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SybaseDAv2 with Sybase 11.0.3.3?
by Scott Anderson 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

Hi all, I'm trying to build the new DC Sybase DA, but there are a number of #defines missing from my ctpublic.h file since I'm use Sybase 11.0.3.3. Has anyone else gotten it to compile/work with 11.0.3.3? Thanks, -scott

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BannerFolder ( wasRe: [Zope-dev] TIP: Must enable 'new' for FreeBSD Python 1.5.2 port to install PythonMethods)
by Petru Paler 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 02:54:13PM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote: > > > reinstall. Once I did that, PythonMethods comes up fine and other products > > > (like BannerFolder-0.3) that rely on it, install as well. > > > > As a side note. *Don't* use BannerFolder's counters. You will get the > > banner copied for each impression :-/ > > > What Counters? Are you talking about the hits, views, or remaining_views > ? > Inguiring minds need to know. :) All of them. Incremeting a property causes a transaction -> one more copy of the banner. > > FWIW, I am in the middle of a 'rewrite' of that product. I am adding the > ability to 'weight' banners, view reports, and track click-throughs. > Other changes are that it is being written in Python instead of > ZClasses. Then you'd better use something else for the stats (SQL, flat files, whatever). -Petru

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Re: [Zope] methods of a few zope objects
by Tres Seaver 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

Andrew <ad4v(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Greetings: I'm looking for documentation on the methods and variables > of a few internal zope objects, so I can use them in external python > code. > > Namely the file object, the image object, and the DTML method object. I > have no problem poking through source code, if I know which file to > look in. Haven't found anything concise in the documentations. You want the Zope Quick Reference: http://www.zope.org/Members/ZQR -- ========================================================= Tres Seaver tseaver(a)palladion.com 713-523-6582 Palladion Software http://www.palladion.com

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Re: [Zope] Python object lifecycle?
by Tres Seaver 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

Robb Shecter <shecter(a)darmstadt.gmd.de> wrote: > > Jerry Spicklemire wrote: > > > Not to start a "what IS client server?" discussion (I thought we got past > > that in the last millenium), > > Yes. > > > but it looks to me like Zope IS the middle > > layer. > > > > Hmmm... I don't know about that. I guess it can be... > > > > > In terms of layers, the browser "front end" handles presentation (client), > > the "back-end" (data server, host) is an RDB, or CD tower (of image files), > > or whatever, then the integration layer "middle" is Zope. > > I disagree. (OK, I admit that this is somewhat silly, because there's really > many layers here, and what we call them isn't all that important.) > > A browser is a weird thing. It's not really a full client on it's own, since > DHTML / Javascript really sort of died. Now, a Java applet in a browser -is- > a front-end to me. But, using just plain html in the browser means that the > front end must be split between the client and server. > > So, what you get is this: > > { "Pure-HTML" in browser scenario } > > Name: Front End > Responsibilities: Reacting to user input, rendering information > Location: Split between a web browser and an HTML/HTTP server. (CGI, Zope, > Servlet, etc.) * DTML, which creates the "presentation" of underlying Python objects, handles this role. > > Name: Middle Tier > Responsibilities: Business Logic. Ie: user authentication, rule enforcement, > brokering, trading, bus-like behavior. > Location: On the same or different computer as the HTML/HTTP server. * ZClasses and Python products fill the "business logic" role * The Zope framework handles security (authentication and authorization). * ZCatalog does some of what I think you mean by brokering and trading. * ZPublisher is an ORB, so it does some brokering and provides the "bus" (again, if I understand you). > > Name: Backend / Datastore ZODB and ZSQL handle this (along with the various Storage implementations underlying ZODB). > ..... > > So, the issue here seems to be that Zope absolutely does the Front-End stuff. > (Plain old content management, style-like HTML rendering, etc.) But, the real > questions are does / should / can Zope do the middle tier stuff? > > Usually it's nice middle tier is a long running process. It can be programmed > in an OO style, and in a *stateful* manner. It is generally *essential* in any system big enough to yield ROI for n-tier. > > It looks like Zope's answer here is to write Python classes that get used as > external methods. What's not clear to me is how these Python objects live and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- see above: most will be in Python products or ZClasses. > die, and when. * Some objects are "persistent," that is, their lifetime extends beyond the boundary of the transaction which creates them. These are normally stored in the ZODB, which handles the incarnation/etherialization of them trans- parently, based on demand. Any object which can be manipulated through the managemement interface falls under this heading. * Other objects are "transient," created to handle a given request; they die when the request terminates. E.g.: - Results objects created from a ZSQL method (the "brains" object) - The REQUEST and RESPONSE objects themselves. In conclusion, I would say that, by your crieria, Zope partakes of all three layers; by Jerry's, Zope is the middle tier (I would guess that Jerry would call ZODB's storage back-end, though). -- ========================================================= Tres Seaver tseaver(a)palladion.com 713-523-6582 Palladion Software http://www.palladion.com

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Re: Re: [Zope] WorldPilot Calendar function error
by WorldPilot Helpers 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

> Jack Ungerleider wrote: > > > > First off let me say that WorldPilot its slick. I have been banging on it for a > > while and I can't seem to get around the following problem. Whenever I add > > an event to the calendar I get the error message and traceback shown below. > > > > I have tried a variety of combinations. This particular instance was with no > > adjustments to the date-time defaults. As far as I can tell its croaking on the > > redisplay. > > > > Ryan are you out there? Any suggestions? Anyone else on the list used > > WorldPilot's calendar without a problem? > > > > TIA for any suggestions. > > > I'll confirm this. I've been getting it since the betas. > > It seems to happen whenever I go to access a shared calendar. > :( I'd like to look into the problem. Does you calendar work when you look into your own? Do you only get an error when accessing a shared calendar? the called Frame info (URL) might be handy, too. Cheers, Ryan > > -- > In flying I have learned that carelessness and overconfidence are > usually far more dangerous than deliberately accepted risks. > -- Wilbur Wright in a letter to his father, September 1900 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > --------------------------------------------------- WorldPilot - Get Synced - http://www.worldpilot.org The Open Source Personal Information Manager Server Powered by Python and Zope - http://www.zope.org

