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RE: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers
by Farrell, Troy 21 May '01

21 May '01

Ouch! You hit close to home there. Yep. I'd pay. I spend enough time in the ZMI that I'm busy developing my own hotfixes for the interface to make it workable. Zope *badly* needs an IDE, but not too many are willing to devote the time to it (myself included). It needs to have source available (so I can do my own bugfixes). I'm really liking Zope's hotfix-ability, so that would be a niceity for the IDE. I don't mind it being based on Mozilla, but it should be a new one. Mozilla offers the ability to do HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP outta the box, so that's a start already. I could probably pull off buying it at work. If it is good, I'd probably buy a personal copy and hope there wasn't a $100/year upgrade tax. Still, it's gotta have the source (ie Debian: For the militantly free :) Conclusion: 1) Gotta be Free software. 2) Should run on every platform that zope does. 3) Should offer HTTP, HTTPS (not optional in my environment), XML-RPC (optional) and ZEO (for speed) access to the server. Even cooler, run a ZEO connection over ssh. Troy -----Original Message----- From: Paul Everitt [mailto:paul@digicool.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:23 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers Howdy folks. AndyM is running a poll over at ZopeZen: http://www.zopezen.org/ (Look at the bottom of the left margin) < spoiler warning> Before reading the rest of this message, please vote. I don't want to bias your response. And don't peek at the results before you vote! </spoiler warning> OK, on to the discussion. Are those numbers *really* accurate? I gotta admit, though I've had a soft spot in my heart for the Zope Studio thing, I'm stunned that it would be in front. Much less so *far* in front. Are these results an accurate reading of the sentiments -- that given the list of choices Andy presented, a Zope Studio is so much more popular than those choices!?! Wow. Let's try a different tack. Pretend there was a for-free Zope Studio and a for-fee Zope Studio. Let's say the difference was either like ActiveState's difference (personal use vs. professional use), or say the difference was in "Professional" capabilities. Does anyone think there would be any moderate-sized market for a for-fee version? How many of you would pay a few hundred bucks for a high-quality dev/authoring/admin environment for Zope? --Paul _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Setting user when debugging
by Bernie Simon 21 May '01

21 May '01

When I ran Zope under the Python debugger, I was logged in as 'Anonymous User'. What python command should I run to change to another user? -- Bernie Simon Solving yesterday's problems tomorrow

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RE: [Zope] Disabling anonymous webdav access
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 21 May '01

21 May '01

Are WebDAV requests HTTP GET requests? Or are they PUT? I ask because there might be a way to filter public access with a reverse-proxy to certain URLs (with, for example, a Squid redirector). Whether or not this kind of thing would work for certain types of WebDAV traffic, such as viewing folder contents, depends on the anatomy of a WebDAV request... Thoughts? Sean -----Original Message----- From: Jerome Alet [mailto:alet@unice.fr] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:36 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Disabling anonymous webdav access On Fri, 18 May 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote: > Ivo), I propose that it default to "Manager, Anonymous" so that > current behavior is preserved. In other words, I think it is > better that sites continue to work exactly as before after the > change (but that the manager can then go turn off anonymous > DAV access), rather than have sites suddenly "stop working with > WebDAV" until the manager goes and gives anonymous that > permission. > > Thoughts? Here's mine, for a future version of Zope: What would be nice is an installation/launching option for Zope's security to be set to maximum security by default, i.e. anonymous wouldn't even have the View permission by default, and the admin would have to manually set the anonymous permissions. kind of like the ALL: PARANOID in /etc/hosts.deny and and no hosts.allow file. What would be even better is that such a thing doesn't appear in Zope before I understand completely how the permission system really work ;-) bye, Jerome Alet _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] Calculating how long time a user spends on a page
by Frank Tegtmeyer 21 May '01

21 May '01

Gitte Wange <gitte(a)mmmanager.org> writes: > So that is a specialized application (sort to speak). > Is this ehat you were thinking about ??? If it's the standard plug-in, then not. What I meant is an application that does report the use of the video stream back to the streaming server. This report must be bound to something that identifies the user. The standard Realplayer does not do something like that, I think. If it does, fine - but then it's not a Zope problem :) For tracking users have a look at the CoreSession product. You may build a custom authorization solution with it. Regards, Frank

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RE: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers
by Max Møller Rasmussen 21 May '01

21 May '01

> From: magnus/Websys(a)websys.no [mailto:magnus/Websys@websys.no] > .. and let's call it Usenet! Theres nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel. Car manufacters does it all the time. Oh and we probably should call it uZenet :-) Max M

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RE: [Zope] Q: Verifying the poll numbers
by Max Møller Rasmussen 21 May '01

