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Re: [Zope] is DTML a www standard?
by rlanham＠speakeasy.net 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

And a Python for ASP'ers HOWTO/Rosetta, too...please. > ------------ Original Message ----------- > From: Luciano Ramalho <luciano(a)hiper.com.br> > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:43:25 -0300 > > > > Alan Capesius wrote: > > > I much prefer my_string[:3], my_string[2:], my_string[2:5] than having > > > to remember the names and parameters of three diferent functions. On > the > > > > Good, good. > > But now try to find a ready reference to this kind of syntax and > > implementing it under Zope without learning Python first and you will > see > > the fundamental problem a newbie to Zope encounters. > > You are completely right. That's why whenever we give Zope training, > even to designers, we always include a couple of hours of "instrumental > Python". Maybe we should create a "Python for Zopers How-to"... > > Regards, > > Luciano > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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ZCatalog resources
by complaw＠hal-pc.org 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Is there a good resource for ZCatalog issues. I've tried Chapter 9 of the Zope book, but only get the result if they have because they have only two objects. My experience with the ZCatalog is that it returns far too many objects, the vast majority of which do not satsify the criteria. When I ask for the first set, it returns a correct result. However, changing the criteria and resubmitting (by going back, chaning the criteria, and resubmitting) gives me the exact same (overly large) result set which now does NOT fit the search criteria. I need a catalog but don't want to roll it out to users if I can't get it to work correctly. Is there some nice neat resource that explains how to get the ZCatalog to do one's bidding (or tell me what I'm doing wrong). Cheers, Ron

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is DTML a www standard?
by B.N.V. Raman 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Hi, I'm new to zope, and was just wondering if DTML is used by other applications and if DTML is a web standard or not... Thanks, Raman.

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RE: [Zope] ZCatalog resources
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

