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Repost: sequence.sort: how can I sort strings?
by Danny Adair 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hi! (haven't figured it out yet, only workarounds...) How can I sort a sequence of STRINGS using sequence.sort? I don't know what to use as a "key"... (I tried self, str, value, '', _.None, ....... :-)) Or in other words: What's the attribute of a string that returns the string itself? thanks, Danny

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include link to each message in mailing list footer
by Tim Hicks 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

<mj cc'd because I think he's the list administrator /> Just wondering if it's possible to include a static web link for each message posted to this list (and the others for that matter). I'm envisaging something like http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/?msg=foobar12345 appearing at the bottom of this mail that takes me straight to this message in the archives. I don't know if it's possible with mailman/pipermail (I've never used them in any other capacity than as a consumer), but it would certainly make life easier. Finding and sending info snippets to people would be much quicker I think. Just an idea. tim

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[HELP] Re : Zope local roles and LDAP Groups
by Frdric Lemaitre 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hello Dieter, Thanks for your response. Yes, if you can package this patch, i would be interested to try it. Thanks in advance. Fred. zope(a)egroups.com a écrit: >I have an extension to your LDAPUserFolder which allows mapping from >LDAP groups to Zope roles. > >If you are interested, I can package the patch and send it to you. > > >Dieter

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Re: [Zope] w2k: start.bat: 'z2 startup exception'
by Florian Konnertz 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Lennart Regebro wrote: > Florian Konnertz wrote: >> Hi Zopies! I am confronted with a sudden prob at startup, when I >> doubleclick on the start.bat it produces an output in the DOS-window, >> but it closes down after a few milliseconds, so I couldn't read the msgs. >> I did in the DOS-mode: >> WEBSITEDIR\start.bat > test >> and so I can tell you now about the msgs, I hope you can help..! >> ------------- > ... >> File C:\Programme\website\lib\python\Shared\DC\xml\ppml.py, line 299 >> self.append(String(eval(self.r deine()[:-1], >> >> SyntaxError: invalid syntax > > Looks like the ppml.py file has become corrupt one way or another. > Try to replace it with the one that came with your version of Zope. You can > for example install the same version in another directory, and copy over the > py file to your old installation. ... Thanks a lot!! It's working again. But a funny thing happened: I just fixed the prob now here in early morning: - I switched on the monitor, checked my emails, read your advice and happily started to work.... - (You have to know that I have two PCs here, the one I mostly work at (Linux) and the older one (w2k), and the prob occured on the later one (w2k).) But I started to do the new installation here on Linux, where actually no prob was... ;-o But... it's ok, no worries about. I try the new installation, it might be better, it doesn't run under root, let's see... So let me say thanks again, have a nice day, Florian P.S: I replied additionally to the list to inform the others, that the prob is solved. Is this ok? Is it common practice?

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Audio visualisation problem
by sjoerd siebinga 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hi all. I am a newbie at python and zope. And this is what I want to do. I want to create an web-based audio transciber that displays wave-forms and spectograms using the snack toolkit ( http://www.speech.kth.se/snack ). At this moment I have most things working on my desktop using tkinter. A short sample script is included below. Is there any way to port such a script to zope? thanks in advance. sjoerd ======= #! /usr/bin/env python from Tkinter import * from tkSnack import * root = Tkinter.Tk() initializeSnack(root) s = Sound(load='ex1.wav') c = SnackCanvas(height=100, width=400) c.pack() c.create_waveform(0, 0, sound=s, width=400) Button(root, text='Exit', command=root.quit).pack() root.mainloop() ===========

