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Yes, Zope is the answer!
by lozinski＠openstepnews.com 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Now what is the question? Zope is an awesome application development tool. You don't even need to build most of your application, just assemble software components that arrive over the web for free faster than I can install them. Regards Chris 1-510-740-6486 lozinski(a)openstepnews.com lozinski(a)jobmart.com

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RE: [Zope] Warning: Download Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz (5979458 b ytes) with Windows XP
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

This is likely a bug with WinZip or your web browser. Your best bet is likely to download it and then rename it. P.S. Please do not post in HTML / with Images to this list. Sean -----Original Message----- From: sim [mailto:siming@videotron.ca] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:28 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] Warning: Download Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz (5979458 bytes) with Windows XP Hi Zope staff, I have this slight problem whenever I try to download Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz . Instead of being able to save the with the extension ".tgz" it saves it as ".gz" As I'm new to Linux I'm wondering if this is one of the reason I can't seem to follow McDonc's Installation tutorial (step 5). I took the liberty of saving a screenshot of the dl for you to see.

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Warning: Download Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz (5979458 bytes) with Windows XP
by sim 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Hi Zope staff, I have this slight problem whenever I try to download Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz <http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.5.1/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86.tgz> . Instead of being able to save the with the extension ".tgz" it saves it as ".gz" As I'm new to Linux I'm wondering if this is one of the reason I can't seem to follow McDonc's Installation tutorial (step 5). I took the liberty of saving a screenshot of the dl for you to see.

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RE: [Zope] Is Zope the answer?
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Yes - Zope is THE answer... ;) I don't usually speak in absolutes, but I know a good match when I see one. Take a look at the CMF and perhaps Plone (which is a nice UI on top of CMF). Both would be easily be a good starting framework for content-oriented sites (since you want to catalog events, news items, photos, ads). The CMF does membership, discussion, etc. You would need to do a bit of work to get email-list management appended to such a framework, but other than that there are a lot of people who have done at least a good portion of the things you mention using the CMF. Another nice benefit to Zope and the CMF is relational database integration for things like booking. For example, let's hypothetically say you had an event that had booking info related to it stored in the relational database. In the Plone UI, for example, in the skins tool you would simply add a page template and python script that used a ZSQL method to get a listing of bookings for that event object, then you would go into the "actions" for the event type in the Types tool and add the name of that method as an object, and it would automatically appear in the UI as a tab for the object. So you could then click on that tab to list your bookings stored in a relational database for the said content object. I guess what I am saying is that Zope really exemplifies the "best in class" in creating web applications with hybrid storage paradigms. http://cmf.zope.org http://www.plone.org I work for a large daily US newspaper, and we are porting most of our site infrastructure to the CMF (it's good stuff, I promise!). Plus, Python really gives you the ease of PHP with the scalability of Java. I would post this question to the Zope-CMF list or to the Plone-Users list (on sourceforge); I think you might get some good responses from people who have created components like portions of what you describe. Cheers, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Steve Purkiss [mailto:stephenpurkiss@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:44 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] Is Zope the answer? Hi, I've been asked to do some more development on a London night clubbing site I wrote a while ago - http://www.belugablues.com It was the first site I wrote in PHP (using Java before until I saw how much easier PHP was) and so the code is not the best. I might rewrite from scratch, but I'm also considering rewriting it using a framework or CMS as a base and was wondering if any of you good people could advise whether using Zope would be a "good thing" - and if not then any other recommendations welcome. I've been looking through all the ones on http://www.cmsinfo.org and am just getting more confused. I want to find a system I can work with on more than just this one project. I developed a site using PostNuke, but the design of this site is quite tight and wouldn't fit into PN very well - different world. Current Features of the site: * Event management systems so staff can add an event which users of the site can book free guest list places on - a guest list is automatically built so staff can print it off before the event. * General content management system for news, advertising, and page information * Membership system so people can sign up to the site * Email list function so staff can mail the whole list or subsections of the list (i.e.. depending on when their birthday is) * Photo Gallery Requested features: * HTML email (ya boo :) with direct links to book guest list places * Enable for multiple countries & cities * Remove initial login page so people don't have to sign up until they want to book something (as I suggested they did in the first place...) * Expand booking system to include hotels, cars, yachts & apartments. This won't be all online, but simply a form which requests start and end dates for booking the items then the rest is done manually. Hope the list doesn't mind me asking this - I've done as much research as I can without asking. Any advice would be most gratefully appreciated. I'm not afraid to learn new stuff, I just don't want to end up choosing the wrong system!!! Thanks _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Zope 2.6.0 Beta 2 Released
by Matthew T. Kromer 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

