April 2001 - Zope - Zope lists

Zope, ACS E-commerce & Authentic Service Delivery Systems
by Richard Volpato 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

Back from Easter, back to see what's been happening..... On re-reading the Zcommerce discussions regarding Zope, ACS and the nature(s) of e-commerce, it seemed an opportune time to flesh out some of the issues raised (particularly in Walter's analysis: http://lists.codeit.com/pipermail/zcommerce/2001-April/000418.html) I end with some recommendations. I am not a developer, but I am pushing for Zope deployments in various settings. I have tried to fill out the issues rasied with some examples - which has lengthened this comment. Overview ========= We are all agreed that Zope needs an e-commerce 'story'. The story has to be about something real and compelling and not simply hype or a hobbled 'add-on'. Zope has some special qualities. These is its 'meta-data facilities' and delegation. There is, I think, a deep link between the strong facilities for meta-data and delegation in Zope and the capacity to transform e-commerce from: (a) the servicing, via a shopping cart, of a (typically fickle) customer, to (b) enabling buyers to co-produce and augment, for themselves, the value in what they are buying. The example of Amazon.com illustrates this - many users enjoy browsing rather than just buying there and many buyers contribute reviews, lists, and auction items. In Amazon's 'engine' lies a collaborative filtering mechanism such that the very trail of purchases becomes part of the 'map' to inform others. The necessary SQL for building this is already in Arsdigita's ACS code. That is no surprise; after all, ACS is a community-building infra-structure rather than a content management system. Of course, the *whole point* is that these two (interactive web models) are converging. Now for some more detailed thoughts É.. Customer <===> Member ==================================== If e-commerce is seen as an 'add-on', I think a mistake is being made. Such an 'add-on' will look like some shopping cart with a 'back-end' that helps a solitary customer buy some 'thing'. Huge parts of the economy involve more than this. Many service areas - from financial planning, education, health, lifestyle, travel, welfare, etc - all involve service professionals working to transform a client. There is a tug-a-war going on in the economy as to whether 'clients' can be reduced to 'customers' or whether they get better service as 'members' of groups focussed on their problem. These services are labor intensive and thus, not very scalable. However they become easier to deliver and more profound in their effects if the 'clients' find a way to transform each other. Thus a classroom enlivened by discussion is easier to teach than one passively responding to the 'teacher'. The 'web' has pivotal role to play in these service settings. Unfortunately, the drive for 'web enabled service delivery' has missed the point of giving clients a voice and tried to commercialise the wrong aspects. It is only now with the kind of architecture offered by Zope that a path to authentic web support becomes feasible. The web appears to offer 'scalability'. While services may be labor intensive, what is labored over (ie The Content) appears not to be: vast numbers of web sites offer financial advice without the adviser, curriculum without the teacher, exercise regimes without the trainer, itineraries without the travel agent; health without the doctor etc. Yet this kind of web delivered Content is often "dead on arrival". Either interactivity is lost; content is not refreshed fast enough, there is not enough (any!) personalization, localisation or sequencing; the modes of delivery are too demanding or standardised, the 'Content' was just plain mediocre to start with etc. Sure initially, 'customers' feel they have choice, cheap deals and are freed from the condescension, price fixing and the repeat 'sessions' of service professionals. They are discovering that much of this was a costly chimera The challenge is to scale the service via a platform that gives voice to, and can collect money from, clients. If the web can enable clients to witness the effects of their collaboratively achieved self-transformations, then they are 'hooked' (for all the right reasons). This is where Zope has a compellingly powerful architecture - except for a 'blind spot' regarding 'e-commerce'. In my own experience, I have seen University curricula reduced to pedagogical pap through such web tools like WebCT: Courses as different as physiology and history all start to 'look and feel' the same. Zwiki's alone, make for a more compelling experience, let alone another design I have worked on: the Web Enabled Authoring of Research (WEAR) which exploits Zope's capacity to delegate authoring, editing and templating. In this way, using social data and field research, students can write chapters of real books and become 'authors' rather than memorising readers. In short, the WWW is currently full of 'scaled-up' content-for-service that have reduce clients to customers and lost service quality. Before highlighting the revolutionary potential Zope has in this context - of scaling up service enactment, rather than service content - it is worth contrasting what Arsdigita does in this regard. Arsdigita has a keen appreciation, that if people have a problem or puzzle, and they are given a 'voice' through which to share commonalities, then they begin to 'help themselves' (eg as the many thousands of photographers, mostly in small US towns can and do share their lives at Photo.net) Ironically, Zope is often described as a framework for "customers who have customers who have customersÉ." While the technology that achieves this, is superior to Arsdigita, the way it is talked about seems to me to be far less provocative to true to the architecture its describes. We need to emphasize the the value of, rather the capacity for, delegation, in a business context. Otherwise, the community creation capacity that goes with delegation (as implemented in Zope) is hidden. Indeed, I think, Zope's content management regime has the (unintended?) consequence of being a uniquely scalable "content-for-service delivery" regime. Service delivery in these contexts, means service consumption, which can mean transforming 'clients' into members. Regardless, they mostly want to pay. This is why there is a deep need for e-commerce to be intimately tied to content management More importantly, the meta-data tagging available in Zope enables 'contributions' to be assessed and potentially monetised as credits - thus enabling 'eager but poor' clients to pay through contributions of labor rather than cash - something Arsdigita has built into is customer relations module. Zope I am sure means many things to different users. I think there are good reasons for thinking it has a strategic role to play in being a platform for delivering the kind of content that gets used in various service