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Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation
by Alan Shutko 24 May '00

24 May '00

Maik Roeder <roeder(a)berg.net> writes: > Do think that the basic idea of offering different portals for > different communities (Beginners, Developers and so on) is a bad > idea ? What do you think about the organisation in Subjects/Topics ? Well, as a brand-spanking new user (or user wannabe, if I can get the tutorial to run), I think that offering portals at all is a bad thing. I want information, not hoops to jump through to get information. Part of this is that I don't really like portals much in general, but a large part of it is that when I have problems, I go looking for information to solve those problems, and I don't want to have to guess where something would be filed (kind of hard when you don't know much). The current portal segments information based on what kind of "user" you are, but in reality, my problems involve information which might be found in many places, and I have to dig through all of them to find out where. It might be better if all information were contained in all portals, but organized differently. Right now, as a "new user & developer" I have a portal that's empty... not even a link to the faq! That's a big help! > This is a job that only DC can do right now. The ZDP has "only" got > the aim to point to existing stuff. Restructuring the existing docs > is not our job. Well, why is it called the Zope Documentation Project, if it's not supposed to provide documentation? Oh, wait... it's not, I guess. I hadn't looked at the title on http://zdp.zope.org before, but the link at http://www.zope.org/Documentation says it's project (and a source of documentation). > What documentation do you mean ? Well, there's the Zope Book project which requires lots of clicking (and it took me a little while to figure out that there was actually content on the sub-sections, because the interface changed on me). Personally, I haven't gotten any further, because I just started. -- Alan Shutko <ats(a)acm.org> - In a variety of flavors! 170 days, 17 hours, 37 minutes, 27 seconds till we run away. Your mind understands what you have been taught; your heart, what is true.

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RE: [Zope] Reloading products
by Seb Bacon 24 May '00

24 May '00

Shane pointed me to the Refresh product, but I'm still baffled. The same problem that's stopping me from updating my product is stopping the Refresh product from doing its thing on my product (even though it appears in the product folder itself). I can completely add or remove my own products from the Products directory and they have no effect whatsoever on the ZODB. Am I missing something? Here's what I'm doing to create a product (following source for various things including the Boring product): 1) create folder Products/AlbumImage 2) add __init__.py 3) in __init__.py, import AlbumImage, initialise(context) stuff 4) create AlbumImage/AlbumImage.py 5) do stuff that is good in AlbumImage.py Now, as far as I can tell, this should be sufficient to make my product appear in the products folder. Why does it refuse to disappear or change? Is it stuck somewhere in the ZODB? Eeeeek I'm confused. Seb. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com] > Sent: 24 May 2000 21:03 > To: Seb Bacon > Cc: Zope Users > Subject: Re: [Zope] Reloading products > > > Seb Bacon wrote: > >(n.b. is > > there any way of reloading a product without the tedium of > stopping and > > starting zope?) > > There is a very-alpha product for doing this floating around on the > zope-dev list. check the archives... > > Chris >

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RE: [Zope] 2.1.4 to 2.1.6 nightmare
by Brian Lloyd 24 May '00

24 May '00

> > Finally it works. Thanks. > > > > Do you know why DigitalCreations haven't release a patch? > > Dunno :S > > > I guess i'm not the first one getting mad with 2.1.6. > > Had us fooled for about a week :( > > I think it's all fixed in 2.2 anyway, which may be why no patch was > released... That's basically right - it boils down to that releasing a patch for every bug/feature just doesn't scale. We have made some internal adjustments to allow our release schedule to be much more flexible and frequent than it was, which should address this. Of course, if having every latest bug fix is of burning importance to you, you can run from the public CVS - though you are also, of course, going to get every latest bug as well :^) Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Re: Zwiki
by Simon Michael 24 May '00

