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Re: [Zope] - How to pronounce Zope?
by Michael Scharf 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Jeff Bauer wrote: > > Posted 11/29/98 ... > > Web coding blues? Don't Mope > Don't slip down that CGI Slope > You tried ASP without a Rope > You reach for Perl, you Grope > Gonna write Perl code? Nope! > > You're out of Hope? > Don't be a Dope! > Here's a product to help you Cope > It's an object publishing Trope > A new web system, now called 'Zope' > > with-apologies-to-rap-artists-everywhere-ly yr's, > > Jeff "Mastaman" Bauer Great!!!!! Michael -- ''''\ Michael Scharf ` c-@@ TakeFive Software ` > http://www.TakeFive.com \_ V mailto:Michael_Scharf@TakeFive.co.at

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RE: [Zope] - Concept Questions
by Jeff Bauer 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

> I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone > object if I post some conceptual questions on Zope, > such as "can Zope" "should Zope" will Zope"? or should > I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this > list for startup questions only? Not speaking for Digital Creations, but discussion is encouraged on this list. This actually helps the Z guys because it takes some of the load off them responding to email. It helps if you can ground your questions in pragmatic terms, however, such as Skip's recent calendar thread. Most subscribers understood what Skip was trying to accomplish and everyone benefited from the discussion. Best regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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RE: [Zope] - Concept Questions
by Paul Everitt 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Dave wrote: > I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone object if > I post some > conceptual questions on Zope, such as "can Zope" "should > Zope" will Zope"? > or should I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this > list for startup > questions only? Howdy sir. Take a look at the unpublished: http://www.zope.org/Information/QA2 I know the formatting is a little broken, and Jeff Bauer kindly added some stuff to PCGI. But I realize I'm too close to Bobo/Principia/Zope to realize whether I have the right questions. Right answers, obviously, are optional :^) So, please send me (privately) your list of questions that I overlooked. I'll try to get that up tomorrow. --Paul

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- How to pronounce Zope?
by Michael Scharf 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

A non-native speaker question: How would you pronounce Zope? Like 'zone' with a P or like 'zoo + pee' or??? Michael -- ''''\ Michael Scharf ` c-@@ TakeFive Software ` > http://www.TakeFive.com \_ V mailto:Michael_Scharf@TakeFive.co.at

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- Concept Questions
by Dave Goodrich 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Thanks all for help getting me running with zope. It's always the little things that get ya ain't it? I realize this list for the Zope beta, would anyone object if I post some conceptual questions on Zope, such as "can Zope" "should Zope" will Zope"? or should I send them directly to Digicool and reserve this list for startup questions only? Thanks, DAve.

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- Vote for Zope Logos
by Amos Latteier 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Help us decide on a logo for Zope. http://www.zope.org/Community/Projects/LogoVoter Vote for your favorite and least favorite logos using a primitive DTML voting app Brian whipped up in 45 minutes. Thanks. -Amos P.S. We're not actively soliciting Logos, but if you have an idea send it on in. P.P.S. We'll hopefully get around to documenting examples like this soon. Until then view the source and learn.

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RE: [Zope] - zope jitterbug
by Alan Wostenberg 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Paul, we access Sybase through ODBC drivers, so it sounds like Aqueduct is the ticket for our Zope front end to the legacy system. Time to look untar Zope and kick some tires, Thanks, -Alan Wostenberg Baan Front Office, Golden, Colorado > Finally, turns out we have a calltracck system (Scopus) with > a poor user > interface. > > It's hosted in Sybase. I note Zope has various SQL > interfaces. Do you think > it's an adequate tool to put a nice web front end on a legacy tracking > system via SQL? Paul: > Sybase on what platform? > > We find the SQL integration (formerly known as Aqueduct) in Zope to be > pretty spiffy. And it is decently documented...not the programming > stuff, but certainly building web front ends to databases.

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- RE: first install, first connect
by Dave Goodrich 10 Dec '98

10 Dec '98

Yahooooooo Reinstall as user set file and dir permissions to user start server as user I can connect, "Mom, I'm home!" Thanks y'all DAve. This should go into the install instructions, most all other software asks you to be root to compile and install, the instructions for Zope said nothing different so I followed what I thought to be "the norm".

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RE: [Zope] - Killing versus shutting down??
by Jeff Bauer 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

> When shutting down Zope, will there be an averse effects if > the serve.py process is killed with a Ctrl-C, as opposed to > shutting down the process using the management screem (assuming > of course, no requests are being handled when this is done!) If you're using INET sockets, the socket may not be immediately available for use after the process has been killed. I think this is an issue with Win32. If using PCGI, you will want to delete the socket and pid files in the var directory. There is a utility .../pcgi/Util/killpcgi.py that can be used to kill the process from the command line. It's argument is the name of the pcgi info file (in this case Zope.cgi). killpcgi terminates the running process and removes the socket/pid files. Regards, Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc.

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- first install, first connect
by Dave Goodrich 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

Install an compile went fine with no errors (running ZopeHttpServer on a Slackware Linux box) First connect after an easy install , I request "http://myhostnamewenthere:8080/manage" and netscape returned, "Document contains no data". My first guess was that I didn't have permissions to the dir Zope needed, but I checked and I do. So is Zope serving a broken header file? or is this a common first time error? I checked the list archive with no luck. I couldn't find a file/dir "manage" anywhere, even tried a search from "/" with no luck. DAve. The server log shows the following errors. <log> Publishing module Main Serving HTTP on port 8080 ... ---------------------------------------- Exception happened during processing of request from ('xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, 2194) ---------------------------------------- -------------------------------------er.py", line 295, in publish_module File "/home/dad/dadstuff/Zope-1.9b1-src/ZopeHTTPServer/ZopeHTTPServer.py", line 321, in get_environment File "/usr/lib/python1.5/SimpleHTTPServer.py", line 87, in translate_path path = os.getcwd() error: (13, 'Permission denied') Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/dad/dadstuff/Zope-1.9b1-src/ZopeHTTPServer/ZopeHTTPServer.py", line 355, in handle_request File "/usr/lib/python1.5/SocketServer.py", line 239, in process_request self.finish_request(request, client_address) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/SocketServer.py", line 243, in finish_request self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self) File "/usr/lib/python1.5/SocketServer.py", line 362, in __init__ self.handle() File "/usr/lib/python1.5/BaseHTTPServer.py", line 258, in handle method() File "/home/dad/dadstuff/Zope-1.9b1-src/ZopeHTTPServer/ZopeHTTPServer.py", line 288, in do_GET File "/home/dad/dadstuff/Zope-1.9b1-src/ZopeHTTPServer/ZopeHTTPServer.py", line 295, in publish_module File "/home/dad/dadstuff/Zope-1.9b1-src/ZopeHTTPServer/ZopeHTTPServer.py", line 321, in get_environment File "/usr/lib/python1.5/SimpleHTTPServer.py", line 87, in translate_path path = os.getcwd() error: (13, 'Permission denied') </log>

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