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BerkeleyDB slow
by matt 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi, I am finding that writes to the ZODB are far slower when the storage is BerkeleyDB instead of Data.fs. I should also mention that I run this through ZEO, if that has anything to do with it. I now have quite a few folders, some with up to 1000 objects in them. I know ZEO is not very write friendly, but if I switch the Storage back to main .. i.e. Data.fs(Still as a zeo client), and import data into it, then I find it is 5-10 times faster when doing something as simple as editing small dtml method. My current system is the following : Zope Version (Zope 2.4.0 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.0, freebsd4) Python Version 2.1 (#1, Jul 18 2001, 17:06:28) [GCC 2.95.3 [FreeBSD] 20010315 (release)] System Platform freebsd4 I was wondering if this behaviour was common. regards Matt

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RE: BOA Constructor, CST, and setDefaultAccess
by Jean Lagarde 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Sorry, should have read my notes better before I sent the email... SessionIdManager also uses setDefaultAccess('deny'), and I had to comment that line out as well. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean Lagarde [mailto:jean.lagarde@eer-rc.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 07:59 > To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: BOA Constructor, CST, and setDefaultAccess > > > Hi all, > > I was trying to play around with BOA Constructor, but > couldn't get into some Zope folders (BOA was throwing cryptic > errors at me). I found out that the problem was with the > latest version of core session tracking, which uses > "setDefaultAccess('deny')" in both sessionData and > sessionDataContainer. My quick fix was to comment these lines > out, which I assume is not the best solution, but it got me > going at least. > > CST is the only product I have that uses setDefaultAccess(). > > Anyway, just in case someone is interested to know (Chris?) > > Cheers, > > Jean >

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BOA Constructor, CST, and setDefaultAccess
by Jean Lagarde 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi all, I was trying to play around with BOA Constructor, but couldn't get into some Zope folders (BOA was throwing cryptic errors at me). I found out that the problem was with the latest version of core session tracking, which uses "setDefaultAccess('deny')" in both sessionData and sessionDataContainer. My quick fix was to comment these lines out, which I assume is not the best solution, but it got me going at least. CST is the only product I have that uses setDefaultAccess(). Anyway, just in case someone is interested to know (Chris?) Cheers, Jean

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How to do a mouse over in Zope
by Gordon Holtslander 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

I'm trying to get a mouse over to work and all I get is the text. This is what I'm trying to make work: <a href="feedback.html" onMouseOver="document.the_image.src=<dtml-var "images['feedback_dn.gif']">;" onMouseOut="document.the_image.src=<dtml-var "images['feedback_up.gif']">;"> <img src=<dtml-var "images['feedback_up.gif']"> name="the_image" border="0"></a> What am I doing wrong? Talk to you soon, Gord

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(no subject)
by skalivur＠netscape.net 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

hello. I´m a new Zope user and I have a problem whit the external methods. I´m reading Zope Book (Chapter 8:"ScriptingZope.html") and I can´t add that the external method "makeThumbnail", proposed there. It looks like zope doesn´t recognize the variable "self". Any suggestion? Thanks __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Zope on CD ROM
by Laleh Baschardust 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi, I am producing a manual on CD ROM with ZOPE, like I found in the HOW TO "Running Zope off CD ROM" from Jens, 2001/07/13. It helped me a lot. Autoran starts the browser (with a first information page) and the ZServer starts in read-Modus at the same time. Afterwards the pages can be loaded. Unfortunately now I have some problems: 1. The ZServer needs a long time (nearly 3 minutes) for the start-up 2. The dos-window opens 3. The ZServer in read-Modus writes the Logs in cmd Maybe you can help me to answer my questions: to point 1: How can I shorten the loading time at the beginning? to point 2: Can I run the ZServer in the background, like a service from WindowsNT? to point 3: How can I manipulate ZOPE so it will not write Logs in cmd? Are you interested why I decided to use ZOPE? I decided to go this way because: · The manual has a complex tree structure including often 5 levels. · I had to include a glossary database · I use the ZCatalogue to search the manual · I wanted to separate text and layout Thanks a lot for your help best wishes Laleh ----- Laleh Baschardust EAN.UCC - The Global Language of Business _____________________________________ Centrale fuer Coorganisation GmbH Maarweg 133 . D-50825 Koeln . Germany Tel.: +49-221-9 47 14-0 - Direct -137 Fax.: +49-221-9 47 14-195 e-Mail: Baschardust(a)ccg.de http://www.ccg.de _____________________________________ Member of EAN International