I would think that the best way to debug your problem is to include <dtml-var REQUEST> at the bottom of your results page, below the </dtml-in> tag... That way, you can see what the form values are. ZCatalog just looks at the REQUEST namespace for submitted form values, and uses them as searches on it's indexes. So, for example, one of my applications has a method that renders some "weighted" search text for the search engine (ZCatalog) to index - my method is called "searchTextWeighted," and it outputs the text I want indexed. There is an index added to ZCatalog's index tab for "searchTextWeighted" as a TextIndex so that I can have the results indexed, and when I pass the full query in a GET or POST form value with the name of searchTextWeighted, it seems to work. A lot of getting the search set up the way you want might involve a bit of trial-and-error, some reading, patience, and some questions to the list; I'm sure you'll get it working the way you want eventually; that's the approach that I have had to take. Perhaps when I am all done with my current project (which is very search-intensive), I will write a howto... Sean -----Original Message----- From: Ronald.Chichester(a)bakerbotts.com [mailto:Ronald.Chichester@bakerbotts.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:50 AM To: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com Subject: RE: [Zope] ZCatalog resources Sean: I guess I'm having more fundamental trouble than I first thought. I added a ZCatalog to a folder and indexed it. In the process, it created a Report and a Search file. To test it, I input a search term (single word) into the principa field. It returned quite a few hits that seemed reasonable for the (broad or common) term that I used. Then I went back to the search form and took out the broad word and put in another word that should have returned a much narrower result set. Instead, it gave me the exact same result set, even though I knew for a fact that many of the items returned did not contain the new search term. Something is clearly not right. Thanks for the information below, however. Once I get a working ZCatalog, I'll put your tips to good use. Incidentally, how did you learn all these tips about the ZCatalog? Best wishes, Ron -----Original Message----- From: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com [mailto:sean.upton@uniontrib.com] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 6:03 PM To: complaw(a)hal-pc.org Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] ZCatalog resources I am supposing that you are trying to search on one 'field' or mass of text; what I am about to say would require a bit of modification and re-thought if you were to combine searches on multiple fields (well, that is, if you need cross-field OR searching; AND is already a de-facto reality across fields). How is it that you are "revising" the search? I'm supposing that you are taking the original search, and combining the query verbatim with the modifications, like: originalquery + ' ' + modifications Doing this (at least in Zope 2.3.x, I think) should result in an implicit "AND" and limit the first set, but I think you need to gratuitously use parentheses. For example, in an classified ad application I have developed using ZCatalog, there are lots of job entries for engineers, but I want to modify it to only see something like environmental engineer jobs: Suppose the original query is "engineer*" - also suppose that I want to append a limiting term like "environment*" - I would rewrite the query string for the textIndex I am searching to look like: (engineer*) AND (environment*) This limits 83 items in my test example to 6 matches. and suppose, then, that I was looking for something in the Navy: ((environment*) AND (engineer*)) AND (naval) This limits 6 items in my test example to 1 match. All the extra parentheses don't seem to hurt, and seem to be necessary, to some extent. So, I guess, if you are trying to do limiting searches, you are going to have to have some code that rewrites your query text, every time wrapping your original search in parentheses and appending an AND and the new terms. The python code for this might look like: newquery='(' + oldquery + ') AND (' + newquery + ')' Then pass newquery as a form value for the index you are trying to search using your form doing a <dtml-in Catalog>. Good luck, Sean -----Original Message----- From: complaw(a)hal-pc.org [mailto:complaw@hal-pc.org] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:29 PM To: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com Cc: zope(a)zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] ZCatalog resources > Perhaps you can be more specific about your problems. I suppose you are > working with Text Indexes? What sorts of indexes and queries are you trying > to set up; and on what sorts of datatypes? I'm sure that I (and possbily > others on the list) would be able to help guide you in your set up of the > indexes you need in a manner that suits your search case. Thanks Sean. First, I've had no problem installing or indexing. The problems come with searching for specific content. It seems that the first search returns a seemingly correct result set (meaning that the list in the result set had the criteria). However, when I revised the criteria (either to narrow the result set, or to get a completely different result set) I got the original (first) result set instead. Any change in criteria yielded the same (large) result set. Have you had that problem? Ron > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: complaw(a)hal-pc.org [mailto:complaw@hal-pc.org] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:16 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog resources > > > Is there a good resource for ZCatalog issues. I've tried Chapter 9 of the > Zope > book, but only get the result if they have because they have only two > objects. > > My experience with the ZCatalog is that it returns far too many objects, the > vast majority of which do not satsify the criteria. When I ask for the > first > set, it returns a correct result. However, changing the criteria and > resubmitting (by going back, chaning the criteria, and resubmitting) gives > me > the exact same (overly large) result set which now does NOT fit the search > criteria. I need a catalog but don't want to roll it out to users if I > can't > get it to work correctly. > > Is there some nice neat resource that explains how to get the ZCatalog to do > one's bidding (or tell me what I'm doing wrong). > > Cheers, > > Ron > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] pdf files dont work ??
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Are you running Apache or a proxy in front of Zope? It might be a "byte-serving" issue. For example, byte-serving (serving between byte offsets, or a page-at-a-time to acrobat reader) is implemented by Apache > 1.3.9 (I think), but is broken in 1.3.14, and fixed by 1.3.19... Anyway, I've seen this kind of problem before... Sean -----Original Message----- From: zope-mailinglist [mailto:zope-mailinglist@mopa.at] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:57 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] pdf files dont work ?? Kyler B. Laird wrote: >On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:55:10 +0200 you wrote: > >>the browser loads something but it doesnt start acrobat reader, it >>displays an empty window >>i set the content_type to "application/pdf" >> > >I have not experienced this. I suggest trying the >same URL with a simple client (lynx/GET) so that >you can get the data to a file for examination. > >>i read somewhere that the id has to end with .pdf - so that acrobat >>checks the file - but this wasnt the problem >> > >This I have experienced. The problem is that the >dumb clients aren't configured correctly. The >behavior is different, though. The client should >pop up a warning saying it doesn't know what to do >with application/pdf. > >>is it possible, that the files are too big or corrupted ?? >> > >Download to a file and check. > >>would it be better to store such files in the filesystem instead in zodb ?? >> > >I have handled large PDF files from the ZODB. >They should be no different than any other static >content (unless you're trying to use byte-range >serving). > >--kyler > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > i downloaded the pdfs to a file - it works this way it seems that its an adobe acrobat issue ?? _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Problem w/ form writing to database
by Terry McKenna 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

