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Not quite right I think
by Peter Bengtsson 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Somebody called Kemalus (can't find his email address) wrote this http://www.zope.org/Members/Kemalus/smart_using_namespace He says that <dtml-var foo> is better than <dtml-var "REQUEST.form['foo']"> "This allows your code to be more readable, hence more maintainable." I disagree! Looking back at old DTML I find myself wonder sometimes, "which namestack is this expected to come from?" In <dtml-var foo> 'foo' could be a method, a template, a property or any of the many REQUEST dictionaries. So debugging <dtml-var foo>, you have to search in all of this possibilities, whereas with <dtml-var "REQUEST.form['foo']"> can only come from one place. No offense Kemalus. I just constructivly critize. Readability isn't about the number of characters of text or the number of quotation marks. What do the others think? Peter

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zope + python 2.0
by cota 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Hi everybody. I need help to use Zope. I have installed Zope 2.3.3 binary version under a linux SUSE 7.1 system. I have installed python-ldap 1.10 alpha 3 requiring Python 2.0. At zope start up I get a lot of warning like this: WARNING: Python C API version mismatch for module cStringIO: This Python has API version 1009, module cStringIO has version 1007 Have you got some suggestion about it? Do you know why? Thanks a lot -- Alessandro COTA CSP s.c. a r.l. - INLAB Laboratorio&Tecnologie - PA ______________________________________________ Via Livorno, 60 - 10144 Torino [IT] Alessandro.Cota(a)csp.it tel. +39 011 316 5107 ______________________________________________

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zmysqlda + python
by Tamas Amon 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Hello, How can I use zmysqlda object (name is MSQL) in a python-script? PLease send me a little example too. Thanks Amon Tamas sajt(a)amon.hu

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Re: DocumentLibrary in Win2K
by Ryan Winfield Woodings 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

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RE: [Zope] search dtml-tree
by Dunigan, Craig 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Hi Andreas, Unfortunately, it doesn't look like dtml-tree can be readily influenced the way you want. There's supposed to be a way to manipulate a variable set in a cookie, but my searches haven't found it yet. Anyway, it appears to accept only the parameters to expand_all or collapse_all, and that's it. If you can find a way to make this work, there would be a *lot* of people on this list who would be interested. Craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Prlic [mailto:andreas@came.sbg.ac.at] > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 4:23 AM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] search dtml-tree > > > Hi! > > I want to provide a search interface a dtml-tree. Users should query > all of the nodes of the tree and if their keyword matches to the title > of the node, the tree should automatically be expanded to display this > node > > What is the best way to do it ? > > e.g.: > A tree about cars: > if the table is not expanded it looks like: > > +cars > > if it is searched with "Opel" it should expand to: > > -cars > | > |- Ferrari > | > |- Opel > > > Thanks for your help, > andreas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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From Zope to FTP, without WGET
by Ausum 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

I'd like to enable a "save to ftp site" button along with the "save changes" one, in my site's dtml-documents, using authorization info previously gathered. Is it possible to use Zope as an FTP client, allowing it to upload immediately the just rendered page to the remote FTP site, at its mirror place? If the case was it isn't already written the code, would you please point me in the right direction? I will be happy if a Zproduct comes out of this purpose. Thanks in advance, Ausum

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RE: Fwd: Re: [Zope] beginner
by Todd Cranston-Cuebas 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

