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by Please Read IT Carefully! 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

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RE: [Zope] Caching... (and squid question added....)
by Schmidt, Allen J. 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

On your Linux boxes running Zope and Squid, do you have any issues with users accessing your site with AOL dialup and the AOL browser? This question goes out to anyone who cares to answer, also... We are moving to a Zope on Linux with Squid setup within the week. Currently on Windows 2000 and Zope 2.4 with a Windows version of Squid. The site moves very fast in general but now AOL users are complaining of 5+ minutes load times if it loads at all. Has anyone come across this? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Mario Valente [mailto:mvalente@ruido-visual.pt] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:42 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Caching... At 21:06 20-11-2001 +0000, Chris Withers wrote: >Chris McDonough wrote: >> >> Usually, if you don't cache or serve only static content, you can't >> running a high-volume site using Zope or mod_perl or ASP or >> whatever-else; it's as simple as that. > >What about something like Google? How do they get around it? > >I'm sure caching isn't the only option... > This discussion is so pointless... FYI Google has upwards of 10.000 (thats TEN THOUSAND) linux machines serving as frontends for their service. And although Google's pages are dynamic, they're basically the same script run over and over again with little or no images. So caching is not the only option; its just that I'm sure you dont have Google's budget. What you're trying to do is asking Zope to DYNAMICALLY generate Squishdot pages (probably full of database accesses and images). But you're doing this on a PC (no hardware specs were specified) running Windows (!) and on a DSL line. If you try to do something similar with ANY OTHER platform (lets say Apache+PHP+PHPNuke; or IIS+ASP+some forum software or other) you're also going to get into the same kind of problems. If you compound this with the fact that you're also clueless (e.g running Zope without knowing what -S is for; or, for that matter, running any software without knowing what you're doing), you're in for a lot of trouble. Please, dont answer "I'm a writer, not a programmer". THAT is precisely your problem. You want to be able to build rockets without taking a course in rocket science. Dont misunderstand me; you can still fire rockets or build amateur rockets; just dont try to reach the moon. Here are some tips: - enable caching on Zope - change from Windows to Linux - install more RAM on your PC - get more CPU for your PC - put Squid in front of your Zope - fine tune your Zope to use only the necessary command line switches - pack your Zope database frequently - stop all the other software that you might have running (i.e. dedicated server) - create static versions of the most accessed page(s) - you might have a memory leak somewhere; plug it We're running a consumer portal with about 1 million hits per day using 2 frontends (regular PC machines) connected to 1 backend (server PC). C U! -- Mario Valente _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Mega memory leak?
by Ron Bickers 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Why do I get the feeling there's a big honkin' memory leak somewhere? Any ideas? Data.fs is 65.3MB Zope is using 295MB RAM Zope version: (Zope 2.4.2 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.0, linux2) Python version: 2.1 (#1, May 16 2001, 13:53:30) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)] System Platform: linux2 Process ID: 15705 (4101) Running for: 11 days 14 hours 36 min 5 sec Top Refcounts: Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper: 35920 Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.PathExpr: 26938 AccessControl.SecurityManager.SecurityManager: 12693 ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.HTTPRequest: 11986 Products.PageTemplates.TALES.SafeMapping: 8978 exceptions.KeyError: 8942 Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Undefined: 8576 Products.PageTemplates.PythonExpr.ExprTypeProxy: 8566 exceptions.AttributeError: 8209 Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr.PythonExpr: 5412 AccessControl.DTML.TemplateDict: 4686 Products.PageTemplates.TALES.TALESError: 4506 TAL.TALInterpreter.TALInterpreter: 4492 Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Context: 4490 ZPublisher.BaseRequest.RequestContainer: 4116 AccessControl.SecurityManagement.SecurityContext: 4116 ZServer.FCGIServer.FCGIResponse: 4115 ZServer.FCGIServer.FCGIPipe: 4115 ZPublisher.BaseResponse.BaseResponse: 4114 OFS.DTMLMethod.DTMLMethod: 3945 Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.StringExpr: 2136 OFS.Application.Application: 1264 ZODB.POSException.ConflictError: 732 DocumentTemplate.DT_Util.Eval: 559 OFS.Folder.Folder: 415 ExtensionClass: 382 Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate.ZopePageTemplate: 359 _______________________ Ron Bickers Logic Etc, Inc.