transactions, not simply users 'browsing' for 'dynamic content'. The individualised, fickle, meandering, whimsical 'customer' can be left to the existing 'B2C' regimes (best exemplified by the deep experience in this area that pornography sites have). Incremental Featurism <===> Strategic Architectures ============================= Wish lists for software always abound: "wouldn't it be nice if we had this or that feature". Wish lists always get too long; developers get too busy, investors get too fixated on the 'winning formula'; and customers ponder on what is hype. One protection against this, that Zope has, is its development, focussed on architecture rather than features. With a sound architecture, features can be added easily. Without it, featurism creeps in and discussion lists get bogged in choosing between listed wishes. This architectural aspect is still missing from Zope's integration of, rather than just access to, RDBMS applications. E-commerce is one such RDBMS application (despite views to the contrary by some on this list). Were the integration to have architectural integrity, then developers could enjoy the kind of Rapid Application Development comparable to that provided for ODBMS applications which are so well catered for by ZODB. It is this part of the e-commerce story that Arsdigita ACS has such immediate value and relevance. If, as I argue, there is a strategic point to enabling 'members' to have voices (rather than just enable customers to confront things), then the 'community building' wisdom in ACS is worth investigating. The work-flow, customer support and e-commerce modules immediately reveal (in their extensive documentation) that they provide far more than 'shopping': they engender membership. Zope is already well suited to delegate the building of 'service bundles' to suit particular contexts (of members with particular needs). This will develop further as the web moves towards 'peer-to-peer' configurations. But even here, there is a need for a commercial infra-structure to service 'membership', otherwise developers will end up looking for 'micro-payment' mechanisms which, I think, are too onerous for users to routinely engage (even if 'micro-payments' looks like a 'cool' feature). Dot-Coms <===> Dot-Nets ====================== Dave Winer somewhere contrasts Dot-Nets with Dot-Coms. Dot-Nets are companies that have business models which do not require vast 'customer bases' (enticed with 'free stuff'). Dot-Nets harmonise and modulate the productive capacities that are already there - providing a medium for new synergies of production. In economic terms, it's the economies of Scope rather than the economies (and tyrannies) of Scale. Zope is a synergy-engendering platform. I think, there are many new markets for Zope in the 'old economy' offices and factories, rather than new economy 'dot-coms'. A nice example of this is 'call-centres'. They use phones, but they are still factories, (in effect). Their main source of 'energy' that powers these monsters of 'customer care' is the emotional toning of the telephonists (dealing with travel bookings, electricity bills, medial issues, appointments, etc). I have been trying to convince one financial institution (which has moved to 'call centres') to imagine that some kind of software (eg Zope) could 'dissolve', as it were, the whole phoney (sic) edifice of telephonically delivered customer care - replacing it with 'digital communities of care'. These in turn reduce the need for one-to-one consultations that are highly costly in service industries. In many contexts, clients prefer to set up their own information portal and meetings - if only they could get such an arrangement in place. Zope is precisely this kind of software. However for this to be operational, it desperately needs a transaction engine capable of doing e-commerce in the style noted above. Note that DC itself could never take responsibility for acquiring the core competency to deal with any one of the specifics mentioned above such as travel bookings, utility billing etc. Nor could it fathom the actual enterprise engines behind these service delivery systems. But DC does have a framework for the purely web side of any such project that is very suitable for Rapid Application Development and the evolution of web supported (real) services and transactions. In my case, I'm not a developer with a deep understanding of the technology issues. Nor am I one of these "dot.com" entrepreneurs who will disappear with the NASDAQ bubble. I sit on Boards and undertake social renovations in areas that are not very web-enabled (suffice for e-mail and browsing). One Board (of a superannuation fund) we are studying technology that I know is going to be critical to the future of this "old-economy" service industry that has "members" (contributors) with "information needs" about pressing life-planning problems. Many such sectors are still just "testing the water" with brochure style web sites. But those in the industry (for years) know a lot more about how business actually works than any "dot.com entrepreneur" and will be the ones paying for web development long after they are gone. At the moment it's difficult to get even small investments from Boards that don't yet understand what they are going to need. Worse, Dot-Com companies offer expensive but 'all-in-a-box' solutions that seem attractive until the inability to factor in localised business processes and understandings become obvious. Road Map and Stepping Stones ======================= First, make the e-commerce 'story' a real journey of development with the hallmark architecture that binds the other core components of Zope Second, adjust to the qualitative 'leaps' involved in thinking about an erector set for content management (Zope) with a web based community erector-set (Arsdigita). I think, by the way, Userland offers something of a bridge and supplement to both in various contexts. Third, develop a (sub?) group of z-commerce that can combine the business solutions issues (noted above) along side the technology issues so that we get a dot-net style development, as opposed to a dot-com. Fourth, I would recommend from a business standpoint that the e-commerce module of ACS be looked at seriously (and this includes the workflow and customer support modules in ACS). Fifth, pool any extant efforts in this regard into a common project (with DC's blessings). Sixth, by building this open source community and managing the content of the e-commerce story we will have enacted the structure that illustrates what we would then be selling. I'd certainly like to join in taking up proposals suggested in this list to start figuring out here, how we can get people who need business solutions together with people who understand technologies like Zope and OpenACS. We can then figure out ways and means of raising funds for what needs to be done together with specifying what the business requirements actually are. Richard Volpato 2 Park Street, FITZROY NORTH, VIC 3068