24 May '00

"Pierre R." <pierrer(a)aracnet.com> writes: > I am using Navigator product and the ZWiki in Zope. I have been trying > to include the Navigator Header in the Zwiki Header so that you can > browse through Zwiki Pages and have the Navigator top and side Bar > around the Zwiki page. If I just include the standard_html_header in the > > zwiki_header it works OK but not when invoking editing or backlink. > Do you have any idea it could be done. I tried to look at the Python > code > but I am new to Python. Hello Pierre, sorry, I haven't tried Navigator and don't know the answer at this moment. Perhaps someone in the community has done this ? I am forwarding to the zope list. Regards -Simon

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(newbie) manage_options?
by Adam Clark 24 May '00

24 May '00

I'm making a new product derived from Poll, and I want it to have the standard 'Contents' tab where it displays its subitems in a tree and stuff. The original Poll product (Poll.py) has: manage_options=( {'label':'Properties', 'action':'manage_main'}, .... manage_main=HTMLFile('pollEdit', globals()) So it has no Content tab, and the main view is an edit form. I took a line from another product with the behavior I wanted and said: manage_options=( {'label':'Contents', 'action':'manage_main'}, .... (removing the Properties entry) and didn't define manage_main at all. But it looks exactly the same as before! Is there somewhere else it could be determining what tabs to display and what function to call for each? Poll is derived from (Folder,RoleManager) -- it should be looking in Folder, right? Am I totally off base here? Thanks Adam

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Re: [Zope] 2.1.4 to 2.1.6 nightmare
by Chris Withers 24 May '00

24 May '00

Felipe Alvarez Harnecker wrote: > > Finally it works. Thanks. > > Do you know why DigitalCreations haven't release a patch? Dunno :S > I guess i'm not the first one getting mad with 2.1.6. Had us fooled for about a week :( I think it's all fixed in 2.2 anyway, which may be why no patch was released... cheers, Chris

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Cannot rename or move my ZClass object
by Lindell Alderman 24 May '00

24 May '00

I have derived a ZClass from the Folder base class and it works great, except I cannot rename or move my ZClass. How can I fix this? -L

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Re: [Zope] 2.1.4 to 2.1.6 nightmare
by Chris Withers 24 May '00

24 May '00

Felipe Alvarez Harnecker wrote: > Applied the patch. No luck. Still getting the same behavior. Oops, sorry, missed the SQL method first time round... You'll also need to do the following: > > In the file: lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/DA.py > > Around line 424, replace: > > query=apply(self.template, (p, argdata)) > > with > > query=apply(self.template, (p, argdata), argdata.__data__) cheers, Chris

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Good news for Zope/Mozilla efforts!
by Dan L. Pierson 24 May '00

24 May '00

Looks like we really will be seeing Python support in Mozilla one of these days! Soon? http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CosTtWbKbytaXodG

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Reloading products
by Seb Bacon 24 May '00

24 May '00

newbie time: I'm trying to write a product AlbumImage which extends Image to include a thumbnail. I was determined to slog it out without begging for help, but I've come up against a very strange brick wall. I'm getting problems with an import statement at the beginning of my product from OFS.PropertyManager import PropertyManager now then. I originally mis-spelled PropertyManager 'PropertyManageer' and got a traceback telling me it didn't exist. Fine. I changed it to the correct spelling, stopped and started my zope (n.b. is there any way of reloading a product without the tedium of stopping and starting zope?), and it still said 'no module named PropertyManageer'. So I tried changing it to ProoopertyManager, restarted Zope and sure enough the error was 'no module named ProoopertyManager'. BUT...I changed it to PropertyManager again and the error was *still* 'no module named ProoopertyManager'. Any clues, anyone? -seb > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of > Lindell Alderman > Sent: 24 May 2000 20:18 > To: Zope Developers; Zope Users > Subject: [Zope] Cannot rename or move my ZClass object > > > I have derived a ZClass from the Folder base class and it works > great, except I cannot rename or move my ZClass. How can I fix this? > > -L > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > >

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