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Re: [Zope] SkinScript: manage_FTPput / manage_FTPget
by Anthony Baxter 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

>>> "Jean Jordaan" wrote > Here's the patch, against ZPatterns-0-4-3p2: > > [jean@blommie SkinScript]$ diff Methods.py > /home/httpd/zope/Products/ZPatterns/SkinScript/Methods.py > 121a122,125 > > def manage_FTPget(self): [snip] You should probably get in the habit of using 'diff -c' or 'diff -u' - they're a far more reliable and readable form of diffs. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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I think I'm a complete burke - Basic permissions and CGI
by Bruce Dykes 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Okay, I'm missing something. In all the discussions of Permissions, roles, ownership, and security policies, the focus appears to be on multi-user systems, while I'm having problems implementing some basic anonymous CGI. I want any user to just paste some data into a textarea on a form. This form then launches a python script that extracts the relevant data from the pasted info, and stick it in an array. This array will then be used as the source for a SQL query, whose results will be used as the source for a ProComm script file. But before all that, I need to know just what the basic permissions and roles should look like for this fairly basic and standard CGI process. This doesn't appear to be rocket science, so where am I not looking? I've been reviewing The Zope Book, and the Web App Construction Kit, but they seem to focus on multiple users, which, while useful, seems to be much more than what I'm looking to do...can somebody point me at the right how-to or FAQ please? Thanks, bkd

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Photo product: how to recreate thumbnails with Imagemagick
by Timothy Wilson 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Hi all, I'm using Ron's great Photo on my site. Until recently I was unable to use Imagemagick and had to use PIL to render the different images. I've got Imagemagick working now and the difference is dramatic! The PIL-rendered versions aren't even close to the Imagemagick-rendered ones. Now the question, can I force Zope to create new version of these thumbnails using Imagemagick without recreating all of them from scratch? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.com W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com

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RE: [Zope] zope operations atomic?
by Clark OBrien 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Chris, Thanks for the explanation. I don't see how ApplicationLevelConflictResolution can handle the dirty read problem though. -----Original Message----- From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@zope.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:11 PM To: Clark OBrien; k_vertigo(a)yahoo.com; zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] zope operations atomic? > Example: > To count the number of files uploaded to my site I set an > index as an attribute to a Folder. These are large files so they > take some time to upload. What happens after two people upload at once > does my index only get rolled back or do the files uploaded also > get rolled back? If the uploads finish at the same time (meaning the transactions will likely commit at the same time), a ConflictError is raised, and one of the requests is retried. (Note that the file needn't be uploaded from the remote browser again; Zope keeps the request around -- which includes the cgi data, which includes your file's data -- to retry with.) The uploader never notices any of this, except perhaps the site will become sluggish. None of this has anything to do with the counter in your example, except that a ConflictError is more likely to be raised when changing "hotspot" items like a counter. The example you provide of a counter is one that is problematic for ZODB for two reasons: 1. Multiple simultaneous commits which include counter incrementing can cause conflicts 2. The undoability of FileStorage causes the Data.fs file to grow on every successful transaction. These problems are orthogonal to each other; they are not related to each other in any way except that they both occur in the default Zope configuration. The first is solved via application level conflict resolution (http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZODB/ApplicationLevelConflictResoluti on) as well as a storage which supports it, the second is solved by using a nonundoing storage. So in the example you gave, you're most worried about problem #1, conflicts. To solve this particular problem, you would implement a "smart" counter that did not make itself a hotspot. There is actually already one of these that ships with Zope. It's in the BTrees.Length module, and it's a counter that does app-level conflict resolution. It's also a good module to take a look at if you're interested in seeing how conflict resolution works. Note that none of this is terribly different AFAICT than how most relational databases implement multithreadedness save for the fact that ZODB uses optimistic concurrency instead of pessimistic, allowing the app developer to be able to handle conflict scenarios in order to maximize performance. HTH, - C

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