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by Pandey Ashok 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

--- zope(a)yahoogroups.com wrote: > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now > http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/ySSFAA/b7EolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Zope Documentation in general > From: Patrick Price <jprice22(a)wvu.edu> > 2. Re: Running zope with Python 2.2... > From: "Andreas Jung" > <andreas(a)andreas-jung.com> > 3. Re: What is lst[0] ?? > From: Max M <maxm(a)mxm.dk> > 4. Re: What is lst[0] ?? > From: Nicolas �vrard <nicoe(a)wanadoo.be> > 5. using a ZCatalog via xmlrpc > From: Sylvain Th�nault > <Sylvain.Thenault(a)logilab.fr> > 6. Re: using a ZCatalog via xmlrpc > From: "Andreas Jung" > <andreas(a)andreas-jung.com> > 7. StructuredText question > From: Andreas Kostyrka > <andreas(a)kostyrka.priv.at> > 8. Vladimir Knobel/Com.Factory is out of the > office. > From: meckert(a)comfactory.ch > 9. Re: StructuredText question > From: "Andreas Jung" > <lists(a)andreas-jung.com> > 10. Problem with undo > From: "Josef Meile" <jmeile(a)hotmail.com> > 11. Re: [Zope-dev] DTML and REQUEST data > changes about to be checked in > From: Max M <maxm(a)mxm.dk> > 12. Re[2]: Question regarding exUserFolder > From: Dmitry Matveev > <matveev(a)uralfirm.ru> > 13. Re: Problems with list of object references > From: Sven Rudolph > <rudolph(a)medical-tribune.de> > 14. Re: [Zope-dev] Coroner's toolkit for zope, > or how to figure out what went wrong. > From: Jim Fulton <jim(a)zope.com> > 15. Tutos > From: Oliver Marx <Oliver(a)tekk.dk> > 16. Re: Problem with undo > From: Maik Jablonski > <maik.jablonski(a)uni-bielefeld.de> > 17. Re: Tutos > From: "Andreas Jung" > <lists(a)andreas-jung.com> > 18. Re[2]: Lookinf inside page templates from a > script > From: Dmitry Matveev > <matveev(a)uralfirm.ru> > 19. Re: Problem with undo > From: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> > 20. Re: Problems with list of object references > From: Stefan H. Holek <stefan(a)epy.co.at> > 21. need to make zope accessable from only two > different IP-Addresses > From: Manuel Hendel <zope(a)hendel.net> > 22. RE: Tutos > From: "Oliver Marx" <oliver(a)tekk.dk> > 23. Re: need to make zope accessable from only > two different IP-Addresses > From: "Andreas Jung" > <lists(a)andreas-jung.com> > 24. Re: Problem with undo > From: Jens Vagelpohl <jens(a)zope.com> > 25. Re: Tutos > From: Maik Jablonski > <maik.jablonski(a)uni-bielefeld.de> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:43:55 -0400 > From: Patrick Price <jprice22(a)wvu.edu> > Subject: Zope Documentation in general > > Here's my general take on spending about a week > looking for good Zope > documention (from a newbie perspective)...Pardon me > if this is too obvious. > > I'm finding that Zope documentation has these > common problems: > > I finally found the How-To's by a roundabout route - > I would search > Google for "Zope" and my subject, then I'd find > these wonderful > How-To's, but, they all seemed to be owned by > separate authors and there > were no links from each How-To back to a master > table of contents, nor > an index. Each page was by itself and had no hooks > to any other > documentation. It seemed in every case I was at the > end of the > documentation line. I didn't know where the "master > list" of these > things were. Eventually I came to find the Docs > link on the Zope.org > site. > > Then I found that the "basic" how-to's which applied > to me are sometimes > old and thus hard to find (initially). I found that > by going to Docs, > All How-To's, then setting the Batch Size box to the > total # of entries, > I could scroll to the bottom of the entire list and > start finding the > stuff I wanted to read, like: > > Gotchas for Zope Beginners 2000/10/16 jens > Zope Installation Choices 2000/08/24 guy_davis > Z Catalog Tutorial 2000/10/16 Amos > The DTML Name Space How-To 2000/10/16 michel > Getting Started With DTML Scripting 2000/10/16 Pam > > You get the idea... notice the dates on these. > Unfortunately for this > layout, the how-to's get more complex as time > passes. So as a new Zope > user, I initially see a bunch of high-level stuff at > the top which > usually isn't basic information. Almost enough to > make me give up > because I spend all my time searching for > documentation relevant to my > skill level. I have to dig to find the "good > newbie stuff" at the > bottom. This makes sense in terms of "starting at > the bottom" for new > people, and allows people more versed in the product > to "find the > latest" at the top, however the ordering as it is, > is "static", > appealing to one mindset. It is limiting. Perhaps > rating systems and > voting on the most popular/helpful documents is the > answer? > > The other thing I'd like to mention is that I > haven't yet found an INDEX > for this stuff - like the kind you'd find in a good > book. Are there no > keywords for these documents? Must I forever be > performing text or > Google searches on everything? I come across the > good docs *almost > always* as a result of someone making a URL mention > in an email. It's > almost a shame that subscribing to a mailing list is > the best way to > find where the documentation is. Lists are a good > thing, don't get me > wrong, but still...not everyone knows the value of > mailing lists, or has > the time to scan everything. > > I'd like to see some sort of knowledge-base > product for Zope > documentation, something that would open up the Zope > world to me by > asking "What level are you? Beginner? Well then, > here's what you need > to be looking at to make you smarter." "This > How-To rated Beginner." > or "Warning: complex subject ahead." > > With "rating systems" then I could do the driving, > rather than me having > to adapt to how someone else decided the documents > should be presented. > Maybe then I could avoid wading through the latest > greatest information > which is often tantalizing but ultimately confusing > for my beginner > status. > > I'm not after slamming Zope.org or the documentation > itself. I have > the same problems finding stuff every time I > undertake document > research. I just have this feeling that Zope can do > all this and more. > Is it already being done? > > I propose that a few documentation implementation > standards would go a > === message truncated === ===== Ashok Pandey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Re: [Zope] startup exception
by Jens Vagelpohl 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

