July 2001 - Zope - Zope lists

Trying to use Vim for remote editing with Zope
by Jean Jordaan 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi all I tried out Vim 6 with the 'netrw.vim' plugin to edit files remotely. It works beautifully for editing via ftp, but I did hit a snag .. I want to use it for editing Zope objects. Zope supports this via both ftp and WebDAV. (To support WebDAV from Vim, maybe the 'cadaver' commandline WebDAV client would be useful http://www.webdav.org/cadaver/ ). Anyway, so I do: :e ftp://blommie:10021/standard_html_header edit a document, and save successfully. This is the trace of the successful save in my log: 192.168.3.44357 ==> 220 blommie FTP server (Medusa Async V1.13 [experimental]) ready. 192.168.3.44357 <== USER jean 192.168.3.44357 ==> 331 Password required. 192.168.3.44357 <== PASS <password> 192.168.3.44357 ==> 230 Login successful. 192.168.3.44357 <== TYPE A 192.168.3.44357 ==> 200 Type set to ASCII. 192.168.3.44357 <== PORT 192,168,3,4,17,6 192.168.3.44357 ==> 200 PORT command successful. 192.168.3.44357 <== STOR standard_html_header 192.168.3.44357 ==> 150 Opening ASCII connection for standard_html_header 192.168.3.44357 ==> 226 Transfer complete. 192.168.3.44357 <== QUIT 192.168.3.44357 ==> 221 Goodbye. Then I try to edit a Python script, which is handled a bit differently by Zope: the file returned by ftp starts with a magic comment block which contains the script properties. This is parsed by Zope upon upload. However, this should all be transparent from the ftp point of view. Unfortunately this is not the case: 192.168.3.44395 ==> 220 blommie FTP server (Medusa Async V1.13 [experimental]) ready. 192.168.3.44395 <== USER jean 192.168.3.44395 ==> 331 Password required. 192.168.3.44395 <== PASS <password> 192.168.3.44395 ==> 230 Login successful. 192.168.3.44395 <== TYPE A 192.168.3.44395 ==> 200 Type set to ASCII. 192.168.3.44395 <== PORT 192,168,3,4,17,44 192.168.3.44395 ==> 200 PORT command successful. 192.168.3.44395 <== STOR feko_usa/interface/findUser 192.168.3.44395 ==> 150 Opening ASCII connection for feko_usa/interface/findUser 192.168.3.44395 ==> 426 Error creating file. 192.168.3.44395 <== QUIT 192.168.3.44395 ==> 221 Goodbye. I've also tried (successfully, in the end) with this Vim/Python combination: http://www.zope.org/Members/zxc/vimFTPExplorer which is based on: http://www.freespeech.org/aziz/vim/ which is included in the Vim 6 distribution. In that case, the fix was to change from ASCII-mode transfer to Binary, but that happened in Python: [jean@blommie vim]$ diff ftpExplorer.vim patched-ftpExplorer.vim 144a145,146 > bufname=vim.current.buffer.name > vim.command('echo "Current buffer: %s"' %bufname) 158c160 < ftp.storlines('stor %s' %filename, fi) --- > ftp.storbinary('stor %s' %filename, fi, 8192) I did change 'netrw.vim' to transfer in binary mode, but it didn't help: 192.168.3.44399 ==> 220 blommie FTP server (Medusa Async V1.13 [experimental]) ready. 192.168.3.44399 <== USER jean 192.168.3.44399 ==> 331 Password required. 192.168.3.44399 <== PASS <password> 192.168.3.44399 ==> 230 Login successful. 192.168.3.44399 <== TYPE I 192.168.3.44399 ==> 200 Type set to Binary. 192.168.3.44399 <== PORT 192,168,3,4,17,48 192.168.3.44399 ==> 200 PORT command successful. 192.168.3.44399 <== STOR feko_usa/interface/findUser 192.168.3.44399 ==> 150 Opening Binary connection for feko_usa/interface/findUser 192.168.3.44399 ==> 426 Error creating file. 192.168.3.44399 <== QUIT 192.168.3.44399 ==> 221 Goodbye. Any clues as to how to make everything work? Any chance of making 'explorer.vim' and 'netrw.vim' work transparently together? Regards, Jean

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FW: [Zope] Using Zope
by Todd Cranston-Cuebas 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Joel, Can you define what you mean by "structured text?" I'm always running into situations where I don't want to give someone any control other than control over the copy. They want to put in bolding, italics, etc., but beyond that I don't want to let them do anything else. Will structured text do the trick and if so, how does one implement this? Todd -----Original Message----- From: Joel Burton [mailto:jburton@scw.org] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:47 PM To: Jen Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Using Zope On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Jen wrote: > > Hello: > > I've been given the task of exploring the use of Zope for a department that we support. I have just been going through some of the manuals and online documentation. The creation of pages seems very basic and understandable from my viewpoint. However, the material I have found doesn't seem to address the use of Zope by non-HTML/basic scripting literate people (or at least how to develope a framework for non-web literate people to use). The department that we have in mind couldn't tell a <p> tag from an <ol> tag. They have only ever used a WYSIWYG interface. My question is, does anyone know where I can find information or a "tutorial" on how to create a framework like this? So that your average secretary can just update the actual text of the page much like in a WYSIWYG editor fashion? Or are we better suited by a different product? Two different scenarios: * Zope can upload/download document via WebDAV and FTP, and there are free add-ins that will let someone design a web page in FrontPage or DreamWeaver, and once it's added (via these program's FTP/WebDav interface), sets it up correctly. or * Zope can use "structured-text", which is a way for non-HTML-designers to make simple pages. They don't have to know anything about HTML to do so. You can't design a complicated web page w/lots of formatting, images, etc. w/structured text, but it's perfect for users to enter descriptions, biographies, etc., while still getting to bold text, italicize text, make lists, etc. > Thank you! > > Jenny You're welcome. Have a nice evaluation. Zope is very very sweet. -- Joel Burton <jburton(a)scw.org> Director of Information Systems, Support Center of Washington _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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VirtualSite/SiteRoot
by Jason C. Leach 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

hi, I have a few virtual sites on one Zope server w/ Apache in front. I some times end up with: www.mysite.com/sitedocs/sitedocs/sitedocs/.. It just keeps appending a sitedocs for some things I do on the site. The site works, no matter how many get appended, but to a user it probably looks redundant and convoluted. Any comments on how to stop Apache or Zope for doing this? Thanks, j. -- ...................... ..... Jason C. Leach ..

