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- Zope and converted content
by Paul Prescod 19 Dec '98

19 Dec '98

I would like to pump SGML and XML files through various external converters (sometimes Python, sometimes not) when they are submitted as content. Is there some obvious way to hook these converters into Zope? Paul Prescod - ISOGEN Consulting Engineer speaking for only himself http://itrc.uwaterloo.ca/~papresco "Sports utility vehicles are gated communities on wheels" - Anon

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- RE: Zope programming idioms
by Jeff Bauer 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

>> At any rate, the round-trip nature of dtml to object >> methods to dtml to whatever probably makes useful >> how-to fodder. How will the proposed JimF changes >> to DocumentTemplate affect this idiom? > Well there are a couple different scenarios, it's not > always DTML to object method to DTML, etc. > > Often you can view the request->response, request->response > cycle of interaction of you app as simply DTML->DTML->DTML, Yes, that is what I was using the 'whatever' placeholder for, but you elucidated the principle better. > In fact my spice example could be written in this style > by having the request URL go to a page that looks like this: > >""" > > ><h1>Meal successfully spiced</h1> >""" > > I personally find this style less appealing. But you can > structure things either way. I've done this too, and had considered it as a kind of alternative that makes me feel slightly queasy. > In fact, you will probably encounter this style a lot more > in Zope that you would in Bobo, since it's much easier to > write DTML in Zope than it is to write Python code. > Additionally, this style is more conducive to objects with > ad hoc attributes--like Folders. In fact it may help Bobo > programmers to think of Zope folders as essentially empty > instances whose attributes are built by adding Documents, > and External Methods, and other objects to them. > I think if you grok this Zope will make a lot more sense. I think I intuit it okay, given my prior experience with Bobo, but full grokking can only occur when one has a chance to break things <0.4 wink>. > Finally, as to how Jim's new DTML Document Product will > changes things, I predict that from the programmer's point > of view it won't. You will still probably be best served > by using DTML Methods as you always have. Thanks, this is a useful data point. Okay, what started off as a simple post has brought us to the edge of where Bobo left off and Zope begins. One issue to be addressed is how to combine the raw power and flexibility of pure Bobo within the Zope framework. I think Amos' experimental External Objects (12/14/98) is one attempt to address this issue. I confess: Although I can see the overwhelming usefulness of Zope in distributing the "web-construction-maintenance" portion of the workload to users (esp. non-programmers -- no mean feat), I'm still uncertain as to how I can apply it all programatically (i.e. without bci/ZPublisher.Client) with the ease I've enjoyed using Bobo. Best regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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- type codes in Searchable Object Interface
by Ty Sarna 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

The Searchable Object Interface documentation at: http://www.digicool.com/site/PrincipiaDeveloperPack/SearchableObjectInterfa… says that fields are types "s", "n", "i", or "d", but doesn't explain what these are. Looking at the b3 ZSQL source, "s" is string, "d" is date, "n" is "number", and "i" seems unused. I though perhaps "n" was for floats and "i" for integers, but since "i" is unused, should I use "n" for both?

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- FYI: Example of using Gadfly and DTML scripting
by Paul Everitt 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Howdy. Anybody do like me and download b3, then stare at a blank screen wondering what to do with Gadfly? If so, or if you'd like a handy little example of how to write Documents that script DTML, take a look at: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/HowTo/SampleGadfly --Paul Paul Everitt Digital Creations paul(a)digicool.com 540.371.6909

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RE: [Zope] - Setting up 2 Zope's
by Pedro Lima 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Jeff Bauer <jeffbauer(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: > > > Check the values in your second /zope2/Zope.cgi info > file. Do they point to the same paths (pcgi.soc, > pcgi.pid, etc.) in your first Zope.cgi? I forgot to tell that I did run install -u nobody in both zope's instalations. zope2/Zope.cgi points to the correct place > You problem is most likely related to something > in your second Zope.cgi file, assuming you have > everything correct in your rewrite rule above. So, this means that 2 Zope's should work correctly. I'll try harder to find my problem. Thanks a lot pedro _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [Zope] - Setting up 2 Zope's
by Jeff Bauer 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

