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RE: [Zope] Zope and Apache vs ZAP? Which server to use?
by Michel Pelletier 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Kam Cheung [mailto:zope@littlecircle.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 10:58 AM > To: Zope > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope and Apache vs ZAP? Which server to use? > > > >> What's the difference between Zope+Apache and ZAP? Which do > >> you recommend I > >> use? > >> > > > > There's no real difference. Zap is apache. Even if you > compile and use > > your own Apache, however, it is still quite useful to use > Zap's .conf > > file as a template for you own. > > > Isn't Zap's Apache an older version than the current v1.3.6 ? > It is 1.3.4. An update will probably be concurrent with 2.0.0 final. -Michel > > Kam > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] documentation bugs
by Alexander Staubo 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

Just a comment: O'Reilly composes its books in SGML, which is then converted to Groff (GNU Troff) macros, formatted with Groff, and then finally output to PostScript. Something similar might work for us, although I can see how XML would be preferable to fullblown SGML. I'm sure we can build the necessary tools to convert XML to Groff (for paper/PDF version) and to HTML (for electronic version) with relative ease. There are also tools available to convert Groff to HTML. (Ironically though, Groff's manual is written in the texinfo format, not my favourite documentation tool ;-) While raw text editing isn't to be scoffed at, there are commercial XML editors in existence, what about free ones? -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "He could open a tin of sardines with his teeth, strike a Swan Vestas on his chin, rope steers, drive a steam locomotive and hum all the works of Gilbert and Sullivan without becoming confused or breaking down in tears." --Robert Rankin, _The Book of Ultimate Truths_ >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >Michel Pelletier >Sent: 13. juli 1999 21:33 >To: 'bruce(a)perens.com'; Pam Crosby; zope(a)zope.org >Subject: RE: [Zope] documentation bugs > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bruce(a)perens.com [mailto:bruce@perens.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 1:51 PM >> To: bruce(a)perens.com; pam(a)digicool.com; zope(a)zope.org >> Subject: RE: [Zope] documentation bugs >> >> >> From: Pam Crosby <pam(a)digicool.com> >> > Thanks for the note. Could you be more specific as to >> where the errors >> > are? I would be more than happy to fix this. >> >> Pam, >> >> First, you're not going to like this part, but I got two >> replies from people >> pointing out that FrameMaker isn't accessable to your >> volunteer collaborators. >> I concur. You might want to explore options that would make >> it easier for them, >> such as some form of SGML. I haven't used Frame in 5 years >> and thus am not >> familiar with the file formats it can handle. >> > >It can't. ;) > >So I'm going to be working on a rather large Zope documentation project >here pretty soon that is relativly independant of the 'official' >material, and I have a free hand in the creation format. > >My requirements are that it must be an open format, preferably some >subset of SGML, absolutly must run on Linux, and would be nice if it >were cross platform enough to run on Windows (but not an immediate >requirement). It must also publish to paper rather well. > >Does anyone have any suggestions? Currently for the start of the >project I am using lyx and dumping it to LaTeX. I would like to find >something that works like a lyx in terms of its WYSIWYM archetecture. > >-Michel > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] documentation bugs
by Michel Pelletier 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: bruce(a)perens.com [mailto:bruce@perens.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 1:51 PM > To: bruce(a)perens.com; pam(a)digicool.com; zope(a)zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] documentation bugs > > > From: Pam Crosby <pam(a)digicool.com> > > Thanks for the note. Could you be more specific as to > where the errors > > are? I would be more than happy to fix this. > > Pam, > > First, you're not going to like this part, but I got two > replies from people > pointing out that FrameMaker isn't accessable to your > volunteer collaborators. > I concur. You might want to explore options that would make > it easier for them, > such as some form of SGML. I haven't used Frame in 5 years > and thus am not > familiar with the file formats it can handle. > It can't. ;) So I'm going to be working on a rather large Zope documentation project here pretty soon that is relativly independant of the 'official' material, and I have a free hand in the creation format. My requirements are that it must be an open format, preferably some subset of SGML, absolutly must run on Linux, and would be nice if it were cross platform enough to run on Windows (but not an immediate requirement). It must also publish to paper rather well. Does anyone have any suggestions? Currently for the start of the project I am using lyx and dumping it to LaTeX. I would like to find something that works like a lyx in terms of its WYSIWYM archetecture. -Michel

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Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #186 - 49 msgs
by Jason 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

Hey Zopesters, I have large select lists that I need on my site and I was wondering if TinyTables is the best way to do an  tag insertion of all the possible values. It's not quite a uniqueValuesFor situation because there are some values which we don't want available. The list might be about 100-200 or so items long. Is that going to be to slow in a TinyTable? All my best, Jason Spisak webmaster(a)mtear.com

