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Opera 6 issues
by kosh＠aesaeion.com 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

I seem to be having a problem with opera 6 and textareas. I have some users that use opera 6 and when they edit a textarea sometimes the textarea gets truncated with the end of the being corrupted. Sometimes it also works correctly. I have not seen this issue with any other browser. I am going to try and setup some more debugging to figure out why opera seems to be doing it. I have not seen this behavior with opera 5 running under linux. Running with zope 2.4.3 with python 2.1 Designing and building web applications http://webme-eng.com

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unix security patch
by notices name 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi. I am trying to use the UNIX security patch by zigg last modified 2002/01/23. I am running zope 2.5.0 on Red Hat Linux 7.2, so I used Zope-2.5.0b3-unix-security.patch. I am new to both Unix and Zope. Nothing like a challenge, eh? Anyway, the patch utility ran without a hitch, and then I went back and changed the start script to add -u zope to start as my "zope" user. I get Cannot safely setuid without initgroups I ran the install script over again, and still get this error. In the instructions it says "you must run the build script" and refers to a c module. What build script? Won't the install script compile this module? I found something called initgroups.c and I believe I have a c compiler, because the command cc acts like it wants to compile something, but if I do cc initgroups.c, I get initgroups.c:28:20: Python.h No such file or directory and the initgroups.c looks a lot like python to me. But I don't know c. The only thing I know now is that I am over my head. Thanks for any help. Annie

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Zope help
by Rengasamy, Samy 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi Sven, Thanks for the help. I am going to finish the 5th chapter in the ZopeBook, downloaded from zope's doc site. I still have not found the info you have posted. Where did you acquire this info? I just want to make sure I am reading the right docs. Samy Rengasamy. Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:51:22 +0200 From: Sven Rudolph <sven(a)spaghetticode.de> To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] How to refer an object in a sub folder? Hello Samy. > How do I refer to 'index' in the folder 'java' from an object in 'tech'? > > <dtml-var java/index> ??? Try this: <dtml-var "java.index"> If you rename your file to "index_html" you can even do this: <dtml-var java> Please keep in mind, that you are dealing with objects in zope, _not_ files and folders. (Even if the management screens make you think this) If your browser looks for http://my.zopeserver.org/main/sub/sub1/anothersub/index_html this is similar to <dtml-var "main.sub.sub1.anothersub"> or <dtml-var "main.sub.sub1.anothersub.index_html"> Greetings Sven Rudolph

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structured text
by A M Thomas 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

I'm into the idea of letting my web development clients edit parts their own sites using structured text, but have a question about it for the experts out there. Sometimes a line wants to start with a number but not be an ordered list element, for example, in an address. Is there an easy way to make this work? I read all the documentation I could find, but didn't see a way around this. It's rather important to me. What I'm working on is allowing clients to enter their contact information to be displayed as part of the footer on each page. Addresses and phone numbers go in there, obviously. They'll want to control what appears on each line, etc., so structured text seems ideal. Any help for this? Many thanks, Am

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Zope.User.Group in Bielefeld / OWL / Nordrhein-Westfalen?
by Maik Jablonski 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

hi, in order to spread ZOPE around the world, we (2 zopers at the university of bielefeld) want to initiate a ZopeUserGroup in Bielefeld / Ostwestfalen-Lippe / Nordrhein-Westfalen (Germany)? are there any zopers out there who want to join? please contact me for further information. greetings, maik. -- maik jablonski visit www.zope.org, universitaet bielefeld LET'S GET ZOPED!!!! zentrum fuer lehrerbildung didaktik des sachunterrichts postfach 10 01 31 33501 bielefeld germany tel: + 49 (0) 521 106 4234 http://www.zfl.uni-bielefeld.de/ http://www.sachunterricht-online.de/

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ANNOUNCE: A Zope database adapter for dbtcp
by Julián Muñoz 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

A Zope database adapter for dbtcp. dbtcp is a system to access the odbc databases of a windows machine via tcp/ip (see http://www.fastflow.it/dbtcp/) For example, it COULD allow you to access a Windows .mdb database from a remote Linux Zope. So in the future it could substite the ZobcDA, and you coul move you zope to a Linux machine, were you will feel much more happy. (This is science fiction yet, see WARNING bellow). Requires the port of the dbtcp client api to python (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbtcp-python) WARNING: The DA is in a very early stage, it doesn't work yet with ZSQL Methods! The reason of doing this announce is that I have not the knowledges (or the documentation) about Zope to continue the developpment, everyone with more knowledges is invited to take the leadership of the developpment. dbtcp doesn't support transactions, so the DA doesn't support transactions ! So some R&D has to be done also for developping dbtcp :-) Here are the links: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbtcp-python/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zdbtcpda/ -- __o _ \<_ (_)/(_) Saludos de Julián EA4ACL -.- Foro Wireless Madrid http://opennetworks.rg3.net

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Re: [Zope] Opera 6 issues
by Gilles 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hello, I had this problem with IE?? + GET method + lot_of_text_in_the_textarea. If you submit big text in textarea, check that you use POST method. Gilles ----- Original Message ----- From: <kosh(a)aesaeion.com> To: <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: [Zope] Opera 6 issues > > > I seem to be having a problem with opera 6 and textareas. I have some > users that use opera 6 and when they edit a textarea sometimes the > textarea gets truncated with the end of the being corrupted. Sometimes it > also works correctly. I have not seen this issue with any other browser. I > am going to try and setup some more debugging to figure out why opera > seems to be doing it. I have not seen this behavior with opera 5 running > under linux. > > Running with zope 2.4.3 with python 2.1 > > Designing and building web applications http://webme-eng.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > >

