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ANNOUNCE: EXPERIMENTAL DTML Syntax change
by Jim Fulton 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Zope 2.0.0 alpha 2 (and public CVS) includes an experimental change to the DTML parser to allow HTML tags syntax and character entity reference as an alternative to the server-side-include (SSI) syntax. Basically, source like:  <ul>  <li> <a href="//manage_workspace"> </a>  </ul>  to be written as: <dtml-var standard_html_header> <ul> <dtml-in objectValues> <li> <a href="&dtml-URL1;/&dtml-id;/manage_workspace"> <dtml-var title></a> <dtml-/in> </ul> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> This format is provided to overcome some of the problems with the SSI syntax: - It looks more like and fits in with HTML, - It is easier to type, - It is easier to type and slightly less verbose, - It is, perhaps, easier to teach HTML editors how to deal with it. I'm very interested to hear how helpful this is. Do people find this a significant improvement? If people don't find it useful then it will not be included in Zope 2.0 final, and perhaps not in the Zope 2.0 betas. Note: - This format does *not*, in my mind, significantly reduce the desire for an XML variant of DTML. I think there is room for *both* XML and non-XML variants of DTML, if only because sometimes people will need to have DTML documents that are not XML well formed, for example when generating non-XML text. - This does not address the desire for a nicer through-the-web scripting language for Zope. We intend to provide the ability to build Python methods through the web that are as safe (from a security point of view) as existing DTML methods. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Python Powered! Technical Director (888) 344-4332 http://www.python.org Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.zope.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.0.0 alpha 2 has been released
by Jim Fulton 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

See: http://www.zope.org/Download/Releases/Zope-2.0.0a2 Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Python Powered! Technical Director (888) 344-4332 http://www.python.org Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.zope.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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Heres my canView Method
by Jay, Dylan 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

This method will in most instances return 1 if the specified user can view a particular object. You have to give it a string path of the object relative to the current context. It will handle url type paths as well ie  and  will both work. I think this will give the correct result in most cases. However I stil think it should be an built in method as I think the code below is quite slow and if the real user validation code is done at the C level then it would be better to use that. from AccessControl.Permission import Permission import string def canViewObj(SomeObject, userRoles): if hasattr(SomeObject,'_View_Permission'): Roles = getattr(SomeObject,'_View_Permission') if 'Anonymous' in Roles: return 1 else: for i in userRoles: if i in Roles: return 1 # ok, try parents if SomeObject.acquiredRolesAreUsedBy('View') != '': return canViewObj(SomeObject.aq_parent, userRoles) else: return 0 elif hasattr(SomeObject, 'aq_parent'): return canViewObj(SomeObject.aq_parent, userRoles) else: return 1 # Not sure about this case. def canView(self, objName, AUTHENTICATED_USER): objName = 'self.'+string.replace(objName,'/','.') objName = string.replace(objName,'..','.') try: SomeObject = eval(objName) except: return 0 return canViewObj(SomeObject, AUTHENTICATED_USER.getRoles())

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sql varchar truncated?
by Scott Lewis 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

hi, i'm having a little problem that i hope someone might have some insight on. i'm using Zope with MS SQL Server 7.0, via the ODBC database adapter. i have a database field called 'description', which is a varchar of length 500. when i write and read back a value via SQL methods, the description string is truncated to about 250 characters. it looks like MS SQL is receiving the full string. if i try to write more than 500 chars, i get a SQL error. if i write less than 500, i get no error. but when i read back the string via a select SQL method, i only get back ~250 characters. i can't verify at the moment what's in the database- i'm FAR away. i've got an email to the DBA to check it out, but i was hoping somewhere here might have an idea of the problem. is a string variable limited to 256 chars in python or zope? i tested the SQL methods directly from zope, to insure that something wasn't happening with HTTP. thanks in advance for any help, -scott included below are the contents of the the two SQL methods (pretty straightforward...): the write method: insert into tblTrainingEvent (Title, Statewide, AreaID, description) values ('', 1, 1,) the read method: select description from tblTrainingEvent where

