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Sourceforge-like product for Zope?
by Darin Basil Arrick 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Is there a product for Zope which would give functionality similar to the sourceforge.net site? Thanks

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Re: Re'f. : Re: [Zope] Running zope on port 80
by Dieter Maurer 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Francois-regis Chalaoux writes: > # User id to run ZServer as. Note that this only works under Unix, and if > # ZServer is started by root. > UID='nobody' > > This is not effective on NT server. Does NT prevent you to use port 80 as a normal user (as Unix does). If not, you do not need this user switching. Dieter

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Re: [Zope] Add a property with a class constructor
by Dieter Maurer 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

=?iso-8859-1?q?Herv=E9=20Richard?= writes: > In a foder i can write a dtml-method like this, but from the constructor ? > > <dtml-with "PARENTS[0]"> > ... You replace "PARENTS[0]" with the newly created object. Your object must be a PropertyManager for the "manage_addProperty" to be available. Otherwise, you may need to add properties to a property sheet. See embedded Zope Online Help --> Zope Help --> API Reference --> * whether PropertySheets support adding new preperties. Dieter

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Re: URL quoting from a Python script
by Tim Moore 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

"Evan Simpson" <evan(a)digicool.com> writes: > From: "Tim Moore" <tmoore(a)tembel.org> > > I know that dtml-var has the url_quote_plus attribute, but is > > there a way to do the same thing from a python script? Or, for > > that matter, any of the other text-munging functions that dtml-var > > supports? > > You can import them from Products.PythonScripts.standard, as in: > > from Products.PythonScripts.standard import url_quote_plus > return url_quote_plus(txt) > > There are one or two other useful bits in this module. fantastic! thank you! is this module documented online somewhere? -- Tim Moore

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Forking the Mailing List
by Brian Hickman 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Forking the mailing list may make sense, except for the idea of a "NEWBIES" list. In any community, the ignorant learn by listening to the more experienced. I suggest that the real problem is not that this mailing list covers too many topics, but that we need a better way to preserve, organize and retrieve the questions and the better answers. In parallel to forking the list, I propose that we, as a community, with DC's guidance, determine the best way to capture the value of the mailing list -- a repository of problems faced by members, coupled with solutions from other members. My proposal is that DC builds or blesses a detailed topic map re. knowledge of Zope (Installation, RDMS, DTML, Security, the various products, etc.) on Zope.org, and invites members to contribute to filling in the topic map with questions, answers, example code, etc. A FAQ + a topic map. ZDP started this process, but this tool needs to be the first thing one thinks of before they ask the list a question. I would love to buy a book that extracted the best questions and answers/examples found on this list in the last two years, weeded out the fluff, and organized the rest. Brian

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factoring and personnel
by Chris Gray 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Zope can separate data, logic, and presentation and have them all available as managed content. As we begin to mix Zope into our legacy site, I'm wondering how best to leverage this. In particular, I'm wondering about how not to have the two people who know Zope now have to do everything that uses Zope, without expecting staff who have enough trouble as it is with HTML trying to cope with Python or SQL or even the more esoteric parts of DTML. Has anyone written up more details on this subject, for instance, guidance on how to get the best fit between your staff's expertise and Zope's factoring capabilities? Has anyone laid out the training needs for staff specializations? Chris

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ZMySQLDA or ZMySQLDA
by Harald Koschinski 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Hallo, as I can see there are two independent DatabaseAdapters for MySQL. The first is from mordred with the current versions 1.1.4 (stable) and 1.2.0 (developement), http://www.zope.org/Members/mordred/ZMySQLDA. The second one is from andy dustman with current version 2.0.6 , http://www.zope.org/Members/adustman/Products/ZMySQLDA. I am running now zope 2.2.4 with ZMySQLDA 1.1.3 (the first one) without any problems. Now I will update to zope 2.3.2, so I am thinking again about the right adapter. Can anybody give me some informations about the advantages / disadvantages of both adapters. Why are there 2 different adapteres doing the same thing. Any help is welcome. Thank you zopistas. Regards Harald _____________________________________________________________________ FRIATEC Aktiengesellschaft Informationssysteme und Organisation Tel. 0621 - 486 - 1454 Fax. 0621 - 486 - 1840 Steinzeugstrasse 50 mailto:harald.koschinski@friatec.de D-68229 Mannheim

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Location of ZODB
by Francois-regis Chalaoux 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Hi, Is it possible to store ZODB (var directory) on an another machine than the machine where is stored the "Zope directory" ? FR

