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Re: [Zope] Zope and Dreamweaver WebDAV
by dave＠kovach.com 24 May '01

24 May '01

What I meant was can you add an IMAGE object or a special product object like from say ACTIVEIMAGES...? You would have to go back to the ZMI to add that object... Though, I am talking out my butt cause I have just been using DW to edit existing dtml objects. DK On Thu, 24 May 2001, "Jason Cunliffe" wrote: > > > Thing is - when using it - you still need to use the ZMI to add and > maintain objects correct? > > Not sure what you mean... ?? > > You can create fresh DTML from within Dreamweaver. > > Dreamweavers's main paradigm is to maintain a local folder tree with HTML+ > media content usind the 'Sites' Manager interface. This is then synchronized > up/down with the remote server. Over FTP which is its default, one is using > Zope's own FTP access to the ZODB. AS far as I know you can put and get > anything this way. > > Whether or not Dreamweaver knows how to display or edit those objects is > another matter. Dreamweaver does allow one to assign external views and > editors. This is very useful for code as well as garphics/sound etc. This is > why folowing 'conventional' 3/4 letter suffix naming habits in Zope will be > well-rewarded when using Dreamweaver. The paradigm is of course a little > broken since Dreamweaver is expecting flat file access. > > On the Zope side I find it a real advantage to use 'normal' file names as > created by other applications, such as index.html, myfile.swf, etc One > advantage is that upload and refressh from local to remote is direct and > fast. The only gotcha is Zope's "workflow-challenged" recommendation to > avoid object names with dot.names. There are ugly but effective workarounds, > and this is a major zope FAQ. > > IMHO What zope needs is really clean way to use objects which have > dot.sufixes names > > Any idea about this? > > It would be a very pragmatic boost to Zpoe workflow, expecially when graphic > designers and non-Zopisti are involved. A common Content Management Workflow > scenario is people working on XYZ local system using ABC applications, > neednig to upload/update all kinds of familiar documents .XLS, .DOC, .JPG, > .PDF., etc > > There are better and better tools now for sharing media, external files and > images, loading, parsing and cataloguing them. > ExtFile/ExtImage http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile > LocalFS http://www.zope.org/Members/jfarr/Products/LocalFS/ > ExtDocument http://www.zope.org/Members/tmclaugh/ExtDocument_news > ParsedXML http://www.zope.org/Members/karl/ParsedXML/1.0 > ZShell [many features, especially fabulous 'wget' command] > http://cortex.unice.fr/~jerome/zshell/ > > But 'Core' Zope is falling a behind in recognition of handling the objects > all the useful [essential]products enable > > For example, I use Flash5 a lot. This means there are 3 files to maintain: > source.fla [authoring], source.swf[playback over web] and > source.html[object/embed htnml wrapper code] Since any flash work involves > many versions and revisions, I need to upload source.html once, source.fla > at the end of each 'session' and for source.swf every change you want to use > on the ZopeSite. FLash5 'publish' command generates the wrapper HTML which I > then upload into an identically named DTML Method. Except for changes of the > Flash player or some special need, I forget about this one. The .FLA I > upload so I have a server-side backup which I can share with other artists. > The .SWF is uploaded as Zope 'File' object and/or using the external > products. Same applies for images. > > The 'Image' upload and smoe others, have one very nice default 'workflow]' > feature. If you don't create an Id or Title they will use the existing name > for Id and the local upload filepath for Title. I tend to use verbose names > for versions of graphics while I am working on them, but prefer very short > simple ones for Zope. Automatically using Title for my local filepath in > Zope means I can easily locate the precise file later. This sort of > behaviour needs to be made deeper and wider across Zope. It would also boost > the use of tools like Dreamweaver. The new hot ZopeIDE now being discussed > will want to resolve these issues also. > > example: > > An image I am working on may be called "sitelogo_dark_up_005.jpg" > and stored in e:\projects\Zsites\NiceClient\designcomps\logos > In Zope I might want to refer to the object as "logo_up" or "logo_up.jpg" > This is true for the various stages - while presentation to client is being > prepared, after it is 'approved', while the site is going up and being > tweaked. As soon as one works with a lot of media or other file-based > content, have to implement design changes, and more people are involved, the > problem multiplies. Keeping workflow metadata within the Zope object > prooperties is thus a really high priority. ZShell is has good interactive > tools to help manage this situation. > Dreamweaver can help one track all of this various feature. CSS style sheets > are another category. And Zope is capable but not yet oriented to this. > > I find keeping a local and remote set for Zope is both good and bad. Good > because, one has backup and work locally. Bad because there is can be > quickly confusing. There is not a natural structural synchronization between > Zope and the local file system. If you move things around in Zope you must > be sure to reflect those changes in Dreamweaver's local mapping of files and > objects, and vice versa. Dreamweaver seems to assume one will not move parts > of the site tree around. > > comments/tips welcome > > ./Jason

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Re: AW: [Zope-Annce] Formulator 0.9.1 released
by Nicola Larosa 24 May '01

