October 1999 - Zope - Zope lists

yet another squishdot-based site
by Jens Vagelpohl 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

came across this site tonight: http://www.waitstate.com/ it's obviously zope+squishdot-based. the exactc purpose of the site (apart from seemingly imitating slashdot in its style) is not explained Jens Vagelpohl Systems Administrator Washtenaw Development Council

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Cache Technologies compared with Zope?
by Bruce Elrick 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

Caught this link through LinuxPR.com http://www.e-DBMS.com/cache/weblink/index.html I imagine a number of people here could wade through the PR and compare. I don't get the feeling that it is as sophisticated as Zope... Bruce -- Bruce Elrick, Ph.D. Saltus Technology Consulting Group Cell: (403) 870-4429 Personal: belrick(a)home.com IBM Certified Specialist Business: belrick(a)saltus.ab.ca ADSM, AIX Support, RS/6000 SP, HACMP

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Re: [Zope] <dtml-with> Question
by Kevin Dangoor 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

-----Original Message----- From: Sascha Matzke <matzke(a)metabox.de> To: zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 2:03 PM Subject: [Zope] <dtml-with> Question >I want to do something like > ><dtml-with "objA.objB.objC"> > something ></dtml-with> > >but the "objA..."-part is in a string variable. > ><dtml-with "stringvar"> or <dtml-with stringvar> don't work... It sounds like you're basically trying to do a namespace lookup. <dtml-with "_[objA]"> should do what you want. Kevin

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ANNOUNCEMENT: MySQLdb-0.1.1 released
by Andy Dustman 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

MySQLdb-0.1.1 is a bugfix release for MySQLdb, a thread-friendly interface to MySQL-3.22. Thanks to Stephen Gava and Mark Favas for pointing out a few problems. cursor.fetchmany() now works (one I never used) and some of the _mysql.conn methods probably would have dumped core if they were ever used (MySQLdb doesn't use them, but they are there for completeness), and didn't compile on some systems. Thilo Mezger pointed out the patched ZMySQLDA didn't return numbers on numeric columns; I had assumed that Zope did this conversion itself. Adding the minimal type converter dictionary from MySQLdb to the connect() call fixes this, and my understanding is that this means it is now really working 100%. As usual, it's available at http://starship.python.net/crew/adustman, and will soon be on www.zope.org as well. -- andy dustman | programmer/analyst | comstar.net, inc. telephone: 770.485.6025 / 706.549.7689 | icq: 32922760 | pgp: 0xc72f3f1d

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MS Site Server vs. Zope
by Chris McDonough 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

Please see http://sharon.iqgroup.com/zopevssiteserver.html for a (barely objective) comparison of Zope vs. MS Site Server as an Intranet development platform. Thanks! Chris

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RE: [Zope] inconsistency in tag argument syntax
by Jay, Dylan 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Bernstein [mailto:mbernstein@profitscape.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 05:31 > To: Jay, Dylan > Cc: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: Re: [Zope] inconsistency in tag argument syntax > > > "Jay, Dylan" wrote: > > > > From: Michael Bernstein [mailto:mbernstein@profitscape.net] > > > > > > "Jay, Dylan" wrote: > > > > > > The problem is however that I can't see a backwards > > > compatible way of fixing > > > > this problem. Alternatives are > > > > a) You could introduce a evaluate expression syntax like > > > there is in sh > > > > script. i.e. name="`myMethod()`". This however makes things > > > more confusing > > > > and unreadable. > > > > b) Another possibility is to make all "non-expression" > > > arguments become > > > > expression arguments. This would break existing code and > > > mean all string > > > > constants look like name="'A name'" which is also not > > > intuitive and messy. > > > > This could be made cleaner by allowing syntax such as > name='A name'. > > > > c) Or ignore the problem. > > > > > > > > I prefer option b). > > > > What do other people think? > > > > > > If you want to provide dynamic atributes for all tags, the > > > "&dtml-foo" entity > > > syntax would be more appropriate, and would avoid breaking current > > > implementations (I think). You would just have to assign the > > > value of your > > > expression to foo beforehand. > > > > Are you saying that > > <dtml-let orderby="'aFieldName'"> > > <dtml-in aList sort=&dtml-orderby> > > </dtml-in> > > </dtml-let> > > > > will work? I don't think this is the case. From looking at > the code I saw no > > place where this happens. > > No, I'm saying that this (name="&dtml-orderby") would be a > better option than > (b) for evolving to a situation where all attributes can be > dynamically > assigned, and would avoid breaking existing code, constants > can continue to look > like name="name". Oh I see now. However big problem. With this scheme you can never have a string argument that begins with &

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RE: [Zope] Turn static HTML dynamic?
by Jay, Dylan 12 Oct '99

