December 1999 - Zope

Documentation Solution
by Eron Lloyd 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

As a member of the ZDP, as well as several other Documentation Projects, I understand exactly where these complaints are coming from. I'm still in the learning stage of Zope, and I admit, am stumbling over the current *official* documentation; nonetheless, I think I'm gaining a foothold. I'm not going to say what Digital Creations should do about this dilemma, but present several options: 1. Create a good communication with the ZDP. As far as I know, not much if any of the ZDP's effort has made it into official documentation. Let's encourage eachother, not point fingers. Let writers know that they are needed; even better, compile a list of EXACTLY what needs to be written/updated. 2. Have volunteers mine the mail archives and compile notes. There is TONS of excellent questions/answers to real world situations on everything Zope. Let's start going through and indexing them. 3. Put together TUTORIALS. If you know how to do something, document it. I'm sure someone would appreciate it. Contact the ZDP, and we'll put up a good collection. 4. Proofread. Many of the Official Guides have typos and broken code examples. Let Pam know. A simple page# description would help ALOT. 5. NEWBIES: Instead of just requesting help on something, request someone to make a How-to. This is another way we can gather priceless material instead of letting it dissolve into the mail archives. 6. A Hypertext help-system integrated into the Zope installation. 7. What tools? Here are some tools we could decide to use for docs (+/-): - DocBook SGML/XML DTD: Powerful, standardized; yet complex - VERY complex. - StarOffice: good Word Processor, supports multi-user docs (redlining, etc.), free; Big, some say bloated. - Structured Text: native to Zope, easy to write in; not functional enough, can't convert to different formats easily - CONGLOMERATE: This could be our answer - an XML-based Document editing/management system, FREE (GPL'd); not yet completed... (www.conglomerate.org) I thing Conglomerate could be our solution. But for now, let's bump heads and work together, and put reality back into check. Eron Lloyd

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dtml-sendmail problems
by Graham Chiu 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

When I use the smtp host as in <dmtl-sendmail smtphost="mail.whatever.com" mailto=someone(a)where.com mailfrom=me(a)whatever.com subject="this is the subject> body </dtml-sendmail> Then the mail gets sent, but the subject line never appears in the email sent. I also can't include a variable in the mailto parameter. If I send it this way instead ... <dmtl-sendmail smtphost="mail.whatever.com"> To: <<dtml-var EMAIL>> From: <me(a)whatever.com> Subject: "this is the subject" body </dtml-sendmail> then I get the following error - spelling mistake and all Recieved error code 553 from SMTP: 553 ... Domain name required. This error also appears if I use the mailhost object. The final three lines in the traceback are: File F:\Zope2\lib\python\Products\MailHost\MailHost.py, line 209, in send (Object: ) File F:\Zope2\lib\python\Products\MailHost\MailHost.py, line 291, in send File F:\Zope2\lib\python\Products\MailHost\MailHost.py, line 284, in _check SMTP Error: (see above) ------- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiu<at>compkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.com/dynamo - The Homebuilt Dynamo http://www.compkarori.com/dbase - The dBase bulletin

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being slashdotted
by bruce＠perens.com 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

My site is pointed to by several front-page URLs on slashdot today. CPU load is never going above 20% and right now it's about 1%. The wire is a 768K bit per second SDSL. The system is a pentium III 450 with 128MB RAM. Don't let anyone tell you that Python is too slow. Bruce

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Zope.org's news product
by Timothy Wilson 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

Hi everyone, A student of mine and I have been planning to put together a ZClass-based news posting product for our site. Squishdot and KM|Net News are really overkill for what we want. Really, it seems that the way news is implemented at Zope.org is what we'd like. So, DC folks, would it be possible to make it available? That'd save me some time. :-) -Tim -- Timothy Wilson | "The faster you | Check out: Henry Sibley H.S. | go, the shorter | http://slashdot.org/ W. St. Paul, MN, USA | you are." | http://linux.com/ wilson(a)visi.com | -Einstein | http://www.mn-linux.org/

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Re: [Zope] ZRTChat
by Jim Washington 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

