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Live track with Paul Everitt at Net4Any Paris available in MP3
by Jerome Alet 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Hi, I'm pleased to announce that large bits of Net4Any's meeting with Paul Everitt on November 23 in Paris are now available in MP3 format. For the Eurozopers here who have already received a similar message some days ago, I must say that the two first parts that were missing are now available along with the rest. These two parts are Paul's introduction. Net4Any organized this event, and many european Zope developpers came there to discuss with Paul about the future of Zope and their own products. Unfortunately, because of different technical problems there are several files instead of a single one, and some parts are missing. However you should be able to listen to something like 3 hours of discussion, jokes (even private ones ;-), explanations, etc... Because of lack of time I've not edited any of these files in any way, so you can hear at some preliminary tests at the beginning... The Nice-Sophia Antipolis University, and particularly its Medicine School, are pleased to host these files on their server for some time. You can listen to them using any web browser with an MP3 plugin (RealPlayer, xmms, mpg123, FreeAmp, WinAmp, iTunes, etc...), at : http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zopeintro-1.mp3&f… http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zopeintro-2.mp3&f… http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zope-1.mp3&file=d… http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zope-2.mp3&file=d… http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zope-3.mp3&file=d… http://stream.unice.fr:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/file/zope/zope-4.mp3&file=d… Alternatively, you can download them with wget with command lines similar to : wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zopeintro-1.mp3 wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zopeintro-2.mp3 wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zope-1.mp3 wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zope-2.mp3 wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zope-3.mp3 wget http://stream.unice.fr:8000/file/zope/zope-4.mp3 Please report any problem to access these files. Happy Zoping ! Jerome Alet - Medicine School of Nice - France

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RE: [Zope] 2 Newbie Questions
by Meilicke, Scott 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Welcome! 1. Yes. http://www.zope.org/Members/brianh/iis_howto I haven't tried this, just found it on zope.org. 2. I presume the above takes care of that for you. Do a search on the mailing lists to try and find more info: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.zope.org&btnG=Google+Search or http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html Other searchable archives exist, the above are the two that I use. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Thompson [mailto:brandont@qwest.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:38 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] 2 Newbie Questions Hi, I just joined the list, and I have to say all of the support I have seen so far has be amazing! Can anyone help answer the following two questions for me.. I am a newbie to Zope. 1. Can you run the Zope Server and IIS at the same time? I hope to be able to use www.myname.com and have it be picked-up by IIS, and www.myname.com/zope and have the Zope server take over. 2. If this question still applies, how use the Zope server without the port follow the domain name, such as www.myname.com:8080??? I followed the instruction as on zopefornembies.com and change the port to just 80. But then Zope server never worked.... Any help is greatly appreciated! _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files.

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Re: [Zope] Sorting Zope objects in python scripts
by complaw＠hal-pc.org 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

> > Hi Ron, > it's not clear to me if you want to dynamically give the property on > which to sort or if this can be static. Oliver: As it turned out, it was a static property (attribute). > I don't know how to do the first > in an elegant way, but here is the second: > > def compare_integers(a,b): > return cmp(a.element_number, b.element_number) > > myList.sort(compare_integers) That did the trick. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ron > > i.e. you handle the objects to your custom compare method and it gets > the attribute it wants to compare from the objects. > > Oh, and if the object itself knows on what it wants to be sorted, you > could use > > def compare_integers(a,b): > return cmp(getattr(a,a.what_to_sort), getattr(b,b.what_to_sort)) > > i.e. a.what_to_sort would be a string property holding the name of the > property on which a and b want to be sorted. You could also use some > global variable which you set in your script, and your compare method > would retrive it. > > > > HTH, > oliver > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Degrading performance with redirects?
by Jonathan (Listserv) 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Hi, We're experiencing a problem with a Zope based site that serves most of its content via redirects, the new location based on results from a PostgreSQL database. The weird thing is that the Zope site becomes very slow after a week or two, which is fixed by restarting Zope. It doesn't seem to be a memory problem (512MB free out of 768MB total) or a load problem (server is 99% idle most of the time). Zope has about 5 Gigabytes of storage available, running on Red Hat Linux 7.1. The homepage is served by a redirect: <dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('content-type', 'text/html')"> <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect('nl/another.page')"> The rest of the site is basic DTML, building tables based on results from the database with a few if's here and there. Could it be that the '.' in the redirect causes problems? Or the setHeader? Any ideas? Thanks! Jonathan -- UR Communications - Solutions For Wired Professionals Learn more about our services @ http://www.ur.nl/

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RE: [Zope] CMF, like it? hate it? why? other options?
by Meilicke, Scott 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

