That's quite a big leap, I'm not suprised there are problems... > I installed the Zope-2.6.2-src compiled it and started it without > Instance_Home. Anything was fine until i tried to to use 2.6.2 with > Instance_Home. I got the z2-startup-exception. Can you give the complete traceback again? > (Module Splitter not found) -> although it is there! What does your start script look like? > In mind that i was succesful in starting Zope in that Configuartion > i unpacked an backup of an earlier root.fs played around in the start-script > in Instance_Home. > Beginning with no args in the startline,successively i added my arguments > and looked for the startup behaviour. > Reaching "-D" lets the startup end in an "z2 Startup exception". Most odd... Does the Data.fs have any ZCatalogs in it? Chris

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