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another positive review.
by ghaley＠mail.venaca.com 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

hi folks, in keeping with the recent string of positive news. zope received a very positive evaluation in WebTechniques Magazine in the April 2001 issue. the review is on-line at: www.webtechniques.com/archives/2001/infrrevu/ all in all fairly accurate. ciao! greg. Gregory Haley DBA/Web Programmer Venaca, LLC.

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Zope mentioned in eweek Apr 2 2001
by Jeff Sasmor 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

For those who might care about it, there's an ~ 1/3 page article about Zope in the Pings&Packets section of EWeek magazine for April 2, 2001. And, for those of you who have never seen his visage, it includes a picture of Paul Everitt! Jeff Sasmor jeff(a)sasmor.com

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Parrot Language a Hoax?
by Jonathan Byron 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

The date of the press release on the merger of python and perl have made a few people wonder just how serious it is, not to mention the fact that the two languages are so dissimilar that merging them is like merging English and Chinese. Seriously, how do you reconcile a concise language with one right way to do something with a flexible language that lets you do something anyway you want?? Something that was designed to be OO from the start with something that wasn't?? Would any existing scripts in either Python or Perl run on the new Parrot language? Or is it part of the Babylon of new languages - Yet Another Language to Learn?? On the other hand, even though Parrot may be a hoax, the idea is not dead, deceased, or expired - merely sleeping. JB

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Re: [Zope] zSQl and changing connection ids?
by Dieter Maurer 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

David Hassalevris writes: > .... A Z SQL method consists of the connection id, the parameters and the SQL template You want to share the parameters and the template but vary the connection id. I think it is not a good idea to dynamically change the connection id to handle this case. You object would be changed continously and create lots of artificial versions - a bad thing. I would create several SQL methods that share a common SQL template. I fear, you would need to replicate the parameter parts. Thus, you would have: Z SQL method<n>: Connection: different ones according to object Parameters: explicit copies of the parameter list Template: <dtml-var common-template> It may be (I fear it will be) that you can not use "dtml-sql*" tags in "common-template". In this case, you have 2 options: * emulate the "dtml-sql*" tags by normal tags * make a small product that makes the "dtml-sql*" tags generally available Dieter

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RE: [Zope] Searching a FieldIndex for prefix or OR
by Randall F. Kern 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

Sure, I'd love a place to start. -Randy > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@digicool.com] > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:51 PM > To: Randall F. Kern > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Searching a FieldIndex for prefix or OR > > > "Randall F. Kern" wrote: > > > > Is it possible to search a catalog on a field index for > either a given > > prefix, or any of a list of values? > > > > Maybe I'm going about this wrong; I want to add the ability > to only show > > objects found below a specific place on my site, and to do that I > > created a field index on the path to each object. Then at > query time I > > would like to search for /foo/bar/*, or failing that create > a list of > > all paths below /foo/bar and create an OR query. > > > > The solution I'm using now is to post-process the search > results, but > > that seems lame :) > > Yes, it is lame. And no, it's not possible with a FieldIndex. ;-) > > There's a proposal floating around verbally at DC to create a > "PathIndex" that has this behavior. I think Tres actually > sent me some > code for it at some point. You want that I should look it up and send > it to you? > > - C >

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Re: Re: [Zope] to zope or not
by Win GO 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

>Well, how does digging a hole with a bulldozer compare to >doing it with a shovel? You can accomplish some of the same >things by using Apache alone, but you'll end up doing a lot >more work for a much smaller result. does that mean that Zope can do what Apache can, and some more (like animation and stuff)? > >P.S. from your companies perspective, a 'con' might be that >it's harder to find experienced Zope developers. but that >might be a 'pro' for you, as it gives you more job security. that seems to be the case here in my country. =( here are other questions: * if we are to have somebody trained or devote some time to learning Zope, what would be basic skills that the person should have? (ie. programming/scripting languages, html, etc.) * How long will such learning process take? (before we can have a running and functioning site) __________________________________ www.edsamail.com

