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RE: [Zope] Software for Zope
by Alexander Staubo 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

I second the idea! The contribution page right now is pretty tight -- a first-time user will have no idea, for example, what "TinyTables" is by looking at the page. Reorganizing the software part of zope.org better would not only be functional, but also serve as a nice example of a dynamic Zope-built web section. And why not mix supported and unsupported software? It would be cool if most Zope tools and products -- including database adapters and components -- could be put in the same hierarchy. Moreover you should permit moderated third-party uploads, perhaps with a section called "Incoming", a holding pen for unmoderated, recently uploaded software. I think this section could be nearly autonomous, since moderating the uploads would steal very little of DC's precious time, at least theoretically -- plus, recognized authors could be given privileged access to the database (automatic acceptance of uploads, and ability to maintain own product information). Ties in rather nicely with ZPT, doesn't it? Be Inc.'s BeDepot site (http://www.bedepot.com/) could be a fitting template here, albeit on a smaller scale until the library grows (nay, swells!). -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "What the hell, he thought, you're only young once, and threw himself out of the window. That would at least keep the element of surprise on his side." --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Tom >Deprez >Sent: 12. juni 1999 22:37 >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: [Zope] Software for Zope > > >Hi, > >I've here a proposition and I'm wondering if people would find >it usefull or >not. > >At the Zope site, you can find a directory with all the >contributed software >in one list. I'm wondering if we can't split it up a bit and >with some more >information. Maybe we can start a new Zope Site? or if we may, >put it in >Zope site itself, ... or perhaps in ZDP (although this is not >really full >documentation related). > >What about splitting up the software in categories, like >Portals, news group >software, navigation, .... > >Then for every product, we place the following info (besides of the >creators, home-page?, ...) : > >-An introduction to what the product does and is. >-A small demo example (like slides or animated gifs we've seen >at Portal >toolkit) >-For which versions of Zope it is tested. >-A newsgroup or mailing list to which people can subscribe to >kept informed >about that product. > >What you all think about this? > >Tom. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Name of top level folder
by Alex.Thomas＠dresdnerkb.com 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Next challenge is to be a bit more selective about which documents are displayed in the tree. For instance, could I not include objects with a 'dontIndex' property set by filtering the list that ObjectValues returns? No idea how to code this, probably something to do with map or apply sorta things, if anyone has the answer to hand this should keep me quiet for a bit! thanks a lot alex -----Original Message----- From: Alex.Thomas(a)dresdnerkb.com [mailto:Alex.Thomas@dresdnerkb.com] Sent: 11 June 1999 03:31 To: zope(a)zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Name of top level folder Ah, brilliant - the expr keyword comes to the rescue. Many thanks, don't think I would have found that for a long time. As I'm now indebted to you and the list, I might make the very modest contribution of the DTML that makes the multiline tree headings line up neatly. Well, it's a start... cheers alex -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Staubo [mailto:alex@mop.no] Sent: 11 June 1999 02:49 To: Zope Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [Zope] Name of top level folder You might be confusing "name" with "id" or "title". You're right, the root object does not have a name, but that should stop you from including it in iterations, or the tree tag. To tell the #tree tag to start at the top, do:    Note that, for obvious reasons, the top level will not be included in the tree. (If you're wondering how the hierarchical tree seen in the Zope management screens manages to include the root object, this isn't a trick performed just with the #tree tag. See zope/lib/python/Ap/menu.dtml for the DTML code.) -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" --Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >Alex.Thomas(a)dresdnerkb.com >Sent: 11. juni 1999 02:34 >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: RE: [Zope] Name of top level folder > > >If I have a document http:/mysite/index_html then if that >document calls >#tree I think PARENTS[0] would be the name of the top level >folder. However, >I can't use it (or PARENTS[-1] etc.) - raises a KeyError - so >I suspect that >there is no name for this folder, which is a bit of a shame... > >alex > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alexander Staubo [mailto:alex@mop.no] >Sent: 11 June 1999 01:33 >To: Zope Mailing List (E-mail) >Subject: RE: [Zope] Name of top level folder > > >PARENTS[-1] will get you the top-level folder object, if that's what >you're asking. > >-- >Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ >"`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" >--Douglas Adams, _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of >>Alex.Thomas(a)dresdnerkb.com >>Sent: 10. juni 1999 23:36 >>To: zope(a)zope.org >>Subject: [Zope] Name of top level folder >> >> >>OK, an easy one - what's the Name of the top level folder? I >>need it to pass >>to the #tree tag so it displays the whole structure. >> >>Thanks! >> >>alex ########################################## This email, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged and/or confidential. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender on the number printed above, via the Dresdner Kleinwort Benson switchboard on +44 171 623 8000 or via e-mail return. Internet communications are not secure unless protected using strong cryptography. This email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but Dresdner Kleinwort Benson makes no warranty as to accuracy or completeness. In particular Dresdner Kleinwort Benson does not accept responsibility for changes made to this email after it was sent. Any opinions expressed in this document are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Bank or its affiliates. They may be subject to change without notice. ##########################################