21 May '01

> From: luke tymowski [mailto:luke@seeto.com] > > Oh yes ... and a smart way to syndicate stuff. > > It ought to be easy to be a syndicator of both articles and > comments, so > > that articles and comments from several sites will be synchronized > > automagically. > > That would be RSS. > http://www.webreference.com/authoring/languages/xml/rss/1/ Yes and no ... I am talking about being able to synchronize two sites, or just parts of them automatically, and I think that it needs to be more flexible than RSS. What I want is that if I write an article on my site, my site will call other sites that has me in a "syndication list", and then they will somehow decide whether they want to publish my article. If they do want to publish it my site will be notified. When somebody writes a comment on my site it will automatically be sent on to the sites syndicating the article. When somebody writes a comment on a site syndicating my article it will be sent to my site, that will then send it on to other syndicatés and so forth. That way it will not matter which site you post an article or a comment to they will all be synchronized. Imagine if all Zope sites could do that. That would be very powerfull for special interrest groups where each local group or individual could have their own site, and they could automatically publish the content of their own or other like minded persons/groups and vice versa. regards Max M

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Apache ProxyPass and VirtualHostMonster
by Timothy Wilson 21 May '01

21 May '01

Hi everyone, I'm trying to get virtual hosting going with a VirtualHostMonster. I use Apache and ProxyPass like this for the root of my site (with a SiteRoot): <VirtualHost 111.222.333.444> ServerName foo.org ProxyPass / http://localhost:8080/ ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8080/ ProxyPass /misc_ http://localhost:8080/misc_ ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:8080/p_ </VirtualHost> I've created a VirtualHostMonster in the root of my Zope, and now I'd like to make a subfolder into a virtual host. For example, I want /spam to be at spam.foo.org. If I have the following configuration, I see my site at spam.foo.org, but spam.foo.org/manage gives a traceback and a "Resource not found" error. <VirtualHost 555.666.777.888> ServerName spam.foo.org ProxyPass / http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/spam.isd197.org/spam/VirtualHost… ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/spam.isd197.org/spam/VirtualHost… ProxyPass /misc_ http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/spam.isd197.org/spam/VirtualHost… ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/spam.isd197.org/spam/VirtualHost… </VirtualHost> What am I missing? -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.org | http://www.zope.org W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org wilson(a)visi.com | <dtml-var pithy_quote> | http://linux.com

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SPAM! (was Zope Survey)
by Chris Withers 21 May '01

21 May '01

Did anyone else get the following message? I got it twice and am really fucking pissed off! Since when did DC start spamming people? I hope this new CEO isn't going to mark DC becoming a bunch of commercial arseholes who think this is a way to communicate with people. I would encourage anyone who got this to report it on spamcop.net. Chris (can you tell I don't like spam?!) Zope Survey wrote: > > Greetings, > > During the last year you visited Zope.org and we are asking your help > today to understand how we can serve you better in the future. Digital > Creations, the creators of Zope, would like your input on future product > enhancements, how to build a stronger Zope community, and additional > services you may need. > > Maintaining Zope as Open Source software is expensive and time intensive. > Without the support of community members like you, Digital Creations > would not be able to make more award winning changes to Zope. So please > take a moment and fill out this brief survey at: > > http://www.digicool.com/IZS/ZS310475/survey > > Thank you in advance for your time and cooperation > > Brian Methvin > CEO & President > Digital Creations > > If you have been sent this message by mistake, please accept our sincere > apology. You can have your email removed from our lists and avoid future > emails from us by using the following URL: > > http://www.digicool.com/IZS/ZS310475/remove

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why can zope not handle large files
by Christopher N. Deckard 21 May '01

21 May '01

For a project we are working on we have export of an MS Access database as csv (comma seperated) files. The csv file is about 37MB with rows of 18 numbers sepearted by commas. The file has been uploaded into Zope and then we are trying to insert each row into a PostgreSQL database using either the PoPy or PsycoPG database adapter. Basically Zope never comes back from trying to do this. We have also tested against Oracle with the same results. It's been run on an Athlon 600 and a Sun E450. Zope just starts to take up more and more memory eventually filling up swap and never completing the transaction. If we split the 37MB file up into small 3-4MB chunks, everything works fine. But it just can't handle the larger file. To me, 37MB doesn't seem like much. If it were .5GB, I could understand Zope having problems. How can I get this to work? I am not on the zope list (though I'll probably subscribe here in a moment) so please CC me on a reply. Thanks, -Chris

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Creating a learning environment with CMF
by Tres Seaver 21 May '01

21 May '01

Hamish Lawson <hamish_lawson(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I'm looking at creating a learning environment system for use within > our institution using the Content Management Framework. The tutor for a > given course unit would have a space in which they could provide notes > and other resources - discussion forums, quizzes, etc. The tutor should > also be to decide who gets to use the resources for their particular > unit (although they won't be responsible for creating users in the > first place, such details likely coming from an LDAP directory). I will > probably want to be able to make custom CMF-aware tools available to > all builders of course units. My question is whether each course unit > should be a separate CMF Portal instance, or whether there should be > one Portal instance and some folderish product being used for the > course units? I would take the second tack. Please CC the zope-cmf list with any replies, as the community of folks who share your interests is more focused there. Tres. -- ============================================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver(a)digicool.com Digital Creations "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.org -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver(a)digicool.com Digital Creations "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.org

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