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Re: [Zope] PageTemplates - TAL configuration
by Philip Aylesworth 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

>> Error Type: AttributeError >> Error Value: _v_blocks > This is a strange one. I'll have to try installing a setup like > yours from > scratch to see if I can replicate it; My CVS checkouts work fine. I am getting the exact same thing. I have RedHat 7.0 with a fresh install of Zope 2.3.1 and only TAL 1.0.0 and PageTemplates 1.0.0 added. I tried previously with ParsedXML-1.0, as well, and got the same error. Do I need ParsedXML-1.0? The TAL seems to work fine from the command line using the test script. -- Philip Aylesworth Purple Duck Computer Services

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Unpickling errors with 2.3.1 & ZEO
by Chris McDonough 03 Apr '01

03 Apr '01

Just FYI... we've been able to reproduce errors reported by bak@kedai regarding "stack underflow errors" using Zope 2.3.1 in conjunction with ZEO. We're working on a fix now. The problem does not seem to happen in Zope 2.3.1 without ZEO. I'll keep you posted.

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"manage" screens don't appear on local workstation for Win2000
by Thomas B. Passin 02 Apr '01

02 Apr '01

I just moved my Zope installation to Windows 2000. Now when I try to use any management screens, I get the default index_html pages instead. So I can't change anything or develop content. I can still access the management screens from a separate computer, but I need to work on my own machine, the one that Zope is running on. Zope is running as a service, by the way. Same result with both Zope 2.2.6 and 2.3.0, even with a completely fresh clean installation. I had no problems like this on an NT4 server. I'm out of ideas - anyone have a solution? Tom Passin

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Re: GoLive and WebDAV
by Jeffrey P Shell 02 Apr '01

02 Apr '01

On 4/2/01 6:40 AM, "Paul Everitt" <paul(a)digicool.com> wrote: > > I'm cc'ing in Jeffrey "Mr. GoLive" Shell. Jeffrey, please respond to > the Zope list with answers to Chris' questions. > > Here's my shot, though, on your three points. > > 1) Put .html on your Zope ids. But if you're saying that we don't send > back the content type on the source port, then that's gotta be a bug. It doesn't. But one of the reasons that it doesn't is that a DTML Method can actually impersonate a lot of things, just by having the first line being: Content-type: application/x-msword DTML Methods themselves don't know that this is set until render time, so the content type WebDAV property never quite works with them. I *believe* ZPT should be architected to handle this issue better, but DTML Methods never were. This is the biggest thing though that I'd like to see fixed in the next GoLive - better content sniffing. I believe it should at least *try* to open something it doesn't recognize. But then again, if you have the items 'connect' and 'openConnection' in a folder, can you tell which one is a database connection? I'm guessing that GoLive 5 errs on the side of conservatism by trying *not* to open unrecognized objects, since WebDAV is also being used by others as a way of getting data into an object database and, like in Zope, not everything is easily rendered into something that can be edited over WebDAV. > 2) I guess the answer here is the same as (1). I can't think of a > better solution. Perhaps something like getting the PUT handler to look > for a meta type? That way you could encode in your documents the > meta_type you'd like to create. Just seems kludgy though. Hack the PUT > factory in the folder, and make sure anything you stick in there is > going to be of the same type (or spend some extra time on the logic). > > 3) Doing a "site" means creating a site file on your local box, I > believe. > > Regarding locks...make sure you use the latest-and-greatest in CVS. > Jeffrey put lock support into the trunk, so it will be there in Zope > 2.4. Yep. You'll need the Zope trunk/ Zope 2.4 for this. If you want to make your own objects lockable, you should read over the document in the WriteLocking project at dev.zope.og: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WriteLocking/BeingLockable Jeffrey P Shell, jeffrey(a)Digicool.com http://www.digicool.com/ | http://www.zope.org

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