ZOPE 2.6.0 Beta 2 Released Zope 2.6.0 represents the first Zope release formed with a large number of community contributions. You may download Zope 2.6.0b2 from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.0b2/ Users of the Zope source release should note that Python 2.1.3 is now the required platform. Python 2.1.3 includes a fix to an issue that could cause crashes in Zope. Particular features of interest in Zope 2.6.0b2: * Gzip content compression when serving pages * ZCTextIndex plug-in index * Signal Handling and Log Rotation * Addition of a new default view setting ability * New profiling abilities * Improved daemon mode * Enhanced text indexing * Improved object cache control * Automatic browser ID string embedding in URLs * Automatic quoting of form variables implicitly retrieved from REQUEST but not REQUEST.form * Major improvments to BTree and Catalog code * i18n translation support for TAL * Bugfixes for Colletor issues 61, 72, 79, 117, 144, 151, 160, 178, 186, 196, 238, 271, 272, 292, 304, 358, 372, 402, 412, 421, 433, 437, 446, 448, 454, 458, 465, 478, 510, 512, 516, 517, 525, 528, 538, 539, 541, 547, 550, 573, 574, 580, 581, 583, 586, 603, 605, 612 * Linux binary build includes Python 2.1.3 with Large File Support enabled compiled against glibc-2.1.3 * Solaris binary build includes Python 2.1.3 with Large File Support enabled compiled against Solaris 8 For more information on what is new in this release, see the CHANGES.txt and HISTORY.txt files for the release: * http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.0b2/CHANGES.txt * http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.0b2/HISTORY.txt For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, please see: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html -- Matt Kromer Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/

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DTML tree with ZSQL methods
by Schmidt, Allen J. 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Seeing the other tree question made me think of something I have been curious about: how to build trees from ZSQL methods. I have a MySQL table of cars with car-common fields: YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, BODYTYPE, COLOR, etc. What I would like to do is have a tree showing the words as above like this: +YEAR +MAKE +MODEL ...etc Expanding the word YEAR would show a list of distinct years with maybe a count of cars for each year. Same concept for the others top levels. +2002 (57) +2001 (39) +2000 (43) ...etc Expanding the actual YEAR would show all MAKEs (and counts) for that YEAR. Same concept for the other criteria. How would the tree code look for doing something like this? And the ZSQL methods? Pointers or links to available material would be appreciated. Thanks Allen

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Session from RAM to FS
by Bo M. Maryniuck 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Hi. I would like to store a BIG files into a DB. Yes, I would like to do it via the session, because there are should be a pool of several files to upload. Well, all is fine except the Session is in the RAM. So when I allow users to store a lot of data in the RAM, server can go down. Is there some trick to store session data in the FS? I mean that session manager, which came with Zope 2.5.x out of the box? There was some link of some author somewhere in Zope.org (Chris McDonough?), but I've missed it and can't repair... -- Regards, Bogdan World domination. Fast. -- Linus Torvalds

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dtml tree quest (expanding individual items)
by AM 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Hi, I have a frames based page in which one frame is a dtml-tree representing a LocalFS, and the other frame shows the contents of the file on which a user has clicked on in the tree. Now in the contents frame the pages have internal links which are basically other pages somewhere in the tree. Now I can get the id (in the LocalFS) of the link on which a user clicks. Is it possible to expand the parent node(in case it has no children) of an object ,or itself (in case it has children) given the id of an object in a dtml-tree? TIA AM -- ================================================================== Aseem Mohanty Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231 ================================================================== "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped right there!!" -- Steve Gonedes ==================================================================

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source for publicly available CMF skins?
by Doug Hellmann 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Is there a source for pre-canned skins for CMF? Is there a galery out there along the lines of http://www.pixelmayhem.com? I'm not a web designer, and I'd like to see about making my site look a little nicer. Thanks, Doug

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Zope, CMF, WebDAV +Windows' Network Place and versioning.
by Knut Meidal 14 Oct '02

14 Oct '02

Greetings! I have been playing with Zope and CMF. Scavenged an old HP Workstation, a B132L with PA-RISC processor, little RAM and a small disk(2.1GB). Got Debian Linux installed, along with debs of Zope, Zope-CMF. (PostgreSQL too, in case I ever figure out how to move my data in there. Hints appreciated.) I now have a test-CMF site running. I have created a few folders and users, uploaded a few files, published and played around. I saw that Zope-CMF supported WebDAV. And I saw the light. My great vision was to create a Windows "Network Place" to read/write to Zope directly from Windows. This way, I envisioned, I could have people use familiar tools to save documents to a familiar environment. While at the same time, we could attach some metadata to the items, and use versioning between files, with full accounting on who edited what file, when, and possibly keeping track of several versions of the SAME FILE, in the SAME PLACE using the SAME Filename. It almost works. I can create "Network Places", save documents to the Zope folders. Only thing missing is the ability to have Zope versioning on files created in this manner. Can it be done? Anyone else tried this approach? Experiences? Good? Bad? Do's and DON'Ts? Tips, tricks? PostgreSQL pointers? KnutM

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