I am trying to build a Help Desk Trouble Ticket tracking system. I want to use a web based form to allow customers to enter trouble tickets. The problem I am having is that when I submit the form, the zope development environment pulls up its native database "test" form instead of making an entry in the database. It seems I can only enter data to my external database through the Zope "test" form. Any ideas? --------------------------------------------------- "submitTicket" method: <form action="troubleTicket/newTicket" method="get"> <table> <tr> <th align=right>Name: <td><input type="text" name="name" size=32> <tr> <th align=right>Phone: <td><input type="text" name="phone" size=10> <tr> <th align=right>E-Mail: <td><input type="text" name"email" size=32> <tr> <th aligh=right>App: <td><select name="app"> <option>N/A <option>Servie Inquiry <option>Idea DataMart <option>Siebel Smart Serve <option>S4 Operations </select> <tr> <th aligh=right>Server: <td><select name="server"> <option>N/A <option>caycom3 <option>caycom4 <option>caydec1 <option>caydec2 <option>cosclim1 <option>cossi01 <option>cspcom1 <option>cspcom2 <option>cspsie05 <option>norsi01 <option>omzdie06 <option>omzsie07 <option>omzsie09 <option>s4reports <option>system2 </select> <tr> <th align=right>Priority: <td><select name="pri"> <option>4 <option>3 <option>2 <option>1 </select> </table> <table> <tr> <td> 1 = 1 hr response <tr> <td> 2 = 4 hr response <tr> <td> 3 = 24 hr response <tr> <td> 4 = 72 hr response </table> <p><h4>Description of Problem:</h4> <textarea name="description" cols="37" rows="5"> </textarea> <p><input type="submit" name="submit" value=" Submit " </form> --------------------------------------------------------------- Z SQL method "newTicket": insert into ticket3 values (<dtml-sqlvar ticketNum type="int" optional>, <dtml-sqlvar name type="string">, <dtml-sqlvar phone type="string">, <dtml-sqlvar email type="string">, <dtml-sqlvar app type="string">, <dtml-sqlvar server type="string">, <dtml-sqlvar priority type="int">, <dtml-sqlvar problem type="string">) -------------------------------------------------------------- submitTicket calls newTicket. I think submitTicket passes the values entered by the user on the form to newTicket. I thought that should be enough for NewTicket to make an entry in the database but the Zope "test" interface populates the screen when I hit submit. -Thanks in advance. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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New ZCatalog Error ?
by Francois-regis Chalaoux 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Hi, Trying to use a ZCatalog to catalog a folder containig different types of document I found the an error. I would like to stress that this error come from a DTML Method (named summary) and that this method is not call by any DTML Document I want to catalog !!! Yes, I just want to catalog DTML Documents (as I choosed in Find Objects menu) not the DTML Method !!! I reproduced this error on Zope 2.3.(2 and 3) and Zope 2.4b3 I saw this type of errors in the mailing list before Zope 2.4b3 but the problem seems to persist if it is. Bye, FR. Here is the summary method ========================== <dtml-with "PARENTS[0]"> <dtml-in "mRNA.report.objectValues('DTML Document')"> <dtml-if "title=='summary'"> <dtml-var sequence-item> </dtml-if> </dtml-in> </dtml-with> Here is the Zope Error =================== <h2>Zope Error</h2> <p>Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.</p> <p> <strong>Error Type: NameError</strong><br> <strong>Error Value: global name 'PARENTS' is not defined</strong><br> </p> <hr noshade> <p>Troubleshooting Suggestions</p> <ul> <li>This resource may be trying to reference a nonexistent object or variable <strong>global name 'PARENTS' is not defined</strong>.</li> <li>The URL may be incorrect.</li> <li>The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.</li> <li>A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.</li> </ul> <p>For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source for this page. </p> <p>If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. </p> </td></tr> </table> </BODY></HTML>