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MVC pattern
by steve＠hosys.com 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Hello, Does a template exist for implementing an MVC (VisualWorks Smalltalk) like structure for Products. The Product example I have shows inheriting Zope class info and DTML info into the "domain object". I'd like a pattern where the Python objects remain clean, are wrapped by a value model, and linked via the value model with a presentation scheme (DTML). Some code is presented below to the idea across but is not a suggested implementation. class DomainWrapper( OFS.SimpleItem.Item, Persistent, Acquisition.Implicit, AccessControl.Role.RoleManager, ): # Specify definitions for tabs: manage_options=( {'label':'Properties', 'action':'manage_main'}, {'label':'View', 'action':''}, {'label':'Security', 'action':'manage_access'}, ) # Specify how individual operations add up to "permissions": __ac_permissions__=( ('View management screens', ('manage_tabs','manage_main')), ('Change permissions', ('manage_access',) ), ('Change Persons', ('manage_edit',)), ('View', ('','manage_self_edit') ), ) _domainObj = '' index_html = HTMLFile('blank',globals()) def for(self,aDomainObject) _domainObj = aDomainObject def defaultHTML(self, aDTMLFile) index_html = HTMLFile(aDTMLFile) #end class DomainWrapper class DomainObj: #end class DomainObj class Person(DomainObj): _lname = '' _fname = '' _ssn = '' def _init_(self, lastname, firstname,ssn ): _lname = lastname _fname = firstname _ssn = ssn #end class Person p = Person(John,Smith,1112223333) pdw = DomainWrapper.for(p) pdw.defaultHTML('person.dtml') regards, Steve

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Iterating over folders with a certain attribute
by Jim Cain 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I want to retrieve the names of all folders that have attribute sequence_id and then iterate over them, while having them sorted by that attribute. I can't do something like:  because not all folders have this attribute. Am I going to have to build an array of these objects, and then iterate over them sorted? Thanks for the help, Jim ____________ Jim Cain, System Administrator ___ / ________ \ http://jec.mgmt-inc.com / / / / ______ \ \ _________ _______ _________ __/ /__ / / / __ \ \ \ / _ _ \ / ___ \ / _ _ \/_ ___/ / / / /_/ / / // // // // /__/ // // // / / /___ \ \ \___,_ \/ //__//__//__/ \____ //__//__//__/ \_____/, inc. \ \______\____/ _____/ / \_______/ \______/ http://www.mgmt-inc.com

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backing up Zope2
by Alex Rice 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

Is running "Pack" in Zope still the best way to backup a site? (other than export). What I'm thinking of is like the reverse of utilities/load_site.py. I was trying to FTP an entire Folder and could not. When I 'get' a Folder, it says 550 Error opening file but I can cd into it and 'get' it's contents. Is the Data.bbb format anticipated to change any between Zope 2.a2 and Zope 2.0? Just trying to avoid losing any work. Alex Rice | alrice(a)swcp.com | http://www.swcp.com/~alrice Current Location: N. Rio Grande Bioregion, Southwestern USA

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Re: [Zope] Learning
by Simon Michael 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

www.robotwisdom.com is another classic weblog. It mentions other weblogs and recently: Attention webloggers: If you only list yourself in one place, it should be here, at the Mozilla Open Directory: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/WWW/Web_Logs/ Regards. -Simon

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solution for alpha2 permissions problem?
by Daniel M. Drucker 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I've been reading the list, but I guess I must have missed it -- what's the solution to the alpha-2 permissions problem that prevents me from running zope as root/nobody so it can be on port 80? Traceback (innermost last): File "z2.py", line 414, in ? pf = open(PID_FILE, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/zope2/var/Z2.pid' zinit: Tue Jun 15 16:46:10 1999: Aiieee! 10142 exited with error code: 256

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How stable is the 2.0 alpha release?
by Alexander Staubo 16 Jun '99

16 Jun '99

I realize this is a completely silly and impossible question, but for a new Linux-based production server to run Zope, we feel a bit squeezed between using 1.10 (which does not have Z Classes), 1.11.0pr1 (which has proven to be quite stable but does not support concurrency), and 2.0.0a1 or the latest CVS version (which is an alpha, and which I have not attempted to run for stability testing). We'd be able to live with an unstable server for a couple (literally speaking, I think) of weeks, but beyond that time, we would like something of production, or at least beta, quality. Until this is cleared up we can cope with 1.110pr1, I guess. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`This must be Thursday,' said Arthur to himself, sinking low over his beer, `I never could get the hang of Thursdays.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_

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