I'm also new to Zope, but I agree that having "transitional" manuals would be helpful. I'd like to see one that shifts traditional web developers into Zope by tackling the differences head on. I don't think that the Zope book http://serenade.4-am.com/ZopeBook actually does this. It certainly is helpful and provides a gradual introduction to Zope, but really what I want to see is how things should best be done the Zope way. I think I would have been better off starting with chapter 12 of this same book ("Extending Zope"). This chapter introduces ZClasses and shows how to create a product that would allow for a web presentation, user entry through the management interface, etc. For the longest time I couldn't "get" how I would do something as simple as create a recipe card file with Zope. Zope is a total mind-shift from traditional web development/database tools so hit it head on and show a complete development of a generic web site doing things entirely the Zope way. I found it hard to make the mental transition when looking at nothing but DTML since it looks like many of the other systems I've been familiar with (just another tagged based meta-language) but it's not. It's tied into Zope's incredible object database and management interface. Just my two cents... BTW: Don't get me wrong, this book was an absolute godsend! Todd -----Original Message----- From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@digicool.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:26 AM To: Philippe Jadin; zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Zope] beginner > > This multipurposing confuses the bejeezus out of people when they first > > come to Zope, because there's no way a single set of docs could possibly > > serve all of those audiences. We'd need to write maybe four or five > > different sets of documentation to service all of these audiences. We > > can't do this for financial reasons. > > What could be good however : have a "how to make the transition" guide for > differents origins. Maybe ask some experienced zope users who were using > different tools before the discovered zope. Having for example a simple app > written in php and then with zope, idem for coldfusion and others... But > imho if you take the time to read and understand the zope book you get all > of this and a lot more. Yes... unless you really want to do something very specific to a particular system... like.. use regexes in Perl. You'd need to search almost forever to figure out how to expose regex functionality in Zope without using an external method. There are lots of other examples like this. All we can do is rely on the community and the maillist here. > something different : > > I had to search the php.net site for a particular function, and I found what > is so cool about this site : users can search any php function very easily, > and most important : *visitors can add comments and examples* to the > function explanation. > > This could be added to the zope docs imho. One folder per function, and let > the users add their own comments (guestbook like). How about http://serenade.4-am.com/ZopeBook? This Zope Book instance is going away, so don't get too carried away adding comments... but if you like it, *please* let the Zope docs folks know that you'd like to get the Zope Book annotation/bugtracking system out of the SourceForge tracker and into this system by emailing docs(a)digicool.com . > something more different : > > why not add a guestbook-like system to every page of zope.org? This way we > could read the experience of other users about the current page. This is the purpose of the CMF Discussion system (an example of which the above is *not*). - C _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] newbie: why external database?
by Bak ＠ kedai 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

>ahoi, > >I want to develope a forum with zope. There are products wich store >messages and replies in the ZODB. if you want to, try out http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/ZTD it's zclass threaded discussion with postgres. give it a go. havent yet found the time to turn it into a real product. will do if there's demand :) meanwhile, a zclass it is hth

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RE: [Zope] Very long URLs
by Sedat Yilmazer 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

Sorry to jump in the middle of the conversation.. But just remark. passing URL's in the GET needs urlencoding since : and / is not alloaved in the parameter values ei www.yoursite.com/ascript?par1=http://www.othersite.com/page2.html is not a valid URL. It must be written as www.yoursite.com/ascript?par1=http%3a%2f%2fwww.othersite.com%2fpage2.html Sedat Yilmazer Kibele Iletisim Sis. ve Serv. Ltd. -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Thomas B. Passin Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:41 PM To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Very long URLs [<belen(a)netcom.no>] > > Thanks a lot for your help. > I have tried your method but it does not seem to work or I was unable > to make it work :( > I thought that REQUEST.form it is only used if the request was > initialised by submittiong a form. But this long Url is created via a > link not a form(get). > > Without passing nav1/nav2/qu1/qu2 to the DTMLDocument called "Result" > I try to <dtml-var "REQUEST.form['nav2']">. Nothing renders. > > Did you mean something else? Thanks again Hmm, it should work, and I can do this using Cold Fusion (I haven't tried it without a form in Zope yet, though). When a form is submitted using GET, the form variables are appended to the url exactly as you have shown, and they should be available. I suggest this: try something ***simple*** first. So create a page that has a form, and use dtml instructions to look at the url so you can verify that the variables were passed to the page. Make some dtml page or method that gives you a visible response to the form, showing the value of the variable that you sent (I like to have the response open another window so I can tell just what happened). Then paste that url into your browser so as to ask for the response without actually having any form on a page. You should see the same response. If this works, append another variable to the url and see if you get both of them. If this works, then check the exact syntax of your long url. This will be hard because it is so complex. Compare each part to the short url example that works. Also, have Zope display the entire form (<dtml "REQUEST.form">) - every dtml page has a REQUEST object and see if any part of you data gets into the form. At this point, you should have a good idea where something is not working. If you haven't seen an approach to solving the problem, then post to the list again. Seems to me that there are two main possibilities: 1) Your computer-generated long url has some syntax error in it. 2) The url is too long for some buffer. 2) seems unlikely, but you never know. Good luck, Tom P _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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Re: [Zope] www.Zope.org frontpage
by Bak ＠ kedai 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

>wicked! cool >Turn it upside down so that your products come further down (they are likely >to change less than the dynamics of the whole site) heh, it's prime space man :). i did a change, and put my stuff on the right side. >Can you also include the first couple of sentances of the howtos and Tips. >The title isn't enough. yup, changed that too > >Peter > >PS. How did you do this?? viewed dtml-source to see relevant variables, and change as needed.

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