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RE: [Zope] Berlin Pix
by Farrell, Troy 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Well, we know why you posted the link: You're in most of the pictures :) Is ChrisW Mr. Withers? Who took these pics? It's interesting to put faces with posts and software. I like http://adequat.c2a.fr/presentation/ZopeBerlin?slide_index:int=47 and http://adequat.c2a.fr/presentation/ZopeBerlin?slide_index:int=51 Troy -----Original Message----- From: Noa Harvey [mailto:noa@adequat.net] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:58 AM To: zope(a)zope.org; eurozope(a)comlounge.net Subject: [Zope] Berlin Pix Hello, We posted the pictures Luc Stepniewski took at the EuroZope conf in Berlin, you can see them at: http://adequat.c2a.fr/presentation/ZopeBerlin _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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RE: [Zope] FYI: DC -> ZC, plus 2.4 released
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

I think that might be an overstatement; yes, its slick and promotional, but I found that the new zope.com site has lots of useful stuff from the perspective of selling management on Zope, which is useful to some folks like myself - well, that and the Zope T-Shirts I'm going to try to pick up at OSCON ;) Sean -----Original Message----- From: Ausum [mailto:augusto@artlover.com] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:43 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] FYI: DC -> ZC, plus 2.4 released Gosh! Big difference between Zope dot org and dot com. The first one says "Come on, join us and have fun (whether you have the guts)". The last one says: "Now, prepare yourself to get charged" ;) Ausum magnus/Websys(a)websys.no wrote: >>There's a new site at www.zope.com that reflects the change. I expected >>to tell the Zope list on Friday, but we're still sorting through some >>font issues. :^( >> > > The name change makes sense. The new Zope release looks good. But > what are > the guys with ties doing on zope.com? I dunno, Martijn Faassen asked for them. :^) --Paul _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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How to avoid the inheritance of DTMLDocuments?
by Philipp Robbel 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi everyone, I've run into a problem. I originally thought that only DTMLMethods would be inherited over the directory structure, i.e. a index_html method in the root folder would be available in the subfolders. But now I have the following problem that also DTMLDocuments are inherited! This destroys a bit my application logic, as outlined below: The customers have there own subfolder on the Zope Server where they can upload their HTML (!) documents. In the Zope root folder I have the following DTMLMethod index_html which is supposed to be inherited to the customer's subfolder: <dtml-if index.html><dtml-var index.html><dtml-elif index.htm><dtml-var index.htm><dtml-else><dtml-var header>The <dtml-var "title_or_id()"> site is not yet available.<dtml-var footer></dtml-if> The problem is however that the index.htm DTMLDocument (!) is also inherited to the customer's subfolder so that the "The site is not yet available" part is never executed :-( Is there a switch to avoid the inheritance of DTMLDocuments to a specific folder (i.e. in my case there's /pool/empl1, /pool/empl2 etc.) that i could set in the /pool folder in my case? Thanks again for your help and support, Philipp

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HTMLDocument and CatalogAwareness
by Philipp Robbel 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi fellow Zopers, I have one question regarding the CatalogAwareness of sf's HTMLDocument product ( http://www.zope.org/Members/sf/HTMLDocument) As I have checked this Program, it supports Zope's ZCatalog. But I have a major Problem with it: if you create a HTMLDocument and change it afterwards, the catalog does not get updated with the changed data. In contrary to the DTMLDocumentExt product ( http://www.zope.org/Members/Kaivo/DTMLDocumentExt) which does this job very well. Since I'm not that good python programmer I would love it if someone could implement that complete Catalog Support into HTMLDocument. I already wrote two Emails to the creator but so far he has not answered. So again: if there's someone out there who could quickly browse through the source and make a solution public, I'd love to hear from it :-) Thanks in advance for your incredible support, Philipp Robbel

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RE: Netscape doesn't recognize dtml-doc as html
by Ausum 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

You don't need to do anything, except to ensure yourself that your html is right. That means at least to have the 'html' and 'body' tags placed properly within your header/footer, if you use them. (Actually I don't need to do this, except for the embeded javascript to work) Now, if what you want is to show off the dtml instead of rendering it (an entirely different thing), you must use PrincipiaSearchSource: Place at the root a dtml method with id 'show_source' containing the following line: <dtml-var PrincipiaSearchSource html_quote > Now, to see the source of any dtml, you use: http://www.website.com/some_dtml/show_source Notice you need to have the right permission. Ausum

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Manager Header
by Chris Bruce 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

I read somewhere that there is a management header. I created a custom form for adding properties and I want to include the correct header. Can anyone tell me what it is? Thanks, Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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Using DOracle2 to execute a package procedure returning a REF CUR SOR
by Ernst Eeldert 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hey, I've read the docs, search the mailing list archives, but can't find a clear answer to the problem stated in the subject of this message. Any gurus around ? TIA Ernst

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