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Ri:Z-SQL Method performance
by Stefano Vedovelli 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hello Rudi >My problem is the perfomance when executing a Z SQL Method >selecting a huge number of records, like 'select nr, name, ... from <table> >where ...'. dependend on the where-specification i have to deal with sets >about =~ 10000. when a ZSQL method is executed, the reult is fetched into a list object. If your query returns a great amount of records, the process of loading the list can take long. >my mysql-client tells me, that mysql by itself takes about .02 to .04 secs to >perform The MySQL client does not fetch all rows at once; rather, it retrieves the correct number of rows depending on your screen. >And: when i test a query in the Z SQL Method test-tab, i get 50 results per >page, with the same speed-delay. but when i click on the <next 50 ...> link, i >get instantly the next 50 records displayed. How is this perfomed and how can The fact that the next 50 elements are displayed so fast, is that because either Zope and MySQL perform a little caching. If you wait long enough, you will see that the display will take more. Let me advice you, however, that having a query that returns 10000 rows in a web application is bad practice or bad design. This is because you can potentially have thousands users requesting the same page, thus running the same query over and over on the database, potentially causing a loss of performance and can create a big swapping activity, especially if the record is big. It is true that sql servers cache and manage results, but this is still not a good excuse to allow a potentially high number of users to run such am heavy query. You should consider to break it up. And redesign properly. Do you like to flip through thousands of pages to reach the record you want? :) Hope this helps Stefano Message: 6 From: Rudi Wurm <net_seeker(a)web.de> To: zope(a)zope.org Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:15:42 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Z-SQL Method performance my situation: Zope 2.4.2 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86) ZMySQLda 2.0.8, MySQLdb Revision 1.11 My problem is the perfomance when executing a Z SQL Method selecting a huge number of records, like 'select nr, name, ... from <table> where ...'. dependend on the where-specification i have to deal with sets about =~ 10000. my mysql-client tells me, that mysql by itself takes about .02 to .04 secs to perform the query, when enterd by hand into the mysql-client. a small python-program using routines from the _mysql-module doesnt take much longer. But telling a dtml-method to use the Z-SQL-Method in an <dtml-in <name of z-sql-method>> statement, it takes about 4-5 seconds, and thats very long. Does one know how to speed it up or how to tune a z-sql-method, and whats the reason for the delay ? And: when i test a query in the Z SQL Method test-tab, i get 50 results per page, with the same speed-delay. but when i click on the <next 50 ...> link, i get instantly the next 50 records displayed. How is this perfomed and how can i achieve this in batch-processing via <dtml-in start=?? ...> ? The batch-approach i use looks like <dtml-in expr="sql-query(REQUEST)" size=10 start=query_start> <dtml-if sequence-start> <dtml-if previous-sequence> <a href="<dtml-var URL><dtml-var sequence-query>query_start=<dtml-var previous-sequence-start-number>"</a> </dtml-if> </dtml-if> (my display of data) <dtml-if sequence-end> <dtml-if next-sequence> <a href="<dtml-var URL><dtml-var sequence-query >query_start=<dtml-var next-sequence-start-number>"></a> </dtml-if> </dtml-if> </dtml-in> , its like the example from the zope-book, batch processing with in-tag, chapter 8. activating caching for the Z SQL method helps not, because when i use it it returns allways the old set of data although the variables specifying the where-clause have changed, when a new query is send. thanks in advance Rudi free people, free living, free software

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webdav: collection does not work when I use file type object as baseclass
by Robert Rottermann 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Hi there, I am creating a product that has a folderish and a file type aspect. I therefore use both ObjectManager and DTMLMethod as its base classes. When I do that, I can not use Webdav to access folders which contains instances of my product anymore. If I get rid of the DTMLMethod as base class things work fine again. Is such a combination of base classes sensible? If yes, what must I do to have webdav working? thanks for your help. Robert www.redcor.ch

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Zope 1, Lotus Notes 0, M$ .5
by Richard Gordon 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

Geek Summary: Thru some bizarre alignment of the planets, a large international client of mine has rejected a proposal to migrate it's web-based ISO documentation to Lotus Notes in favor of my Zope alternative even tho a month ago the only option in the running was Notes and none of the people who matter had ever heard of Zope. The current implementation consists of a large number of M$ Office documents being served via NT/IIS4 and maintained with a lot of Python. The forthcoming version will still be mostly Office documents (please don't point out the obvious- there are some good reasons for this) served by windoze2k/Apache, but augmented by Zope and MySQL for managerial and other purposes. But it gets stranger: This good fortune is largely attributable to Evil Bill and the passions that M$ arouses. It seems that at the corporate level, there was a tussle about whether a proposed enterprise resource portal would be based on Lotus Notes or on M$ SharePoint- this is still in the "great idea" stage and goes well beyond the scope of the ISO documentation intranet site. Since my scheme has most of the content remaining in the file system, I was able to tell them that it was obviously consistent with a SharePoint portal that could otherwise be ignored, while it was by no means clear that the Notes solution would allow for this because of some security constraints that never made much sense anyway. The Point: I am recounting this episode to give some encouragement to those many of you who daily fend off suggestions that whatever you are doing would be a lot better if you would just use some proprietary piece of crap in lieu of Zope. Occasionally, you don't have to sell Zope so much as make sure that the factions in favor of other approaches exhaust themselves fighting with one another, so you win by default (especially if you can claim to be M$ tolerant to boot). Given the context and history of this situation, it's also further proof that Chaos Theory is not just theory. So now I know that there will be ample Guinness on the table for many months to come and I have Zope, Python, and the wonders of corporate politics to thank for it. Richard Gordon -------------------- Gordon Design Web Design/Database Development http://www.richardgordon.net

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Re: Solaris threading, redux
by Anthony Baxter 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

>>> Anthony Baxter wrote > from http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24658.html > > One of the important changes in Solaris 9 is a > change in the threading library. Solaris 8 had an more on this can be found at: http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/threads/threads.html -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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Solaris threading, redux
by Anthony Baxter 03 Apr '02

03 Apr '02

from http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24658.html One of the important changes in Solaris 9 is a change in the threading library. Solaris 8 had an alternate threading library that Sun was allowing customers to play around with, and this is now the default threading library with Solaris 9. The replaced threading library will not affect application compatibility - Solaris 8 apps will run unchanged - but this change in threading schemes will allow nearly all applications to scale to larger processor counts than they currently can on Solaris 8 servers. (This is known as vertical scaling in the nomenclature of the server business.) no idea what this will do for Zope... -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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