24 May '01

> I get following error when I testing a field and don't enter the right > value. > > Error Type: TypeError > Error Value: not enough arguments; expected 3, got 2 It's the same error I had before unloading ZDebug. Do you have it loaded? -- Nicola Larosa - nico(a)tekNico.net

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AW: [Zope-Annce] Formulator 0.9.1 released
by Damir Bartakovic 24 May '01

24 May '01

Did anybody tried to get Formulator to work? I get following error when I testing a field and don't enter the right value. Error Type: TypeError Error Value: not enough arguments; expected 3, got 2 Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /usr/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: email_f) File /usr/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: fieldTest) File /usr/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: fieldTest) File /usr/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 324, in __call__ (Object: fieldTest) File /usr/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 354, in _bindAndExec (Object: fieldTest) File /usr/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 236, in _exec (Object: fieldTest) File /usr/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Try.py, line 212, in render File /usr/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Try.py, line 221, in render_try_except File /usr/zope/lib/python/Products/ZDebug/DTMLDebug.py, line 259, in debug_render_blocks File /usr/zope/lib/python/Products/ZDebug/DTMLDebug.py, line 239, in debugException File /usr/zope/lib/python/Products/ZDebug/DTMLDebug.py, line 184, in debugWithNamespace TypeError: (see above) If I enter a proper value, everything is alright! Any hints? cheers Damir

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Using Zope for Document Collaboration
by Mark Langkau 24 May '01

24 May '01

Hi, Forgive me if this isn't the correct list for this question. I need some design help - and suggestions of tools to use would be great. I'll take further discussions of "design" issues off line, and stick to specific Zope/tool questions here. Quick Summary: I need to take an incoming MS-Word file and break it up into sections, and post them on our Zope intranet for various employees to edit and contribute to. When completed, the sections need to be rolled back up into a single file that can be converted back to MS-Word. Users will not have access to the Zope Management Interface. Details: We have several people in multiple locations that need to edit different parts of the same document - anytime - online. My first thought is ZWiki, but I'm not sure if other options (if any) are better. (I'm a wiki newbie). We get several Request For Proposal (RFP) docs that require several departments to contribute information and answer questions. I'd like to convert the client's original file (MS-Word) into something that Zope can publish and allow edits. The users in our departments will not have access to the Zope Management Interface, and the goal is to use just a browser to call up an RFP and answer questions in sections pertaining to their own department. Anyone working on the RFP can see the entire document (no dept. restrictions). The final format back to the client is usually very specific, and again in MS-Word format, so I'm not looking to produce a "final" presentation document directly from the Zope site. However, we will need to "roll-up" all of the parts of the RFP back into a single doc for manual reformatting as required by the client. If I save the Word doc into html format, can I convert that to Structured Text and paste that into Wiki pages? Does anyone have a script that could automate this - breaking sections (based on html heading tags perhaps) into separate wiki pages? (Or even just to convert html to stx?) I'm thinking that breaking the RFP up into separate pages may minimize the chance for 2 people to save changes to the same page at the same time - or lock one page and not save all day, etc. (It'll still happen, but perhaps not as often ;-) Is there an easier way to do this? Thanks, Mark

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Re: [Zope] Zope and Dreamweaver WebDAV
by dave＠kovach.com 24 May '01

24 May '01

I too use Dreamweaver as an editor (its gotten alot better really!) and want to try and assist making it a great frontend to Zope. Though, as Jason noted - it is a total memory hog. But, lots of proven features. Thing is - when using it - you still need to use the ZMI to add and maintain objects correct? What about an ext. to be able to add objects from Dreamweaver? Thoughts... David On Thu, 24 May 2001, "Jason Cunliffe" wrote: > > David > > I have been using Dreamweaver FTP and Zope. Yes, The big problem is the lack > of suffix. This means you can not click files in the Dreamweaver Site > manager to load. But you _can_ drag Zope items onto the main Dreamweaver > window! This works in version 3 and 4. So it's pretty easy to change Zope > form styles or edit anything this way. > > Using Dreamweaver with Zope makes one reconsider Zope object naming schemes. > If one is more systematic in zope adn/or use siffixes, it is much easier to > make Dreamweaver more responsive. However this does not apply to all the > builtin Zope code. It is a shame there is not a wildcard filename featre in > Dreamweaver which would allow special recognition within the Site Manager, > based on any input. For those whoh deevlop Dreamweaver Extensions, this is > probably not that complicated even. > > I think nobody has really needed to - until Zope. And since so few Zopisti > are graphic design inclined, and since Zope workflow is still a raw and > undeveloped topic, this reamins sadly negelected. Stronger Dreamweaver Zope > features would make Zope a much easier 'sell' to potentital clients their > CTOs. Also a good way to make a wider audience aware of Zope. > > I did not know about the WebDav extension. Thanks - I will try it. > Mostly I find WebDav rather slow. Maybe just my setup here [Win98se 500Mhz > 192Mb]. > > Dreamweaver is a memory hog. But Version 4 is nice with Zope because of > various options for rendering pages, view HTML + source etc.. If only it > were really linked to Zope and could go 'fetch' DTML and Zope objects in a > timely manner. Still there is a lott of work one can do. > > There is a Zope <dtml> tag extension for Dreamweaver. Works with 3 & 4. > Places a little DTML-START adn DTML-STOP gifs inline which you can access. > Somewhat useful dependnig on your style of use in Dreamweaver. > http://www.zope.org/Members/johanc/Dreamweaver3 > > Please let me know if you make progress with this > > hth > ./Jason > ___________________________________________________________ > Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS['Interactive Art and Technology'] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Legg" <d.legg(a)ncl.ac.uk> > To: "Zope List" <zope(a)zope.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:04 AM > Subject: [Zope] Zope and Dreamweaver WebDAV > > > > Hi, > > > > I can access a Zope site through Dreamweaver WebDAV, but opening Zope > > documents presents a problem as they do not have a conventional file > > extension - .html, .js etc. I can vaguely remember a work around for this, > > but I had no use for it at the time. Anybody using Dreamweaver WebDAV and > > Zope at the moment have any ideas and any further tips? I have the > > Dreamweaver WebDAV patch downloaded from the Macromedia website. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > David Legg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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How to get raw upload data from POST?
by Brad Clements 24 May '01