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ImportError: No module named sha
by darcy w. christ 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

Hi Zopers, i'm trying to install zope on FreeBSD 2.2.8. i got this error. Have you ever seen it before? i know sha has to do with the way that the password is encrypted but i didn't realize that i might need something other than python. i'm using the latest source. Any thoughts? i appreciate the help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ setting dir permissions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ creating default database chmod 0600 /u/.2/p/portrait/Zope-2.1.4-src/var/Data.fs Traceback (innermost last): File "w_pcgi.py", line 111, in ? if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv[0]) File "w_pcgi.py", line 109, in main import wo_pcgi; wo_pcgi.main(me) File "/u/.2/p/portrait/Zope-2.1.4-src/wo_pcgi.py", line 107, in main import zpasswd; zpasswd.write_access(home, user, group) File "/u/.2/p/portrait/Zope-2.1.4-src/zpasswd.py", line 90, in ? import sys, string, sha, binascii, whrandom, getopt, getpass, os ImportError: No module named sha -- ~darcy w. christ Elegant Communications Inc. 416.362.9772 x222 | 416.362.8324 fax

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Re: Re: [Zope] WorldPilot Calendar function error - Fix available
by WorldPilot Helpers 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

> At 9:57 pm -0600 17/2/00, Jack Ungerleider wrote: > >First off let me say that WorldPilot its slick. I have been banging > >on it for a > >while and I can't seem to get around the following problem. Whenever I add > >an event to the calendar I get the error message and traceback shown below. > > > >I have tried a variety of combinations. This particular instance was with no > >adjustments to the date-time defaults. As far as I can tell its > >croaking on the > >redisplay. > > > >Ryan are you out there? Any suggestions? Anyone else on the list used > >WorldPilot's calendar without a problem? > > > >TIA for any suggestions. > > > > Worldpilot....tres cool. > > But, anyone got a fix for this? (yeah I know, softwares been out for > hours and *already* I'm complaining!). I've got a fix for the problem, that handles this case of Events more gentle. There's a new release posted at www.worldpilot.org (worldpilot-release.1.0.1.tar) > Thing is, I've got one of our Perl-heads here wetting himself over > this (shared calendar, IMAP mail) and I want to keep the pressure up! > :) Keep that pressure up :-) Cheers, Ryan > > In the past we have tried getting a Netscape Calendar Server up and > running to solve our shared calendar situations - people, don't go > there, it is, as they say, a mountain of pain! :( > > tone. > ------ > Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project > http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ > The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 > Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > --------------------------------------------------- WorldPilot - Get Synced - http://www.worldpilot.org The Open Source Personal Information Manager Server Powered by Python and Zope - http://www.zope.org

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Re: [Zope] Apache? Proxy? PCGI? ZServer?
by Jon Prettyman 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

I've had problems with a Proxy/SiteAccess/GenericUserFolder situation. Specifically, trying to ``/manage'' this site has various problems keeping track of authentication information. Another oddity is occasionally ``manage_workspace '' calls to folders within the SiteRoot end up displaying the folder instead of the manage interface. -Jon "Evan Simpson" <evan(a)4-am.com> writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: J. Atwood <Jatwood(a)bwanazulia.com> > > 2) ZServer Behind Apache + Proxy - This is the second fastest and is > > relatively easy (have done it once). I get my Apache logs, SSL (I think) > but > > It require SiteAcesss product which could (and seems to) conflict with > other > > products/functionality. > > Not *too* much, I hope. The only "conflict" which I am certain still exists > in v1.0.0 is between virtual hosts trying to access the same ZCatalog. > > That said, you shouldn't need SiteAccess for a proxying solution if your > *entire* site will be proxied. For example... > > ProxyPass / http://zopeserver:8080/ > > ...shouldn't require any adjustments to Zope.

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User Authentication Question
by James W. Howe 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

I have a folder which contains several objects, including subfolders. Some of the subfolders I have locked down so that only a manager can do anything with them. However, if I log in as a non-manager to the management interface of the parent folder I these locked down folders appear in the contents list. It seems to me that if any object isn't visible to the currently authenticated user, the object shouldn't be displayed in a contents list. Is this a bug, a feature, or a misunderstanding on my part about how authentication and object visibility should work? Thanks. James W. Howe mailto:jwh@allencreek.com Allen Creek Software, Inc. pgpkey: http://ic.net/~jwh/pgpkey.html Ann Arbor, MI 48103

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ZDiscussions ... how to install ?
by Darcy Clark 18 Feb '00

18 Feb '00

I note that someone has already asked this question (http://www.egroups.com/list/zope/md1584078544.html) but I have to ask it again as I have run into exactly the same barrier. I downloaded ZDiscussions 0.2.0 and installed everything as per instructions - as per instructions I also read the included readme's with the package. Unfortunately, I still don't grasp exactly how to use ZDiscussions....I got Confera to work....I can add both from my Add menu, but only Confera supplies something that is renderable. Adding a "ZDiscussion" seems to add a folder but no obvious hints on exactly what happens next are apparent. I have a sneaking suspicion that are we supposed to generate our own methods to render the ZDiscussion content....? cheers, Darcy -- --------------------------------------------------- Ph: (734) 764 3377 Email: darcyc(a)engin.umich.edu URL: http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ --------------------------------------------------- 'If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate' ..... Steven Wright

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