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Telling Users to Wait
by Edmund Goppelt 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

How do I warn my users that a given Zope page will take a long time to load? Is there any way to load a preliminary "please wait this may take a while" page while the user waits for the real page to load? -- Ed Goppelt

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Re: Welcome to the "Zope" mailing list
by Shawn L. 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

I just had a quick question about zope or two... First one being, I know that everything is web enabled, but is there anyway (currently made or not) to let people use "fake" tags and parse them later to do something? i.e. We have a bunch of rather... non-web-people where I am and they currently have something in perl where they can do things like put asterisks around a word to make it bold and things such as that. Is there any equivalent in zope? Thanks, Shawn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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RE: [Zope] editors
by Doyon, Jean-Francois 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Hello, On this topic, I have a question also ... Are there editors that allow the editing of properties on objects? Is there such a way to do this with DreamWeaver? Uploading files is nice, but without being able to set properties, a lot of the power of Zope is lost! Isn't this supposed to be doable over WebDAV? Thanks, J.F. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Winkler [mailto:slinkp23@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:13 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] editors On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:52:44PM -0500, Jacob Singh wrote: > What do people use for editors? I am so sick of editing through the > browser, it is hell. But I don't know where else to turn because the > browser interface provides such great debugging. I use emacs with ange-ftp. This is great when I'm developing Products because I can have product modules and Zope objects open at the same time in the same editor. But then, emacs is not just an editor, it's a bit of a kookoo religion. Not for everybody I guess. -- paul winkler home: http://www.slinkp.com music: http://www.reacharms.com calendars: http://www.calendargalaxy.com _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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RE: [Zope] Newbie Question : Problems with Automatic Cataloging o f ZClasses
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Make sure that you set up the indexes and metadata entries in the Catalog for the method and/or property names you would like indexed, or cached in metadata columns, respectively; then, make sure your ZClass was first inheriting from CatalogAware. Also, make sure you are reindexing the object upon object construction, and edit as well... That should be it... If this works, you should be able to access instance objects' entries in the catalog with your query form via <dtml-in Catalog>, and you can use the metadata column name in <dtml-var> inside the dtml-in for your search summary content, or (slower) use Catalog.getObject() to get the referenced object directly (i.e. <dtml-var "Catalog.getObject().id">)... good luck... Sean -----Original Message----- From: Orietta Barbari [mailto:obarbari@ehive.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 7:52 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] Newbie Question : Problems with Automatic Cataloging of ZClasses I wonder if someone could help me. I have been trying to create zclasses whose objects get automatically catalogued. I have followed the tutorial in the Zope Book (Chapter 9 - 'Automatic Cataloging' section) and it all seems to work correctly. When I go and view the entries in the catalog however, only the date gets registered in the index, and date and absolute_url gets registered as metatypes - no other properties appear to be registered. I have tried other tutorials and HowTos but cannot seem to find an effective way of updating a catalogue with all the objects properties. Could someone give me a clue _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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REPOST: editors
by Jacob Singh 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

I'm sorry I post in HTML sometimes, It's bloody outlook, the bat stopped working and I've been stuck on outlook, great program if it wasn't for the security and the proprietary crap. And that you can't set the default Text style to plain! Message: What do people use for editors? I am so sick of editing through the browser, it is hell. But I don't know where else to turn because the browser interface provides such great debugging.

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Newbie Question: Returning random images for use in <img src=''> links on other server
by Ben Chapman 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Everyone: Please excuse this if it is a FAQ; I've looked and I've got the book, but I'm am just not getting this. Our main web server (I can't change this) is an IIS box. I want to generate links to random images stored within zope. What I want to do (on the IIS box) is: <img src=http://myzopeserver/content/showimg> where showimg does something like this on myszopeserver: [BEGIN BROKEN CODE] <dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('Content-Type', 'image/jpeg')"> <dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(files.objectValues())>" [END BROKEN CODE] In other words, I want the "raw" image data stored in one of the random files located in the files folder to be returned. This does not work; it seems I need the read() method of the file object, but I don't know how to integrate that with the construct above. Any help would be most appreciated. Sorry for the very basic question. We're running Zope 2.1.6 and Python 1.5.2 Ben Chapman Director, Computing Resources, University of Tulsa College of Law bchapman(a)utulsa.edu

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Newbie Question : Problems with Automatic Cataloging of ZClasses
by Orietta Barbari 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

I wonder if someone could help me. I have been trying to create zclasses whose objects get automatically catalogued. I have followed the tutorial in the Zope Book (Chapter 9 - 'Automatic Cataloging' section) and it all seems to work correctly. When I go and view the entries in the catalog however, only the date gets registered in the index, and date and absolute_url gets registered as metatypes - no other properties appear to be registered. I have tried other tutorials and HowTos but cannot seem to find an effective way of updating a catalogue with all the objects properties. Could someone give me a clue

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