Hi, Robin Hmmm... user is a variable that is assigned when you first login. The source of the bottom frame when 'Jim' is logged in looks like: <CENTER><TABLE CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0> <TR><TD> <nobr><FORM ACTION="formframe" METHOD="POST"> Your message: <input name=user type=hidden value="Jim"> <textarea name=message rows=3 cols=50></textarea> <input type=submit value="Post Message"> </form></nobr> </TD><TD> <nobr><FORM ACTION="formframe" METHOD="POST"> <input name=user type=hidden value=""> <input type=submit value="Logoff"> </form></nobr> </TD></TR> </TABLE></CENTER> so user should be there in REQUEST.form, because it is passed in the hidden field. BUT the beginning of formframe only checks to see if there is [somewhere!] a non-nil variable called message, AHA! So, Robin, I will bet you have a 'message' on the acquisition path. If so, the right answer is: The first part of formframe should read: <dtml-if message> <dtml-if user> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('dt',ZopeTime())"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('id',dt.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S')+user)"> <dtml-call "ChatItemClass_add(_.None, _, NoRedir=1)"> </dtml-if> </dtml-if> since we need both user and message here. Let me know if this works. My take-home lesson in this is that I definitely should use less popular variable names in an acquisition system. -- Jim Washington Shall we call this kind of bug "Spanish Acquisition"? It has a Pythonish ring... And few of us really expect it... Robin Becker wrote: > > In message <38533F75.ECF42C90(a)vt.edu>, Jim Washington <jwashin(a)vt.edu> writes > >Hi, Robin > > > >Now I'm really curious about how to fix this. Could you send me the > >full error traceback? > > > >What version of Zope are you using, OS, etc... > > > >I don't like the idea of putting out products that don't work for some. > > > >-- Jim Washington > > > ... > I am using latest CVS Zope on Win32. > > I could try and download the latest binary and use that. > > I have always been a bit concerned that some 'products' seem to conflict with others. I have > quite a few products installed. > > This is in the lowest frame. > > Zope Error > > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. > > Error Type: NameError > Error Value: user > > Troubleshooting Suggestions > > This resource may be trying to reference a nonexistent object or variable > user. > The URL may be incorrect. > The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. > A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. > > For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source > for this page. > > If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your > patience. > > Traceback (innermost last): > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 179, in publish > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 211, in zpublisher_exception_hook > (Object: CatalogAware) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 165, in publish > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, in mapply > (Object: formframe) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 102, in call_object > (Object: formframe) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\OFS\DTMLMethod.py, line 145, in __call__ > (Object: formframe) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ > (Object: formframe) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Util.py, line 335, in eval > (Object: ChatItemClass_add(_.None, _, NoRedir=1)) > (Info: ChatItemClass_add) > File <string>, line 0, in ? > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\OFS\DTMLMethod.py, line 141, in __call__ > (Object: ChatItemClass_add) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ > (Object: ChatItemClass_add) > File C:\Python\devel\Zope\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Util.py, line 335, in eval > (Object: REQUEST.set('id',dt.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S')+'_'+user)) > (Info: REQUEST) > File <string>, line 0, in ? > NameError: (see above) > > -- > Robin Becker

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RE: [Zope] Versions needed?
by Rob Page 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

Barbara: > I got permission from my web host to install Zope. A couple > of questions: > > They have Solaris 2.7, Zope is for 2.6. Will that make a difference? I don't think so. > They have python 1.5.1. Does that make a difference or > should I ask them to upgrade to 1.5.2? They will do it, but only if I need it. Yes, Zope REQUIRES Python 1.5.2 --Rob

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ZOPE and PHP3
by Wilfried.Trinkl＠maxmobil.at 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

Hi! 1) Can ZOPE be combined with PHP3? What are the difficulties? 2) How can you get knowledge of all the properties of all or upper directories? Is there a data repository for Methods, Properties, etc., which can be browsed through? cu Wilfried

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ImageHelp =1
by ozric 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

I am haveing a problem with images and Zope I get them into Zope but I don't seem to be using the  tag right. I have put the files in a sub folder for the one I am in called graphics. I can do a find from the Zope root folder and get the images back but not from the folder I need them. I did put one in the same fold and it did come up with a <var tag> and I can use an <img scr="graphics/%file_jpg%">. What am I doing wrong here, It must be something simple. Also Can you use ZCatalog to create a searchable image lib ? Any thought on that would be great. Thanks Ozric --

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Re: How to include html pages with dtml-var
by Alexandre Ratti 12 Dec '99

12 Dec '99

Hi Dejan, Take a look at the "Including the contents of an external HTML page" howto (<http://www.zope.org/Members/cba/Get_External/>). Maybe it can help you. Cheers. Alexandre At 12:00 11/12/1999 -0800, you wrote: >From: "Kulpinski, Dejan" <DejanKulpinski(a)Sierrasys.com> >To: "'zope(a)zope.org'" <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: [Zope] How to include html pages with dtml-var >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:37:25 -0800 > >Hello, > >Is is possible (and obviously how) to include html pages from other websites >using dtml-var ? For example, I would like to include mapquest map into my >page without providing explicit link... > >Thanx, > >Dejan Kulpinski

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OFSP/Help problems
by Dr. Ross Lazarus 11 Dec '99

11 Dec '99

Can we please have the help tab back on the management console ? I just worked out that if I go to http://[mysitename]/HelpSys the old help system is indeed still there and working fine in 2.1 (doh!). Given the recent discussion about documentation, the rudimentary but entirely useable helpsys is definitely worth having at the management interface in my view - it seemed to disappear around 1.10 and hasn't been seen since. It's really handy since it seems to offer all sensible doc strings from all products. Maybe a call to reinstantiate the help system after a product is added would be a good thing for 2.2 ? amos latteier <amo-(a)aracnet.com> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/?start=19091 > This is definitely something that we'll have to address before the next > release. BTW, the help system is *not* complete. Just because some of it is > in CVS now doesn't mean it works yet. Thanks for your understanding.

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