<please keep this on the list so other people can benefit from it, too> i think you can use /etc/hostconfig for that, but i am not sure if other things might break if you change that setting from -AUTOMATIC- to a host name. it will most likely give you trouble whenever you connect the machine to a network where that host name cannot be resolved anymore. on the other hand, why can't the "automatic" hostname not be resolved? are you sure your DNS settings are correct? jens On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 10:15 , baiewola(a)netscape.net wrote: > Thank you, Jens. Yes, I'm using OS X. > > I had set the hostname already and just did it again. It seems like what > is happening is that the hostname is resetting itself when I restart the > computer. Is there a configuration file somewhere that I can change to > hard-code it in? > > Chris > > > Jens Vagelpohl <jens(a)zope.com> wrote: > >> the machine name of the machine you are using cannot be resolved to an IP. >> make sure the machine name is resolvable. use hostname -s <newhostname> >> to >> change the hostname if needed. this is described here under the header >> "Zope":: >> >> http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/docs/zope_osx >> >> (i assume you are running OS X, i think Fink is OS X-only) >> >> jens >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 08:35 , baiewola(a)netscape.net wrote: >> >>> I just installed Zope 2.5.1. It installed alright and seemed to be >>> running >>> okay. I did some other installations for Fink and MySQL, then I went back >>> to Zope to change the default startup switch from -D to -Z '' and now it >>> something strange happens. It seems to start up but a few seconds later >>> it >>> spits out this line: >>> >>> [1] Done ./start >>> >>> If I look at the running processes immediately after startup up Zope (and >>> before receiving the "done" message), there is a z2.py process running >>> for >>> a few seconds. >>> >>> I thought maybe I screwed up the start file, but changing it back to -D >>> didn't work, so I started Zope up myself from the command line, like >>> this: >>> myuser% /usr/local/bin/python2.1 /Applications/Zope/z2.py -D >>> >>> >>> And I received a startup exception that I don't understand: >>> ------ >>> 2002-08-13T12:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: >>> '12691952_1028915609.880719' >>> ------ >>> 2002-08-13T12:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database >>> '12691952_1028915609.880719' at /temp_folder >>> ------ >>> 2002-08-13T12:06:27 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception >>> Traceback (innermost last): >>> File /Applications/Zope/z2.py, line 558, in ? >>> File /Applications/Zope/ZServer/HTTPServer.py, line 320, in __init__ >>> File /Applications/Zope/ZServer/medusa/http_server.py, line 578, in >>> __init__ >>> error: host not found >>> >>> Help! >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail. > netscape.com/ >