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RE: [Zope] Apache-module
by Andrew M. Kuchling 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

Michel Pelletier writes: >Andrew's implimentation of mod_pcgi can be found at: >ftp://starship.python.net/pub/crew/amk/new/ It's actually got a Web page of its own, now, at: http://www.mems-exchange.org/exchange/software/mod_pcgi/ This will remain its home page for the foreseeable future, and hasn't been announced because I don't have a new code release. Has anyone tried mod_pcgi with Zope2, and replicated the problem listed in the 'Known Bugs' section on that page? -- A.M. Kuchling http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/ Some of it's the voice, and some of it's the hands, and a lot of it's learning to see what you see and not what you think you see, if that makes any sense. -- Hob Gadling, in SANDMAN #53: "Hob's Leviathan"

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[Zope-dev] Re: DCOracle not handling Oracle LONG/LONG RAW datatype
by paulabrams＠yahoo.com 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

I am definately encoutering similar problems, with both updates and selects using ZOracleDA with a LONG. I need to save around 100K of HTML to a LONG in Oracle, but updates fail with the message "identifier too long" and selects fail with the message "IndexError: 1". Oddly enough, if I write a simple testing stub (~1K) both the update and select work fine. Both the table layout and ZSQL code are simplistic. The table only has one LONG, and the ZSQL method attempts to select * and update using "sqlvar" (type=string). Any ideas what might be happening? (Linux Redhat 6; Zope 1.10.3; ZORACLEDA 2.2.0; Oracle 8) Cheers, Paul <19990713092458.a513-(a)sz-sb.de> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/zope/?start=7724 > On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 09:23:20AM -0700, Larry Gwinn wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have been evaluating the DCOracle extension from > > http://www.zope.org/Download/DCOracle/ and have run into an issue when > > querying tables with a LONG or LONG RAW data type and I was wondering if > > anybody else has encountered this problem. If you execute a SQL select > > statement that retrieves from a column that is defined as a LONG or LONG > > RAW datatype, when you perform a fetchone you can only successfully > > retrieve the first row. The next fetchone will cause a "IndexError: 1" > > to occur. This exception is being thrown by the Buffer_item function > > located in the Buffer.c file. > > > I can confirm this behaviour. I always get the following traceback > when I try to access a column of type LONG: > > > Traceback (innermost last): > File "./test.py", line 25, in ? > data = ORA.curs.fetchall() > File "/ojs/home/ojs/tools/python-1.5.2/lib/python1.5/DCOracle/ociCu rs.py", line 351, in fetchall > v=f(1) > File "/ojs/home/ojs/tools/python-1.5.2/lib/python1.5/DCOracle/ociCu rs.py", line 311, in fetchone > if ind[ai] < 0: v=MissingValue > IndexError: 1 > > > Testing env: Solaris 2.6, Oracle 7.3.3.6, DCOracle 1.2.1, Python 1.5.2 > > Cheers, > Andreas > > -- > _\\|//_ > (' O-O ') > ------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------------------- ---------- > Andreas Jung, Saarbrücker Zeitung Verlag und Druckerei GmbH > Saarbrücker Daten-Innovations-Center > Gutenbergstr. 11-23, D-66103 Saarbrücken, Germany > Phone: +49-(0)681-502-1563, Fax: +49-(0)681-502-1509 > Email: ajung(a)sz-sb.de (PGP key available)

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Zope and Apache vs ZAP? Which server to use?
by Philip Suh 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

Ok, I'm installing Zope. My goal is to set up a development environment on my local Linux box, which would then be the basis of a live production environment on another box, to be placed at an ISP. So basically, while I have a little time to learn, I want to learn in the setup that makes the most sense when I take the site live. The site is a commercial website with roughly 8-10 templates and maybe 350 pages of content, which will grow every week by at least 10 pages. (Obviously, I'm thinking in non-Zope terms). Anyway, which server should I use? I'm guessing the Zope Server is not what I want. What's the difference between Zope+Apache and ZAP? Which do you recommend I use? Thanks again, Phil who one day will stop spamming you all ;-)

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FYI: Zope 1.10.3 RPMs in Redhat contrib
by Itamar S.-T. 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

I just noticed some nice soul uploaded Zope 1.10.3 RPMS to the Redhat libc6 contrib, for those of you who want an easy install. -- Itamar - itamars(a)ibm.net ----------------------------o----------------------------------------------o Sealingwax Greeting Cards | Trust? Ha! The US dollar is backed by ICBMs! | http://www.sealingwax.com | --Anonymous Coward, Slashdot |