> * I instaled 2 zope directories in > /usr/local/zope and /usr/local/zope2 > > * I instaled Zap and I added one extra rewrite rule to > the Apache/start file > > -c "RewriteRule ^/site/(.*) $dot/../../zope2/Zope.cgi/\$1 > [last,e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l]" \ > > The first site http://localhost/zope/ works fine, the second > zope (localhost/site/) gives the error Check the values in your second /zope2/Zope.cgi info file. Do they point to the same paths (pcgi.soc, pcgi.pid, etc.) in your first Zope.cgi? You problem is most likely related to something in your second Zope.cgi file, assuming you have everything correct in your rewrite rule above. Best regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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- Zope example...
by Magnus Lie Hetland 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Does the zope site use zope? In that case, it would be a good example for new users to learn from... Perhaps you could write up a page on how it is structured and what tricks you have used (for the automatic sidebar/header etc...) -- Magnus Lie Hetland www.pvv.org/arcadia <arcadia(a)pvv.org>

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- Setting up 2 Zope's
by Pedro Lima 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

I want to make to two web sites in my server and I thought it would be better to have 2 Zope's running separatly (mainly because of permissions and for being able to move the databases from one machine to other) As if I'm not sure if this is possible. Can someone tell me if it's worth to find the problem, or if this won't ever work? I tried the following * I instaled 2 zope directories in /usr/local/zope and /usr/local/zope2 * I instaled Zap and I added one extra rewrite rule to the Apache/start file -c "RewriteRule ^/site/(.*) $dot/../../zope2/Zope.cgi/\$1 [last,e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l]" \ The first site http://localhost/zope/ works fine, the second zope (localhost/site/) gives the error --- Temporarily Unavailable The resource you requested is temporarily unavailable - please try again later. (103) unable to verify if process is running --- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Zope] - Upgrading...
by Amos Latteier 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

At 05:22 PM 12/18/98 +0100, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > >How do you upgrade zope without affecting your current database? Just copy >it into the new var-directory? In general you should be able to copy a Zope database to a new installation by copying all the var/Data.* files. You shouldn't copy any of those var/pcgi.* files over. Whenever you handle var files you should be aware of permission issues. The rule is that the userid that Zope runs as needs to have read & write permissions to the var directory and all files in it. Another way to upgrade a site is to simply install it over the old site. I believe that this should not overwrite the var/Data.* files. But I'm not totally sure of this, so I would *highly* recommend backing up your var/Data.* files first. -Amos

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- On translating Zope into Korean by an awful newbie.
by LEE, Kwan Soo 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Hi, Zopers! I started translating Zope into Korean. At first, I thought what I would do is trnaslating those English phrase in DTMLs(this seems no problem. diffing & patching is far more simple than I feared). But now I see that there are many English phrases & word in *.py files which appear on the browsing window. Hence I editd a line in lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py for try, i.e. from __ac_roles__=('Manager', 'Anonymous') into __ac_roles__=('관리자', '방문객') (sorry, you can not see Korean characters). Contrary to my expectation, IT WORKS!(at least so far). I did in Red Hat Linux 5.2 with Zope beta 2 Linux Distribution. Getting more corageous, I would try to convert every 'Folder' into '폴더' some day soon. But this hope raises several questions. 1. Is it safe to edit *.py files as I did? 'Manager', 'Folder', etc seems important keywords. Hence I suspect there are some codes which rely on exact forms of such words. 2. If not, how about specifing or seperating into Globals.py such safely-translatable keywords embeded in *.py files? It will accelerate globalizing Zope. Peoples feels more comfort seeing their native language. Even Pope blessed people in their native language many times. BTW, we have cute 'Zope Powered Logo'. So why not do some cosmetics on '(c) Zope' button and credits.html? And it would be better to include the attribution materials in var/data.bbb ready made. so far from the talkative, proudly awful newbie. Kwan-Soo

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