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licensing
by Mike Gallagher 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hi everyone, A quick licensing question: I work for a small consultancy. Is it legal for me to build a Zope application and sell this to one of our customers? ===== Best regards, Mike Gallagher __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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DTML list objects in different directory
by Kevin Sullivan 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hi, Whats the best way to run this code, but for objects in a different directory? <ul> <dtml-in expr="objectValues('DTML Document')"> <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a></li> </dtml-in> </ul> Thanks, Kevin Sullivan, MCP, A+ Systems Administrator MIT Economics Dept ksull(a)economics.mit.edu 617-253-8895

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SQL Output in python script
by Chetan Kumar 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hi all I have a python script calling a ZSQL method. ----------------------- resp=SQLMethod(Input) return resp ----------------------- The response from the ZSQL method is <Shared.DC.ZRDB.Results.Results instance at 0x8f4e8a4> I want to access the result as I need to do some processing over this before sending it to a ZPT for display. What is the trick ? TIA Chetan

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need to make zope accessable from only two different IP-Addresses
by Manuel Hendel 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

I already setup Zope, I'm using FreeBSD 4.6 and Zope from the ports collection. How can I define the hosts which are allowed to access the Zope Server on Port 8080? Thanks for any help, Manuel -- The City of Palo Alto, in its official description of parking lot standards, specifies the grade of wheelchair access ramps in terms of centimeters of rise per foot of run. A compromise, I imagine...

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Re: [Zope] IP restriction
by Manuel Hendel 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Isn't it possible to just let zope liston on port 8080 on localhost? Manuel -- That which is called madness, that which to me, is the only sensible way to love. -F. Sagan

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Re: [Zope] Tutos
by Jens-E. Hansen 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

> maybe we should think about starting a TeamWare-Project for ZOPE > from the scratch...;-) whats about "group-zope"? I think this is "TeamWare-Project". Is it alive?

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list -> string -> list
by Chris Withers 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

(this belongs on zope(a)zope.rog so I've moved it there...) Bryan C. Andregg wrote: > I have a form on which I am doing some verification and if the verification > fails returns the same form with fields already filled in where possibe using > REQUEST. One road block that I've run into is a set of checkboxes that I have. > My verification script can deal correctly with them regardless whether or not > it's sent a list, and string, or nothing it all. In passing back to the > calling form I thought I'd do something like use url_quote to pass REQUEST > something like: > > myForm?list=%5B%27checkbox_1%27%2C%20%27checkbox_2%27%5D Eek! Erk! Yuk! Don't do that ;-) More helpfully: The above if very fragile and unsightly. Rather than doing a redirect to get back to your form, just return it at the end of your validation script, should the values not be good enough: return context.myForm() ...that way you'll still have the original request and won't need ot do any nastiness to pass values around. cheers, Chris

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startup exception
by baiewola＠netscape.net 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

I just installed Zope 2.5.1. It installed alright and seemed to be running okay. I did some other installations for Fink and MySQL, then I went back to Zope to change the default startup switch from -D to -Z '' and now it something strange happens. It seems to start up but a few seconds later it spits out this line: [1] Done ./start If I look at the running processes immediately after startup up Zope (and before receiving the "done" message), there is a z2.py process running for a few seconds. I thought maybe I screwed up the start file, but changing it back to -D didn't work, so I started Zope up myself from the command line, like this: myuser% /usr/local/bin/python2.1 /Applications/Zope/z2.py -D And I received a startup exception that I don't understand: ------ 2002-08-13T12:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '12691952_1028915609.880719' ------ 2002-08-13T12:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '12691952_1028915609.880719' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-08-13T12:06:27 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): File /Applications/Zope/z2.py, line 558, in ? File /Applications/Zope/ZServer/HTTPServer.py, line 320, in __init__ File /Applications/Zope/ZServer/medusa/http_server.py, line 578, in __init__ error: host not found Help! __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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