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RE: [Zope] Zope and Apache vs ZAP? Which server to use?
by Michel Pelletier 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Suh [mailto:phil@organic.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 1:57 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Zope and Apache vs ZAP? Which server to use? > > > > Ok, I'm installing Zope. > > My goal is to set up a development environment on my local > Linux box, which > would then be the basis of a live production environment on > another box, to > be placed at an ISP. > > So basically, while I have a little time to learn, I want to > learn in the > setup that makes the most sense when I take the site live. > > The site is a commercial website with roughly 8-10 templates > and maybe 350 > pages of content, which will grow every week by at least 10 pages. > (Obviously, I'm thinking in non-Zope terms). > > Anyway, which server should I use? > > I'm guessing the Zope Server is not what I want. Sure it is. ZServer does not mean you can't use Apache. In fact, I would recommend using Apache to talk to ZServer using PCGI. This is how we run the digicool site and our top secret internal zope site overhall. I don't understand in your subject line bout Apache vs Zap, because Zap *is* apache. Zap is our preconfigured and pre-setup Apache binary for Linux that can be dropped right into Zope. I think you might be a bit confused about what your publishing options are. First, Zope is not a web server, it is an object publisher which can publish over any protocol and happens to come with a bunch of really cool objects and a managment interface to deal with them. The most common protocol to publish these objects over is HTTP. To dothis, you can use any webserver which supports CGI. This includes Apache. Zope comes with its own general purpose server called ZServer. You do not need to use ZServer to use Zope, however for Zope 2.0.0 is is pretty highly recommended. but ZServer is really friendly, it can currently publish Zope in two transport protcols, HTTP and FTP, by listening directly on any TCP port you specify. It can also publish Zope in the PCGI protcol, which lets it talk to Apache. So, ZServer can listen on port 80 for incomming HTTP requests, or you can set up Apache to listen on port 80 for incomming HTTP requests and then channel those requests to ZServer over PCGI. You can even have ZServer listen on one HTTP port and Apache listen on another HTTP port, and both publish the same Zope. I have to admit that this is really poorly documented in the WEBSERVER.txt file. In fact, I'm going to rewrite that file right now. > > What's the difference between Zope+Apache and ZAP? Which do > you recommend I > use? > There's no real difference. Zap is apache. Even if you compile and use your own Apache, however, it is still quite useful to use Zap's .conf file as a template for you own. -Michel > Thanks again, > > Phil > who one day will stop spamming you all ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, > zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] documentation bugs
by Alexander Staubo 13 Jul '99

13 Jul '99

>> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alexander Staubo [mailto:alex@mop.no] >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 5:58 PM >> To: Zope Mailing List (E-mail); bruce(a)perens.com >> Subject: RE: [Zope] documentation bugs >> >> >> Which raises the issue of whether perhaps -- as much as it's an >> excellent tool for documentation -- FrameMaker is the ideal >> tool to use >> here. Other formats (XML/SGML, TeX) come to mind that are >> better suited >> for the collaborative environment of an open-source project. >> > >I don't like Frame because I can't run it on my computer, but to quote >Jim, the problem with out documentation isn't what tool it's >written in, >but the quality and quantity. Essentially true in a closed environment. In an Open Source(TM) community effort, using closed, proprietary tools really bogs down development. I've seen lots of spelling errors or sheer mistakes. If I could have submitted patches, I would have. >Granted a more 'cross-platform' tool would be better in my opinion, and >also one which followed a more open format. I'm going to be looking >into some XML stuff for an upcomming documentation project, a side >effect of which might be implimented here. > >I have a lot of time put into lyx (WYSIMYM TeX editor for Linux) and I >find it quite usable, but it's image handling is pretty poor, and it >also is not cross platform the other way... many people here use >Windows, or MacOS, on their desks to client into our Linux and Solaris >servers. > >-Michel > >> -- >> Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ >> "He could open a tin of sardines with his teeth, strike a Swan Vestas >> on his chin, rope steers, drive a steam locomotive and hum all the >> works of Gilbert and Sullivan without becoming confused or breaking >> down in tears." >> --Robert Rankin, _The Book of Ultimate Truths_ >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >> >bruce(a)perens.com >> >Sent: 12. juli 1999 23:37 >> >To: zope(a)zope.org >> >Subject: [Zope] documentation bugs >> > >> > >> >I was about to send a patch for spelling errors in the content >> >manager's >> >guide, but then I realized that the original was written in >> >FrameMaker and >> >isn't accessable to me. Someone definitely has to push the >> spell-check >> >button on these pages. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Bruce >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> > >> >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >> >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> >> (For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >> zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >

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