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Re: [Zope] Zope won't start with Archetypes 1.3
by hpinson＠indepthl.com 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Yes, I tried the installing the bundle as well as the standalone Archetypes. No luck, Zope still won't start in either case. Removeing the bundle and restoring Archtypes 1.2.5-rc5 and Zope starts normally. I mispoke about my version of python. It is 2.3.3 Is 2.3.4 required for Archtypes 1.3 to work? I'm worried about other things breaking if I install python 2.3.4. This truly is a return to dll hell. Harlow Pinson Indepth Learning Email: hpinson(a)indepthl.com Web: http://www.indepthl.com Voice: 505-994-2135 FAX: 208-475-7678

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general API question
by David Evans 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Hello all, I've just started working on zope, coming from java servlet land. so far i'm very happy with my ability to get up and running quickly, its seems to be a great framework that allows very fast development. i am having trouble with the API documentation. i was looking for the full documentation of the request class API, and found this: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AppendixB.stx#2… but this seems to be more an overview than a formal API document. for instance one of the user comments mentions the existance of an attribute called "form" that is a dictionary, and i used it in a script and it worked. but nowhere in the request class documentation does it mention that attribute. i took a guess that if "form" was an attribute, so was "cookies" and sure enough, there it was. is there a more complete API reference available, and if not how can i contribute to the update of the curent API to a more complete status? thanks, dave

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Databases
by John Poltorak 06 Oct '04

06 Oct '04

Can I use ZODB instead of running MySQL (or equivalent) for holding a simple collection of records? I'm not really sure about the capabilities of ZODB and would appreciate any pointers to docs I should read. -- John

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using xml-rpc with javascript to access zope
by Laura McCord 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Help. I am so lost and frustrated. I am using xml-rpc with server-side perl modules and subroutines. But, I do not know how to access these through javascript so I can spit out the results from my zope page template. I have been using a client-side python script to access these subrountines and creating external methods to use them in my zpt, but now I need to use one of these subroutines though an 'onclick'. And of course, I have learned the hard way that zope can not be accessed directly through javascript. I have also been told that Epoz uses javascript in this way but after looking at Epoz I am completely lost and do not know where to start. I am hoping that someone knows a simple or basic way of doing this for someone like me that is a new programmer. Thank You.

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Blog recommendations
by John Poltorak 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Does anyone have a recommendation for a blogger? -- John

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Re: [ZPT] Re: [Zope] Should the ZPT list be retired?
by Fred Drake 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:54:41 +0100, Fergal Daly <fergal(a)esatclear.ie> wrote: > The only reason I can think of is that there are non-zope people on this > list, Petal people for example, who are solely interested in ZPT. However > there's very little zpt discussion going on here, presumably it's all on the > zope list so it seems a a bit pointless keeping the list, Actually, the presence of the non-Zope crowd is important. However, the only discussions there are these days are over details of I18N/L10N and the constant fussing over <script> and <style> being different from other elements (that people actually use). If there were discussion of alternate implementations or design decisions, or design for new versions of the specifications, I'd be inclined to keep the list. But there doesn't seem to be any of that. Does anyone from outside the Zope crowd want to see this list maintained? If the list valuable, I'm happy to serve list admin if one's needed. But if no-one wants the list, its retirement is attractive. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at gmail.com> Zope Corporation

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LDAPUserSatellite - Misunderstood usage?
by Chris Connett 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Hello, I've been trying to find a description of how the LDAPUserSatellite objects in the LDAPUserFolder Product actually should be used. I've read the included docs and google searched for answers, but can't find what I'm looking for. Basically I've got a large directory of users, and want to give some additional roles in some subfolders of my site. I have a single subfolder below the Zope root housing my site, which contains an LDAPUserFolder connected to this directory, with the original user folder still in place, with one user (admin). I don't have write access to the directory I'm authenticating against (the directory is operated by my school), so I've got LDAP group status stored locally in the LDAPUserFolder, and read-only set on the directory. When I map a group to a role in the LDAPUserFolder itself, the users in the group get that role for the whole site. My understanding from the docs I have found is that if I create a satellite in a subfolder, then I can map groups to roles there, and then those mappings will be in effect for that subfolder. This does not seem to be working. Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong, or where my understanding might be flawed? -- Chris Connett