I think if you have multiple people contributing content, it can be a good fit. Pros: The contributor interface can be made easier than the ZMI Skins are great - easy to switch presentation with a single source of content Consistent set of metadata Cons: Difficult to develop products for people new to zope products and python - I have yet to find a list detailing exactly what I need to do to make a product, I have just copied existing products and modified Difficult to integrate non-CMF zope products into the CMF Seems to be a bit slower than stock zope - RAM Cache seems to partially solve this Perhaps addressing your concern, I have put a little icon next to each topic, which when clicked starts a pop-up describing how members can get their stuff published to that particular topic - i.e. what metadata to use. The next step would be something like getting a list of all topics, and asking the user where they would like there stuff to show up, then prepopulating their document/file/whatever with the proper metadata. -Scott -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Singh [mailto:jacob@prisonbooks.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:57 AM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope] CMF, like it? hate it? why? other options? Is CMF worth investing the wicked steep learning curve. I really am banging my head against the wall with it. Mainly in terms of how to make it look like and feel like a normal website and not one that members need to know what folder an article is published in. It's all very confusing to me, but I se the benefits. What's your opinions? Jacob Singh P.S. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about: http://cmf.zope.org _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files.

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RE: [Zope] CMF, like it? hate it? why? other options?
by Jacob Singh 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

I understand what it looks like; I was wondering how can you use JUST the login manager and not the whole CMF? -----Original Message----- From: lozinski(a)openstepnews.com [mailto:lozinski@openstepnews.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:30 PM To: Jacob Singh Subject: RE: [Zope] CMF, like it? hate it? why? other options? It is like a yahoo login manager, New users enter email, password, password. Old users log in. Click here to enter mothers maiden name and have password emailed to you. Regards Chris 1-510-795-6086 lozinski(a)openstepnews.com lozinski(a)jobmart.com

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Re:[Zope] CMF, like it? hate it? why? other options?
by lozinski＠openstepnews.com 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

I also banged my head against CMF for the longest time. The trick to understanding it is that in CMF the user environment is the developpment environment. So log into CMF, then try to develop. That said, I believe CMF is overkill for all of my projects. I do not have a separate tree of content to present, and a separate tree of people who submit content. As a recruiter, every person has one resume, so there is just one tree. So CMF is overkill. I do plan to use the login manager. And then CMF adds so much junk to my system, I can no longer find anything. For example the permissions page becomes huge. So I happily deleted CMF. And I lived happily ever after. On a different topic: I just completed www.pythonandzope.com, and I would love some feedback. Regards Chris 1-510-795-6086 lozinski(a)openstepnews.com lozinski(a)jobmart.com

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Sorting Zope objects in python scripts
by complaw＠hal-pc.org 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

If one were to write... myList = [] for obj in context.objectValues(['Folder', 'DTML Document']): if obj.instance_type = 'Desired Class': myList.append(obj) .. then I would want to sort the various objects. The question is, how do I do that? I could do... myList.sort() .. but that doesn't give me a way to control on which property the sort is done. You could use a sort function, such as... def compare_integers(first=0, second=0): if first > second: return 1 else: if first == second: return 0 else: return -1 .. and this leads to the part that I just don't grok. How do I specify a particular property within an object (such as element_number) as the parameter to be used for the comparison? Do I just... myList.sort(compare_integers) ?? Can anyone give me a quick hint? The python documentation is a little short in this area. Thanks in advance, Ron

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Getting Zope to act as if it is in a different domain?
by Etienne Labuschagne 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Hi there, Here is my problem: Web site is served from domain A (an IIS web server) Web site uses a plugin JavaScript component from web site B (a Zope web server) which is plugged into a page served by A (not a frame of it's own). Web site JavaScript plugin opens a new window, creates a form, fills the form vars and posts it to Zope at B (the plugin uses this method to communicate with Zope Server) Zope web site returns a newly created page with the response to the JavaScript's request entered in a form var. JavaScript plugin must now access the form var to extract the answer. This does not work (access denied error) as the JavaScript plugin in page served from A cannot access elements in page served from B. Is there a way that I can set the headers/whatever of the page served by Zope so that it seems as if it was served by A and not by B? (I know how to get A's domain from HTTP_REFERER, but does not know how to set the headers/whatever). I wouldn't be surprised if this is totally impossible (but am REALLY hoping it is!). B.t.w. the audience is mostly I.E. browsers - I don't know if this is browser dependent though. Thanks Etienne.

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Good development environment for Zope?
by Lennart Regebro 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

I just tested the WingIDE. It was a bit complex to set up, but not too much. Unfortunately, when trying to do the WingTest "walkthrough" to get started with Zope debugging and development, when trying to run a program, python crashed... So I gave up. I have no idea why that happened or what to do about it. So I'm asking you people here: How have you set up your development environments? Are you using any IDE? What editors are you using, how do you debug programs, how do you do testing, are you using any other applications as support for development? I'll answer my own questions first: IDE: No. Editor: Textpad. Debug method: Mostly "print" statements... Testing: Uhm, no, not really. Other apps: Nope.

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