January 2000 - Zope - Zope lists

Re: [Zope] DCOracle for 8.1.5 (8i)
by Sam Gendler 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

Like I said, I don't think he reads the list. Besides, I give him grief about Oracle all the time, and he takes it in good humour. I think the core of the problem is that there are something like 3000 consultants in his department. Imagine trying to maintain a consistent level of quality with that large of a pool of employees. That said, I find that independant oracle consultants are just as bad. I have never once been tempted to use oracle for anything, due to the unbelievable added time of development and increased cost of maintenance. Jim, if you are out there... See, I'm not the only one!!!! --sam Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Sam Gendler wrote: > > > Watch your mouths, guys. My ex-girlfriend's father is director of > > consulting engineering at Oracle and I have been slowly but surely > > turning him on to Zope. You never know when he might start reading the > > list (he doesn't yet, to the best of my knowledge). > > I'm taking this off this list, since I don't want to make your life > unnecessarily hard for you :-) but I have to say that even my limited > experience with Oracle's consulting has been uniformly poor (much along > the lines of what mr. Baxter just described). > > Kick him for us, would you? The poor quality of Oracle's support (and > it's rediculous pricetag) makes it much more cost-effective for smaller > companies to just use something like Postgres ... if the free dbms's > become more scalable and Oracle stays at this level of complexity without > adding CONSIDERABLE value to their current offering, or better support, > they're just going to become obselete (postgres will do to them what Linux > is doing to SCO). > > Maybe the features are in there, but I've never been able to coax them out > of hiding. All I could ever get was a broken installer, and extensions > that didn't work as advertised. > > I got to use one for a while during my tenure at a large investment bank > that was set up by another admin, maintained by someone whose entire job > was Oracle administration, supported by a team of Oracle techs -- THERE I > could see some additional functionality, but not much. Given that it took > probably ~$2M/yr to maintain the thing, it probably wasn't worth it. > > In conclusion, it was a good thing you mentioned this, 'cause if not, I > wuld have launched into a supporting diatribe :-) > > > Anthony Baxter wrote: > > > > Once upon a time I attempted to write something that would parse > > > the Makefiles that ship with Oracle to generate a Setup file. This > > > was a completely fruitless task - Oracle seem to go out of their > > > way to make this a total pain in the backside (probably to make > > > more business for their consulting business "yes, we can help > > > you compile an application" - god knows their consultant (in my > > > experience, anyway) aren't much good for anything else...)) > > --- > Even if you can deceive people about a product through misleading statements, > sooner or later the product will speak for itself. > - Hajime Karatsu -- Sam Gendler Chief Technology Officer - Impossible, Inc. 1222 State St. Suite 250 Santa Barbara CA. 93101 w: 805-560-0508 f: 805-560-0608 c: 805-689-1191 e: sgendler(a)impossible.com

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PTK bug?
by Roland Reumerman 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

I installed the Portal Tool Kit in my Zope directory (2.1.1), and then tried to import ZopeOrg.zexp (which I'd first moved to the import dir), but it didn't work. I didn't see any new entry under Available Objects either (is it supposed to?!). Instead I was subjected to: The object ZopeOrg does not support this operation Traceback (innermost last): File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 179, in publish File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 202, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 165, in publish File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_importObject) File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 102, in call_object (Object: manage_importObject) File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\OFS\ObjectManager.py, line 479, in manage_importObject (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File d:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 374, in _verifyObjectPaste (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) Copy Error: (see above) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [Zope] Adding Photo programmatically
by Nicholas Piper 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

ed, On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, ed colmar wrote: > def addImage(obj,id,file): > f=open('%s\Products\%s' % (SOFTWARE_HOME,file),'rb') > > contents=f.read() > f.close() > title='' > tlen = len(contents) > new_id = obj.manage_addImage(id,contents,title=title) > img_obj = obj.__getitem__(new_id) > img_obj.content_type = 'image/gif' > > > > then to call it: > > addImage(curr_folder, 'mylogo','root/Images/mylogo.gif') Yes, this works. However, other classes don't seem to be in the same namespace as manage_addImage. For example, in Products/*/*.py I see things defined at "top level" such as def manage_addZCatalog(self,id,title,REQUEST=None): and def manage_addPhoto(self, id, file, tit.... Where are these ? How can I call these from an External Method ? -- <pcomm(a)inorbit.com> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nicholas(a)innotts.co.uk> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=pgp