24 May '01

I'm working to upload ADO recordsets in XML format. I use the XMLHTTP object to POST raw <?xml> text as the "body" of the post. Content-Type isn't set in the POST request. I'm trying to figure out how to read() the body of the post. Seems the FieldStorage is doing something I can't figure out. REQUEST.read() doesn't work REQUEST.stdin.read() doesn't work (from an external method) REQUEST._file is None I don't want to fake up a form post.. How do I get at the body of the post through REQUEST? Brad Clements, bkc(a)murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements

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XML-RPC, ZSQL, and Python-Scripts - an example
by Steve Drees 24 May '01

24 May '01

Following up to my own post Re: XML-RPC marshalling. First the givens. ZSQL Method: view_sql # # Schema (Postgres) # entry_title varchar # entry_username varchar # entry_body varchar # entry_timestamp timestamp # <params></params> select * from weblog where entry_username ='steve' order by entry_timestamp desc ## Script (Python) "view" ##bind container=container ##bind context=context ##bind namespace= ##bind script=script ##bind subpath=traverse_subpath ##parameters= ##title= ## items=[] for item in context.view_sql(): new_dict = {'title':item.entry_title, 'username':item.entry_username, 'body':item.entry_body, 'timestamp':item.entry_timestamp} items.append(new_dict) return items -------------------------------------------------------- [drees@gfa drees]$ python Python 1.5.2 (#1, Dec 21 2000, 15:29:08) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- on linux-i386 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam >>> import xmlrpclib >>> s=xmlrpclib.Server('http://somedomain.com') >>> for i in s.view(): ... print i['title'], i['timestamp'] ... print i['body'] ... <output snipped> you get the idea from here... -- Steve Drees SysAdmin/Software Developer/Web Geek/Chief Bottle Washer "A problem well-stated is a problem half-solved." http://stve.wejustrock.com

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Accessing the subfolders in zope
by Bobby Mathew 24 May '01

24 May '01

Hi all I need some advice as to how i access the subfolder of a folder. This is my code so far but i seem to be stuck. any help appreciated. I have a folder called eSessions and under which i have created another folder (say xyz) which i am passing as a parameter to this python script. My aim is to access that subfolder and add a property as shown below but i am confused how to access this xyz subfolder ??? The fname varialbe is passed with xyz in it as an argument. container.fname.addProperty('memberid',1,int) (this line gives me a problem) print propertyItems return printed thanks bobby

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converting from XMLdocument to parsedXML
by ed colmar 24 May '01

24 May '01

Hey Friends! I'm in the process of converting to parsedXML, and after browsing the zope-xml archives, I'm still stumped... Maybe it's too early in the morning to think about this... =) Can anyone that's using the parsedXML product, offer me a few hints? I don't think I'm too far off. Here's what I'm trying to achieve: def update(self, client_url): """ Fetch the content from a remote url and rebuild the client. """ import urllib # URL tools from Products.ParsedXML import ParsedXML, Printer, ExtraDOM, DOM import DateTime # date calculations globalURL=client_url # retreive XML file resourceURL=globalURL + "localResources.xml" f=urllib.urlopen(resourceURL) # parse RSS file to DOM using parsedXML d=ParsedXML.parseXML(f) # get node attributes c=d.getElementsByTagName('StarRaveData')[0] self.link=c.text_content('localSRSiteURL') srversion=c.text_content('CurrentSRVersion') # get djs djlist=d.getElementsByTagName('StarRaveDJ') for StarRaveDJ in djlist: # get information about the item djid=StarRaveDJ.text_content('SRDJID') djname=StarRaveDJ.text_content('SRDJName') city=StarRaveDJ.text_content('SRDJCity') state=StarRaveDJ.text_content('SRDJState') country=StarRaveDJ.text_content('SRDJCountry') # add the DJ self.addDj(djid, djname, city, state, country) return 1

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