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DTML Methods
by Reggie Farmer 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi, new to ZOPE. I installed zope on a windows machine (2000), a laptop. It doesn't allow me to add or add/edit DTML Methods. It just hangs in an idle state: cursor and hour glass. I installed the same download on another win 2k machine and it seems to work fine. Each had been installed as a win service. Does anyone have any ideas why this would happen or can you point me to a place to find that information? Thanks So long and thanks for all the fish. -Dolphins

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Re: [Zope] Use the source Luke -- what could be done to help documentation process? Request
by A M Thomas 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hello all, I'm also a newbie at Zope, but I've been interested in process management and workflow stuff for a while - although I'm not nominally working in those areas. Forgive me for my newness and ignorance, but I do like Zope a lot (I just set up an iMeme account this weekend) and I would very much like to see the documentation get better. For all I know, most of the suggestions below are already in the works, but I send them anyway in case they might be helpful. My main ideas, which I humbly submit for debate, rejection, or expansion, are: 1) Before going much further, you might want to document a good taxonomy for breaking down Zope topics. I have the Zope Book, and the table of contents is a good start, but I bet the community could break it down better and flesh it out more. I think I'm still too new to propose a good breakdown myself (although my content management product is coming along fairly well), but as I said, the table of contents of the Zope book is a good place to start. As a newbie, I'd have loved to go to the documentation page (or a page one level below it), and seen a map of topics. One note - why can't I find a table of contents for the Zope book on the site? Obviously the howto's would be organized under this scheme, and it's unavoidable that such a scheme would be created. But I'm suggesting that the taxonomy be created first, with the goal of organizing the information that should eventually all be present in a way that will make sense to a relative newbie, rather than organizing existing documents into groups and proceeding from that standpoint. 2) Volunteers could be matched with the particular area of the taxonomy that interested them, and they could be in charge of that section of the documentation. My further thoughts here are influenced by the Open Directory Project (dmoz.org) When new documentation content is created, the creator could suggest the area (or areas) that should house that content; it could even appear immediately in that area, but the doc. editor for that area would review it, make sure it fit, possibly suggest that it go into another area (instead or in addition). With existing documentation or how-to's, these volunteers could be in charge of finding any documentation that fit their area and adding it. This could break a huge job into 10 or more pieces instead of having it all fall onto three or four people. Of course some kind of standards document would need to be written. 2) Probably a particular piece of documentation (how-to) should be allowed to be in more than one part of the taxonomy, but perhaps should have just one "primary" area in the taxonomy. This is so that doggedly systematic people who want to know *everything* can just read all the documentation from start to finish without worrying about duplicating their efforts - a view of the information could just put everything under its primary area, with links to sections for which an area is "secondary" 3) Each piece of documentation, or how-to, should have the following information: date created, date last edited, versions of Zope for which it is known to be correct, versions for which it is known to be incorrect, author, primary topic, other topics (I just started using the word topic for taxonomy sections, or "areas" - I think topic works best). The Zope version information is important, I think - I keep running into stuff that I'm not sure is still correct or relevant. 4) I'm a Perl programmer - not a super great one, but quite adequate. I know you guys have looked at CPAN and there's talk about organizing products, and I've touched that before. I will say that in addition to a rating and review system (like tucows or the CGI resource index has), I wonder if a Zope-version-for-which-it's-known-to-work field would be useful here, too. But my main reason in bringing up Perl is to mention my second most valuable reference book: The Perl Cookbook. Oh, it's great. It would be so wonderful to have a well-organized collection of short Zope "recipes" to draw from. Short is important - each recipe shows one main aspect of the language or one technique, and strips away unnecessary code, so a reader can grasp very quickly the essential thing they need to know. This is significantly different from a complete example product or application. The intended audience is not really a complete newbie anymore - it's someone with a basic grasp of the technology, but who doesn't know that "aq_parent" is the thing they want, or how to sort things in a <dtml-in> list, or how to render text as structured text. They're not even sure what to call what they want to do, so again, a good organizational scheme (taxonomy is my word of the month, I guess) is crucial, because if you can't find the information, it might as well not be there. But so many questions and problems I've run into, I knew others had run into before me - like the questions I'll probably ask about folder organization or updating properties. Yes, the mailing list archives have a lot of great stuff in them, but it's hard to find in there - again, if a volunteer were assigned to each topic in the "cookbook" (better word for cookbook, anyone?), that person could watch the mailing list for pertinent postings, maybe massage them appropriately before adding them to the cookbook, or ask the author to submit the tidbit to the cookbook in some agreed format with some set of agreed-upon assumptions. -- About searching: Searching is great, but it is not a perfect solution. How do I know that my problem with object references will be under "self"? If I search for "parent", how many hits will I get, and how do I know if my problem has anything to do with that word - I'm a newbie. With a good hierarchical organization, I can be sure I've looked in all the right places. I don't mean to be critical - what I've found has been great - but I have found overreliance on search as a means of "getting to" information to be somewhat frustrating. "Tables of contents" are still very relevant. OK, thanks for listening. Feel free to tell me how wrong I am... - Am

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DTML editing
by Igor Leturia 02 Apr '02

02 Apr '02

Hi all! Is there a Zope product for editing DTML methods that has syntax color highlighting? If not, are there any other standalone editors that have this feature (for windows)? Thanks in advance, Igor Leturia

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