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triggering Python socket code from Zope
by Bill Seitz 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

I'm going to need to pass some status messages to a business partner over UDP. I've already written that Python code. At the moment it's intended to be called from various batch scripts. But the partner also wants one particular message to be triggered from a process that happens via web form. Am I going to have to turn the underlying code into a Product? Or is a Python Script going to be sufficient? Are there sandbox issues? (The code does some file reading and writing, uses struct.pack(), uses string.strip(), time.time()...)

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Disgraceful
by Tiller, Michael (M.M.) 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

<rant> This is such a bunch of bullshit. I am so tired of "the answer is out there somewhere, why can't you find it yourself?" being the justification for not helping people who ask reasonable questions. To add insult to injury Asad was being quite courteous (e.g. he went so far as to thank you for your initial response) and you guys just start jumping all over him. Please explain to me why the mailing list should be a solution-of-last-result??? After all, you can find the solution to every question by looking at the Zope source code...ergo, all questions to the mailing list are a waste of time because the person didn't have the time to go picking through the source code? Personally, I am more than happy to help people with questions if I know the answer off the top of my head. ***What is the big deal?!?*** Just because the answer exists somewhere doesn't mean I expect people to spend lots of their time (**which is valuable too by the way**) to go digging it out. Zope (and Plone) are very complicated systems and not all of us hack the source code to Zope on a daily basis so we don't know all the "ins and outs". If you consider it a waste of your time to answer our questions then DON'T, but there is no need to insult us. I don't know if you noticed but they don't exactly have the mindshare or marketshare of other solutions and I don't think that is likely to change when people come here looking for answers and get nothing but grief. I've said it many times before...if you can't be constructive just don't say anything. You are poisoning this community with this nonsense. In my opinion, the level or arrogance and stubbornness to help on the part of some people on this mailing list is really disgraceful and I can't believe others on this list don't feel the same way. </rant> -- Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-bounces(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces@zope.org] On Behalf Of > Andreas Jung > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:32 PM > To: Asad Habib; Andreas Jung > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Session Timeout > > > > --On Freitag, 24. September 2004 12:21 Uhr -0400 Asad Habib > <ahabib(a)engin.umich.edu> wrote: > > > Ah, so I see how it is. It takes two to pick on one. Well, who has more > > spare time on their hands, those who post messages to the list asking > for > > help, or those who post messages shunning others that ask for help? Both > > of you could do us all a favor by keeping your worthless comments to > > yourself. > > > > It's all about using existing resources e.g. the Zope Book. People have > spend > a lot of time producing documentation. So don't complain if you don't want > to use it. > > -aj > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Zope X3 3.0.0 RC 2 released
by Stephan Richter 05 Oct '04

05 Oct '04

Hello Zope community, The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce the second release candidate for Zope X3 3.0.0. Hopefully this will be the last one. Zope X3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2. The "X" in the name stands for "experimental", since this release does not try to provide any backward-compatibility to Zope 2. Downloads http://zope.org/Products/ZopeX3 Installation instructions for both Windows and Un*x/Linux are now available in the top level README.txt of the distribution. The binary installer is recommended for Windows. Changes since RC 1 - A security related bug was fixed. See the "Issue Collector":http://collector.zope.org/Zope3-Dev/286 for details. - Fixed a bug that would crash the API Doc tool, if no default skin was specified. - Fixed a couple of typos in the documentation. - Updated to latest version of the ZODB, version 3.3 final. - The 'zope.app.observable' package was removed from the release, since it was unusable. - The 'zope.app.i18nfile' package was removed, since it was always just a demo to demonstrate the internationalization of content. However, it has not been maintained with regard to recent changes and does not function properly anymore, so we decided to remove it. - Updated translations. Enjoy, the Zope 3 Development Team

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