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Fw: [Zope] pdf files dont work ??
by David Burton 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

My guess is that this is likely to be an Acrobat Reader issue. My company recently had problems with this kind of thing happening, and it only happened on some machines. The solution was to download the latest version of the Acrobat Reader and install that, and this fixed the problem. This was with files served from a CGI application, but nothing to do with ZOPE. HTH, David Burton, (david(a)emotion.co.uk) ----- Original Message ----- From: "zope-mailinglist" <zope-mailinglist(a)mopa.at> To: <zope(a)zope.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] pdf files dont work ?? > Kyler B. Laird wrote: > > >On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:55:10 +0200 you wrote: > > > >>the browser loads something but it doesnt start acrobat reader, it > >>displays an empty window > >>i set the content_type to "application/pdf" > >> > > > >I have not experienced this. I suggest trying the > >same URL with a simple client (lynx/GET) so that > >you can get the data to a file for examination. > > > >>i read somewhere that the id has to end with .pdf - so that acrobat > >>checks the file - but this wasnt the problem > >> > > > >This I have experienced. The problem is that the > >dumb clients aren't configured correctly. The > >behavior is different, though. The client should > >pop up a warning saying it doesn't know what to do > >with application/pdf. > > > >>is it possible, that the files are too big or corrupted ?? > >> > > > >Download to a file and check. > > > >>would it be better to store such files in the filesystem instead in zodb ?? > >> > > > >I have handled large PDF files from the ZODB. > >They should be no different than any other static > >content (unless you're trying to use byte-range > >serving). > > > >--kyler > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > >(Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > i downloaded the pdfs to a file - it works this way > it seems that its an adobe acrobat issue > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Toronto Opportunity
by Robert Fabian 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Toronto Opportunity I'm a Board Member of the Toronto Section of the Canadian Information Processing Society. We have a classic web content management problem. We need to find a practical way to give our members controlled access to web content in areas of their responsibility. For example, our events coordinator needs to be able to establish a new event and provide all relevant content. Subject to a simple approval process, this content should automatically populate the appropriate parts of our site. The Zope Content Management Framework would seem to be a good fit for our needs. BUT, we need professional help to get us started. Ideally, this would be a knowledgeable Zope professional based in the Greater Toronto Area who is interested and available. If you feel that you may have part, or all, of what we need, please contact me. Thanks Bob Fabian --- Robert Fabian Associates 416 769 1885 http://rfabian.com e-Technology Institute, Seneca College, http://SenecaInstitute.com

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Toronto Opportunity
by Robert Fabian 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Toronto Opportunity I'm a Board Member of the Toronto Section of the Canadian Information Processing Society. We have a classic web content management problem. We need to find a practical way to give our members controlled access to web content in areas of their responsibility. For example, our events coordinator needs to be able to establish a new event and provide all relevant content. Subject to a simple approval process, this content should automatically populate the appropriate parts of our site. The Zope Content Management Framework would seem to be a good fit for our needs. BUT, we need professional help to get us started. Ideally, this would be a knowledgeable Zope professional based in the Greater Toronto Area who is interested and available. If you feel that you may have part, or all, of what we need, please contact me. Thanks Bob Fabian --- Robert Fabian Associates 416 769 1885 http://rfabian.com e-Technology Institute, Seneca College, http://SenecaInstitute.com

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