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New Mexico Zope UG
by Alex Rice 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Any folk in New Mexico please email me if there is exists, or you are interested in a Zope User's Group. Or would that be "Zope Zendo"? So far it's just Scott Lewis and I. Alex Rice | alrice(a)swcp.com | http://www.swcp.com/~alrice Current Location: N. Rio Grande Bioregion, Southwestern USA

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Re: [Zope] Still trying no success... and [Why base href?]
by Tony McDonald 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

> > I think I've solved both of these problems for my situation with the > following Rewrite rules... > > I'm running ZServer on port 9673 and via pcgi. I use the 9673 approach > internally while externally folks go through apache and use pcgi. > Steve, Running a 9673 and pcgi server simultaneously bit me *bad*. I ended up with a corrupted database (as I was running NFS at the same time). Check out the posting [Zope] Running ZopeHTTPServer and PCGI together <http://www.zope.org/pipermail/zope/1999-June/004973.html> for more details. 'course, YMMV but I'd be very careful if I were you. Tone.

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External method writing to a log
by Martin Dougiamas 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

I want to create an external method to append to a log file (for almost every access to the Zope site). Obviously opening and closing files this often is going to get a bit silly. Is there a way to keep a file open for the whole time that the Zope server is running? Or do I need to create some completely separate OS-level process that handles the file, and just gets called by the external method? Cheers, Martin -- ### Martin Dougiamas ### ### http://dougiamas.com ### ### martin(a)dougiamas.com ###

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searchable documentation?
by Alex Rice 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Does there currently exist a searchable interface for the ZDP and the zope.org/Documentation/ web files? Alex Rice | alrice(a)swcp.com | http://www.swcp.com/~alrice Current Location: N. Rio Grande Bioregion, Southwestern USA

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NEW COMMERCIAL FOR ZOPE! :-)
by Tom Deprez 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Hi all, Here is it, my new web page, designed to receive a certificate.... I must admit, I learned more when I met Zope then that whole year.... every tuesday evening and saturday morning.... So, have a look at it ! Please. I was thinking of adding a guestbook, but I think that would give me too much trouble (people telling bad things etc) + I don't like these commercial banners.... I would really appreciate if you let me know what you think of it.... this is my first 'big' site, with my first javascripts.... What can you find in the site? 1. An short explenation of a new project I'm working on. 2. A short introduction to Zope (summary of ZBook) 3. Some examples... yes....! That's about it.... Please, have a look! Thanks! http://www.master.cit.be/c8/default.html If you've problems, let me know then I try to solve them... PS. You really need Netscape 4 or above or IE 5.0 for this!!!!(IE.4 gives a problem with frames and layers :-( and that is just my biggest personal achievement, ie. the submenus...) Known problem (at least with Netscape 4.07) with XWindows : the background disappears and images become ugly! (seems Linux is working with another format of images)

