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RE: [Zope] New to zope
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

It should be said that some of the comments are insightful (at least worth a second read), especially when it comes to new features or API additions, etc... Sean -----Original Message----- From: Shad Young [mailto:foxwolfen@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:11 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope Thank you all, That has provided the basic help I needed :) I had tried the book before, but until Paul mentioned the talk back feature I did not notice the "com on/com off button" Now it is readable. *ROFL* *rolls up sleeves and pours himself a coffee*. "The Zope Book, Chapter 1: Introducing Zope This chapter explains what Zope is and who it's for. It describes in broad... " See you in a few days :) Cheers Shad _______________________________________________________________________ Have an article, story or essay you want to publish online? We need content. Ascendant: food for the thinking mind. http://www3.sympatico.ca/sberaud _______________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shad Young" <foxwolfen(a)hotmail.com> To: <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope > I am a bit jargon challenged when it come to Zope and Python. Could you > please clarify ZPT? I have not come across this term yet, or if I have it is > only in the long form. What I really need right now, more than a debate on > what works best, is, as I asked in my first email, some pointers to the FM > (Fine Manual) so I can R(ead) it. ;) > > What would be the series and order of how-tos (that work) I should read to > get myself up to speed without having to spend a year trying to plod through > all this on my own? Because, so far, the reading I have done on my own, and > the examples contained there-in, do not work. Some even have basic coding > errors like missing (') in the example snippets. *boggle* > > And how do I kill the services tab and registry leftovers from an uninstall > in windows XP? XP refuses to let the keys be deleted as they correspond to > the Windows service. This should have been removed during the uninstall. > > Thanks > Shad > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Have an article, story or essay you want to publish online? We need content. > Ascendant: food for the thinking mind. http://www3.sympatico.ca/sberaud > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Winkler" <pw_lists(a)slinkp.com> > To: <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Zope] New to zope > > > > On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 05:15:59PM +1000, Julian Melville wrote: > > > As far as I know (and I'm no authority) ZClasses aren't really the way > to do > > > things any more. Your best bet is probably ZPT's and Python scripts, > then > > > eventually should you need to, develop Python-based products. > > > > Well, zclasses vs. zpt & python script is comparing apples and oranges... > > like saying "don't use a car, use some wheels and engines." ;-) > > > > As for zclasses being "not the way", there's some disagreement about > > this. I don't use 'em myself (lately I've been building on > > EasyProduct when I want to a new class quickly); > > others have reported problems transitioning a zclass between zope > > versions; but Dieter Maurer, who knows as much of zope as anybody, > > says he's been doing it for years without problems. > > > > --PW > > > > Paul Winkler > > "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Generic e-mail processing form
by Chris Muldrow 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

We've got some legacy e-mail forms on some sites that used a single, generic Perl script to process form fields and basically feed the name of each form element with the values entered to an e-mail. We've set up a generic e-mail form processor, but the problem with it is that iterating through REQUEST.form elements sorts the elements alphabetically, rather than in the order in which the elements are listed in the form. Any ideas on how to pull the form variables in the order in which they're listed? Thanks! - Chris cmuldrow(a)fredericksburg.com

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Re: VirtualHostMonster
by Dag Nygren 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

> Dag Nygren wrote: > > Thanks for the long and thorough explanation. It seems to work now > > after I "resorted" to rewrite rules. For some reason I tried to avoid those > > and get by with only ProxyPass rules, but it seems like that is not possible. > > If your setup is relatively simple, you should be able to use ProxyPass. > For example, the following: > > RewriteRule ^/(.*) > http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.foo.com:80/subfoo/VirtualHos… > [P,L] > > ...could be replaced with: > > ProxyPass / > http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.foo.com:80/subfoo/VirtualHos… That is what I had, with the slight diff. that I needed a proxy rule that didn't start from root on my Apache ie: ProxyPass /mysub http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.foo.com:80/subf oo/VirtualHostRoot And this didn't work but for the first page, as all the references in Zope were relative to /. Never could figure out how to change that.... Thanks for the advice anyway, lot's of friendly and knowledgeable people here. Dag

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Redhat 8.0 and Zope
by Stephan Goeldi 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

With the release of RedHat 8.0, a lot of good things have changed, with the manner in which they have dropped old legacy versions of Python 1.x, Perl 3.x and other OLD script sets. In addition, mod_python is now (supposedly) working correctly as an integrated module for Apache 2+. Will it be difficult to get a working Zope/mod_python duo? Is it possible at all? -------------------------------------- Goeldi.com - Internet Services -------------------------------------- www.goeldi.com web(a)goeldi.com Tel +41-61-7330555 Fax +41-61-7330556 --------------------------------------