12 Oct '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: User Webteam [mailto:webteam@uni-bielefeld.de] > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 22:18 > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Turn static HTML dynamic? > > > Hi! > > We´re thinking about using Zope for our University website. > Now we face > following problem: > We need a simple solution for people who don´t want to care about DTML > to publish their documents using Composer or similar WYSIWYG tools. > These documents should be rendered with some standard HTML-code > (navigation and the like). Is there any possibility to do this without > having to teach everyone <dtml-var> etc.? We tested various things > (access rules) but in the best case we end up with nested <html> tags. > Unfortunately, we have no python experts here and we´re not learning > fast enough to present a solution within time. > > Some background info: we have to ensure that virtually erveryone here > has a simple way to put information on the net. Most of these people > have little or no HTML knowledge but use Composer, HotMetal > or even word > to create their documents. So it seems unacceptable to our bosses to > bother anyone with manipulating sources. We would really like to use > Zope because of its great management features, user management and > expandibility (and its price ;-), so any hints would be highly > appreciated. Heres my idea for this. Have a seperate ftp server running that uses different GET and PUT methods. These methods will work differently from just presenting the straight DTML. The GET method will do something like a rendering with the DTML encoded into comment tags. So <dtml-var standard_html_header> <ul> <dtml-in aList> <li><dtml-var sequence-item></li> </dtml-in> </ul> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> Would be rendered like  <html> <title>A big Title</title> <body>  <ul>  <li>Item1</li>  <li>Item2</li>   </body> </html>  Not exactly clean but it would mean a WYSIWYG editor could edit the whole page and as long as the comments were preserved then the everything would be fine. The PUT method would decode the above and turn it back into the orginal DTML. Changes inside iterations might have to be merged somewhat. Changes to server side includes could be propergated back to the included object as long as the user has permission to change it. Changes to variables like sequence-item can just be ignored. Changes to objects with which the user has no permission can similarly be ignored. Why go to all this trouble? a) It lets wysiwyg people make changes to DTML code hopefully without destroying it. b) It lets DTML people do a bit a visual design once in awhile. c) It lets beginers write content for a site that needs to have the standard footer and header on each page and still see what it looks like. d) It will allow Zope to do something no other server side scripting can do, successfully combine scripting and wysiwyg editing. e) It allows the use existing editors such as Homesite rather trying again with javascript or java or whatever. How can this be implemented? Having a quick look round the code, not easily. I think the recursive way DTML is parsed and rendered makes it hard to put extra steps between recursions. Does everyone think this a) Won't work very well b) Isn't worth it c) great idea but impossible to impliment. d) fantastic idea, I'll have it done tonight ....?

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Evaluating DTML Tags in a string ?
by Sascha Matzke 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

Hello, here is another of my "think around too many corners" questions... I've got a zclass which has a string property called text. This string may include a <dtml-var> tag, which doesn't gets evaluated when called with <dtml-var text>. Any hints ?? I already thought about using HTMLFile and StringIO in a python base class. Sascha -- .-> Sascha Matzke - sascha(a)bespin.de - http://www.bespin.de -. | Eure Moral, Eure MGs werden nicht ewig regier'n... | | Anarchist Academy | `-- On this earth for 23 years, 363 days <----------------'

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Re: [Zope] Can't add "date" property to new ZClass
by Dr. Ross Lazarus 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

It's a mildly annoying "feature" - you need to put a default date - 2000/01/01 will work fine. Instances must be created with a date in that field. Sometimes I think it's easier to leave them as strings....same goes for int fields - must have a default.,"loren stafford" <lstaffor-(a)icompression.com> wrote: ,original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/?start=14438,> I'm creating a brand new ZClass (called "PDFClass"). It's my first ZClass.,> I've just added the Common Instance Property Sheet (called "PDFProperties").,> Now I'm trying to add properties to that property sheet. I added one,> "string" property OK, but now when I add the "date" property "pub_date", I,> get this error:,> Invalid Date-Time String: Sorry, an error occurred,> ,> Of course, the value is invalid -- I didn't put any value in the "Value",> box, because this is a class property, and values only make sense when the,> class is instantiated, right?,> ,> Is this Zope's problem or mine? -- Dr Ross Lazarus Associate Professor and Sub-Dean for Information Technology Faculty of Medicine, Room 126A, A27, University of Sydney, Camperdown, NSW 2006, Australia Tel: (+61 2) 93514429 Mobile: +61414872482 Fax: (+61 2) 93516646 Email: rossl(a)med.usyd.edu.au http://www.health.usyd.edu.au/people/rossl.htm

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Accessing forms through dtml
by DYLANSNOW＠aol.com 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

Heres what I am trying to do... I have a form with a large number of input fields on a dtml document which passes control to a dtml method to send mail to the user informing them of their request. I don't want to have to access every form by it's name to get the data. If I could make a general method to get the data from the form and put it into an array it would be great. Is there a form object accessible by Zope? Any input you have would be great. Thanks, Dylan

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