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Version history
by Schmidt, Jens-Uwe 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Hi there, is there a reason, that there's a stable version 1.10.2 and an alpha release 2.0a1, but 1.11.0pr1 (which is running on my box) simply disappeared on the download pages? I can't find a bug-listing of this release, maybe my problems with user-authentication (running Zope with the ZServer or ZAPs Apache) are in there..... Bye Jens Jens-Uwe Schmidt * j.schmidt(a)first-fm.de Mail und Internet Administration FIRST-Management GmbH * Lister Straße 11 30163 Hannover * Tel 0511/9658-357 * Fax..-303

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RE: [Zope-dev] Suggestion: Full name attribute for user objects
by Alexander Staubo 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

>> It would be very cool if user objects (that is to say User.BasicUser) >> could have a "fullname"-type attribute. This would also fit >> well in with >> other authentication schemes such as Windows NT, where users >> have a full >> name in addition to a login name. [snip] > >Thanks for the entusiasm, but there's no need. The membeship system >will allow you to assign arbitrary properties to member objects. Of >course, you can hard code in Full Name if you don't want to wait. What with cases where the Portal Toolkit is overkill? The UserFolder architecture serves just fine for my purpose, it's just that one missing property. Note that I don't know how integrated the ZPT will be into Zope, so maybe "overkill" is irrelevant in this case if ZPT will be fully grafted into Zope. But if not, and if it does not replace UserFolder, and if ZPT brings along with lots of baggage, I'd rather want to extend UserFolder than switching. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "In the end, we all assume room temperature." --John Maynard Keynes

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RE: [Zope] Newbie:Navigational bar
by Alexander Staubo 13 Jun '99

13 Jun '99

Thanks. If you need me to write a short piece around the code that explains what it does, and how, let me know. I read your navbar howto, which is well-written and usable. However, personally I think that manually putting URLs in a TinyTable and iterating that goes against the grain, or the zen if you will, of Zope itself. Say somebody adds a page, removes a page, or changes a title -- you have to go over the TinyTable manually. On some of my pages I use another scheme which revolves around marking public documents with a "public" property and enumerating those. The code looks a bit like this:     <img src="/Images/activedoc.gif" width="8" height="8"><b></b><br>  <img src="/Images/spacer.gif" width="8" height="8"><a href=""></a><br>    This lists all documents and folders on the current level that have an IsPublic property that is non-null, and also displays a "you are here"-type of bullet next to the active document's title. All other entries are given as links. No need to maintain a TinyTable, as the code will discover which documents are published. The drawback, of course, is that it only enumerates documents in its immediate parents: If you'd like to place site-wide links in this list, you could just iterate through PARENTS[-1] as well. All three schemes serve slightly different purposes, but deserve equal mention, I think. -- Alexander Staubo http://www.mop.no/~alex/ "In the end, we all assume room temperature." --John Maynard Keynes >-----Original Message----- >From: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On >Behalf Of Jules >Allen >Sent: 11. juni 1999 15:14 >To: aem(a)byu.edu >Cc: Zope List >Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie:Navigational bar > > >Good Morning. In addition to the code you got from Alexander, there's >a draft of a tutorial at > > http://zdp.zope.org/test/jules/navbar_howto_html > >I think we need to do two versions of the navbar tutorial -- one based >on Alexander's code and one based on the TinyTable. Both clearly have >different uses but are equally important. > >Good luck! > >On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 07:05:33PM -0600, Adrian Esteban Madrid wrote: >|Anybody has any idea/tutorial/rumors on how to create a >navigational bar >|like this? >| >|Home : Community : InvestorsCorner : Introduction : Disclaimer >| >|Each item can be linked, so you can step back to Community skipping >|Introduction with one click. >| >|Any ideas would be appeciated. >| >|-aem >| >| >|_______________________________________________ >|Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >|http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >| >|(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >|zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(For developer-specific issues, use the companion list, >zope-dev(a)zope.org - http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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