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SQL connector or ZSQL method access from an external method
by J C Lawrence 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

Given an SQL connector, or ZSQL methods, how can I access them from an external method? -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re. Zope/SuSE 6.x How-To v0.1 ready for review
by Jerry 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

Maybe I'm thinking of an obsolete version, but isn't SuSE able to use RPM's for package installation? I thought (at one point, anyhow) their default package format was RPM. At any rate, SuSE 6.3 is at the local Best Buys priced around $30.00, with six CD's full of goodies, and a fairly usable manual. You could start with Debian (Corel, Red Hat, your choice) as your base OS, download the Zope RPM, and if the SuSE CDs still use RPM's, grab any additional packages you want off the SuSE CDs. I guess this does sound a bit daunting for newbie, after all. Just a thought. Good luck! Jerry S.

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Re: [Zope] Re. Zope/SuSE 6.x How-To v0.1 ready for review
by J C Lawrence 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:00:21 -0500 Jules <zope(a)jules.com> wrote: > Yes it does but until the Linux Standard Base (www.linuxbase.org) > agrees on where everything should be, each distro *may* require a > separate RPM. From what I've gathered on the list, Red Hat differs > enough from SuSE that the RPM installation will fail -- can > anybody confirm this> Does Red Hat use /etc/rc.config? I don't > have RH around to try and test it. > If you want to try the RPM out and prove me wrong, I've love to > eat a big bowl of crow ;-) Unfortunately, you are correct, and the problem in fact is worse than that in that you also run into problems with control files being of different formats (from an automated tool's viewpoint), helper-tools not being present, packages supplying the same dependencies under different distributions will have different names leading to dependency mazes, etc. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Zope] Expression Evaluation Problem (Newbee Question)
by J C Lawrence 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:20:49 +0100 (MET) Borno Janekovic <Borno.Janekovic(a)gmx.de> wrote: > but if I do a check like <dtml-if "xtype ==1"> I get no matching. I hit this. The problem is a question of types. xtype is of type string (probably), and your literal '1' is of type int, so the comparison fails. Try this: <dtml-if "_.int(xtype) == _.int(1)"> -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Zope] Re. Zope/SuSE 6.x How-To v0.1 ready for review
by Jules 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

| Maybe I'm thinking of an obsolete version, but isn't SuSE able to use | RPM's for package installation? I thought (at one point, anyhow) their | default package format was RPM. Yes it does but until the Linux Standard Base (www.linuxbase.org) agrees on where everything should be, each distro *may* require a separate RPM. From what I've gathered on the list, Red Hat differs enough from SuSE that the RPM installation will fail -- can anybody confirm this> Does Red Hat use /etc/rc.config? I don't have RH around to try and test it. If you want to try the RPM out and prove me wrong, I've love to eat a big bowl of crow ;-) Cheers, Jules

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Adding Photo programmatically
by Nicholas Piper 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

Has anyone been able to add a Photo object in code ? DTML or Python would be fine; At the moment I can't seem to do it at all :-( I've followed the HOWTO about this, but it still fails. Apparently this should work ; def addAPhoto(self, id, REQUEST=None): """ """ # Get the actual destination object, using the this() # method, to be sure we get it in the right context.. self=self.this() # Create the new instance newob=self.Control_Panel.Products.Photo.Photo(id,'title','') newob.id=id # Set properties based on the contents of the Add form newob.propertysheets.Basic.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST) # Add a new Folder to the new instance #self.manage_addFolder('foobar') # Add the new instance to the target object self._setObject(id, newob) return 'OK!' But it just returns ; File /home/nicholas/downloads/Zope-2.1.1-src/Extensions/DOOO.py, line 21, in addAPhoto (Object: ElementWithAttributes) AttributeError: __call__ Line 21 is newob=self.Control_Panel.Products.Photo.Photo(id,'title','') I've been calling it with http://localhost:8080/Intranet/addAPhoto?id=blue -- <pcomm(a)inorbit.com> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nicholas(a)innotts.co.uk> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=pgp

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Re: [Zope] passing lists in forms
by Anthony Baxter 30 Jan '00

30 Jan '00

>>> Stephan Richter wrote > I usually user x:list only if I have checkboxes. Then it is very usefull. You > probably can use it for multiple select windows as well. > I have not yet seen a way where you can enter a list using text or textarea. x:tokens then "a b cdef g h i" will be turned into a list of 6 items. Anthony

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