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Re: [Zope] asp request and response objects
by David Kovach 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Thanks David. That does help. I think my confusion is in thinking about concepts from the ASP world and seeing how they are emulated at least in concept. Many of the flaws of ASP - most of which exist in the design pattern (or lack thereof) of how applications are built dont carry over into the ZOpe world due to its OO nature. Do you agree with this? I see the obvious difference of elements (what as you said would of been included in the asp world) being called as objects and pages being built from a few tags with supporting code contained in each tag object. >From that point - what is best practice? In terms of business logic and application logic - how do you (coming from ASP also) structure your pages and applications with Zope? Are you in fact using DTML to build pages and within each object your referencing other objects, html, and python scripts or what? I would be interested to see (or help design/draw up) some architecture diagrams showing process and program flows... this would be helpful to newbies like myself - which there are sure to more of. Now is the time to rally the troops - before .NET hits the public airwaves. thanks again, David Kovach dave(a)kovach.com SAP >From: "David Burton" <eloquence(a)eloquent-designs.f2s.com> >To: <dave(a)kovach.com> >Subject: Re: [Zope] asp request and response objects >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:12:01 +0100 > >You seem to have a slightly confused idea of how to use ZOPE, but that's >perfectly normal - it kinda does that to everyone initially. >As an ASP developer that's trying to use ZOPE as much as possible, there >are >various things that would be done using databases >and a reasonable amount of code that you can do in a few lines of DTML. >For example, dynamic news lists, or dynamic thumbnail libraries can be done >more easily, and also things that there are products for. > >As for the response object - you have some of the functions replicated in >other features, but you don't have the response object as such. Instead of >response.write you'd use print in python scripts (but remember to use >'return printed' at the end of the script). > >WRT the request object, the variables can be accessed from the REQUEST >object. For form processing, you would often just refer to the field names >(e.g. to print the username field from the processing script in DTML, use ><dtml-var username>). > >The first difference that I've seen is that is more forces you to structure >your pages to be more object oriented - relating it to ASP, you're more >thinking of breaking things down to sub-pages, that in ASP you'd do by >creating an ASP with various include statements in. >The second is that you gradually become aware that you're working in an >object hierarchy all the time, which means that you can create a folder >full >of documents, and more readily print details about each dynamically. > >Unless you need to share the data with other applications, sticking with >the >ZODB in preference to a relational database is often a good idea, although >as an ASP user initially it can be easier to get one of the ODBC database >adaptors, and creating a few SQL queries, etc and DTML to process them, >which will give you a better feel for the object-orientation of ZOPE while >keeping the returning/changing data parts themselves well within the common >ground with ASP (ie SQL statements). > >Hope this helps, >David Burton >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Kovach" <davidkovach(a)hotmail.com> >To: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:38 AM >Subject: [Zope] asp request and response objects > > > > Hi - > > > > Just getting on board with Zope and Python... > > converting over from MS ASP web application > > development AND dont want to invest/waste time > > with JSP or servlets for that matter. > > > > I look forward to seeing how to further work > > with ZOPE with XML/XSLT - page templates cool! > > > > (end of my blah intro!) > > > > Can anyone share with me in simple terms - how > > ZOPE replicates or depracates the ASP object > > of REQUEST and RESPONSE to build dynamic pages?? > > > > And I have read and seem to assume that keeping > > logic to add dynamic content should be kept to > > Python code thats called from a DTML method or > > something??? Set me straight... > > > > Thanks - and I look forward to interacting > > with you all more... > > > > Sincerely, > > > > David Kovach > > dave(a)kovach.com > > dave.kovach(a)sap.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Proposal of forking the zope@zope.org list
by Dario Lopez-K�sten 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Hello co-zopers! The mailload on zope(a)zope.org is quite large and I dare suggest that I am not the only one having some sort of difficulty in sorting out the various topics on the list. I propose that we split^H^H^Hfork the zope(a)zope.org into the following sublists, which of course only reveal my own topics of interest, but I have the feeling that they would actually prove useful, especially for new users. The proposed list of lists :) reflect topics that I feel are frequently discussed and/or topics where there is no obvious preferred way of doing things: Proposed list Proposed topic ------------- -------------- zope-db - Disscussion of (external & gadfly) database access to/from Zope zope-um - Discussion on how to manage users, and the various products to extend/replace built-in zope user management zope-ws - Discussion on how to use zope with other webservers (like apache, squid, etc) and related techniques/products (rewrite rules, SiteAccess, VHM, fast_cgi, etc) zope-adm - Discussion on how to administer zope and problems/bugs related to this zope - Current list. mostly on how to develop IN zope (as opposed to zope-dev which is on how to develop zope). Here are discussions on DTML and stuff... zope-newbies - For the zopistas-to-be :-) Topics for new users, simpler howtos, best practices, etc... Cooments? Cheers, /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario(a)ita.chalmers.se ICQ: 14142275 (seldom) IT Systems & Services

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