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New to zope
by Shad Young 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Howdy all, I am new to Zope and python. I have configured a zope server and created a rudimentary site as a learning tool (see my sig). I have three concerns atm. 1. I find navigating the docs on zope.org an exercise in frustration. Can somebody point me to the reference that outlines what each of the default installations permissions mean? Like a glossary of terms .. something like "access transient objects means blah" as well as general settings recommendations. 2. Many of the examples I find in the docs just don't work. For instance, adding a zclass. Following the directions yields results nothing like those described in the docs. Is this a version problem? Python problem? Platform problem (development on XP, [live site is on debian, but no exports from one to the other has occurred yet because I have as yet to get windows ver working right it seems]). Following the advice of a local Zope guru, I downgraded my activestate python 2.2 to a vanilla python 2.1.3, and moved the zopesite from Program Files to the %systemroot% using windows uninstall and then reinstalling. Now zope refuses to start as a service and it seems to want to compile its modules against the python installation instead of its own native python (windows zope binary install). I also have three dead zope instances in my services tab in windows that I desperately want to get rid of as they refuse to go away. Silly me forgot to do a restore point before installing zope so stepping back is not an option. How can I uninstall python and zope completely from my system as if it wasn't there? Then for a winXP Pro SP1 box what is the recommended versions for stable and useful zope self-instruction. As far as Zope itself goes, I am in love with it. It is a brilliant concept that I can not wait to deploy. Cheers Shad _______________________________________________________________________ Have an article, story or essay you want to publish online? We need content. Ascendant: food for the thinking mind. http://www3.sympatico.ca/sberaud _______________________________________________________________________

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Re: [Zope] VirtualHostMonster
by Dag Nygren 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 05:50:25PM +0300, Dag Nygren wrote: > > BTW. Is there any good documentation on VHM ? > > It took me a long time to figure out that VirtualHostBase is a literal and > > shouldn't be replaced with anything as I tried to do. > > Have still not figured out what VirtualHostRoot does ;-( > I've found the following page the most useful in this respect: > > http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/Zope_and_Apache Thanks, I needed that ! > > Scenario: > > - Apache as frontend with ProxyPass rules > > - ZServer should serve a certain address, say http://www.xx.com/zopeit > > from a certain sub"floder" in the Zope hierarchy. > Hope this helps, Thanks for the long and thorough explanation. It seems to work now after I "resorted" to rewrite rules. For some reason I tried to avoid those and get by with only ProxyPass rules, but it seems like that is not possible. Anyway, your advice was very much appreciated. BRGDS Dag Nygren

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Newbie problem
by Alexis Roda 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Hello all, I'm learning Zope and I have a problem. I have tried the following example from "Iterating over Folder Contents", Chapter 4 of the Zope Book: <dtml-var standard_html_header> <ul> <dtml-in expr="objectValues('File')"> <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a></li> </dtml-in> </ul> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> The folder where this DTML document resides contains some files and folders, but when I run it, it doesn't show anything. It seems like objectValues is an empty list. My understanding of zope is still very limited, but I think this should work. What am I missing? I have tested with zope 2.5.1 for windows and linux (debian woody) with the same result. Any help will be apreciated. Thanks in advance -- //// (@ @) ---------------------------oOO----(_)----OOo------------------------ Los pecados de los tres mundos desapareceran conmigo. Alexis Roda - Universitat Rovira i Virgili - Reus, Tarragona (Spain) --------------------------------------------------------------------

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08 Oct '02

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Mounted Storage / ZEO startup delay (30 seconds)
by Brad Clements 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

I'm using MountedStorage to share a common ZODB between multiple Zope instances. I'm using persistant client cache. yet every time I restart/startup my server, there's a 30 second delay incurred when accessing the storage. I'm wondering where this delay is coming from? Perhaps a reverse DNS timeout? I'm connecting on localhost, which is in /etc/hosts, so I don't think that's it. Ideas? 2002-10-08T15:23:50 INFO(0) ZEC cache opened. current = 0 ------ 2002-10-08T15:23:50 INFO(0) ClientStorage 8874 Connected to storage via <ManagedConnection ('127.0.0.1', 4400)> ------ 2002-10-08T15:24:20 INFO(0) ClientStorage 8874 registerDB(<ZODB.DB.DB instance at 0x832fc6c>, None) Brad Clements, bkc(a)murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements

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IIS, Zope and PCGI help
by Jeanney Chen 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Hi there, Does anyone have the experieence to set up the IIS and Zope running together following this instuction(http://www.zope.org/Members/brianh/iis_howto)? I am failed. Any help please! Thanks a lot Yan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

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