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RE: Globals.DTMLFile vs. DTML Method wrt security
by Randall F. Kern 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

oops, slipped on the keyboard, sorry about that partial post. here's the full version: DTMLFile objects in my python product can do things DTML Method's can't, and that is causing some trouble. In particular, dtml that is from a DTMLFile() attribute in a python product can <dtml-var> stuff (like a DTML Document) that doesn't have the correct permissions, and placing the same <dtml-var> tag into a TWW DTML Method results in a login dialog. Is this by design? Is there a way for me to turn this off? -Randy Details: For example, create a DTML Document (id secret) that only managers can 'View' or 'Access contents information' on. Then write a DTML Method that just does <dtml secret>. This correctly causes a login dialog, and will only show the contents of secret if you are authenticated with an account that has the manager role. Now write a python product somewhere, important bits look like this: class Foo(OFS.Folder): security = ClassSecurityInfo() security.declareObjectProtected('View') __class_init__ = Globals.default__class_init__ meta_type = "foo" def __init__(self, id): self.id = id security.declareProtected('View', 'test') test = Globals.DTMLFile('test', globals()) security.declareProtected('View', '__call__') def __call__(self, client=None, context={}, **extras): return apply(self.test, ((client, self), context), extras) then in test.dtml: <dtml-var secret> Now create an instance of Foo somewhere, and try calling either the test method or the object itself. In both cases, you'll see the contents of secret, without being logged in.

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Globals.DTMLFile vs. DTML Method wrt security
by Randall F. Kern 21 Apr '01

21 Apr '01

DTMLFile objects in my python product can do things DTML Method's can't, and that is causing some trouble. In particular, dtml that is from a DTMLFile() attribute in a python product can <dtml-var> stuff (like a DTML Document) that doesn't have the correct permissions, and placing the sam For example, create a DTML Document (id secret) that only managers can 'View' or 'Access contents information' on. Then write a DTML Method that just does <dtml secret>. This correctly causes a login dialog, and will only show the contents of secret if you are authenticated with an account that has the manager role. Now write a python product somewhere, important bits look like this: class Foo(OFS.Folder): security = ClassSecurityInfo() security.declareObjectProtected('View') __class_init__ = Globals.default__class_init__ meta_type = "foo" def __init__(self, id): self.id = id security.declareProtected('View', 'test') test = Globals.DTMLFile('test', globals()) security.declareProtected('View', '__call__') def __call__(self, client=None, context={}, **extras): return apply(self.test, ((client, self), context), extras) then in test.dtml: <dtml-var secret> Now create an instance of Foo somewhere, and try calling either the test method or the object itself. In both cases, you'll see the contents of secret, without being logged in.

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Re: [Zope] Orphan Object IDs
by Stefan H. Holek 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

My second guess is that your problem is not a stray *object* (you should see *any* object in the management interface, IMHO) but a left over *meta type*. This happened to me once and I wrote the following note to myself: <quote> Getting rid of dangling meta types (improperly deleted Products/Factories) > Shut down Zope, run python in the /Zope/lib/python directory, and > execute the following code: > > >>> import Zope > >>> r=[] > >>> for mt in Zope.app()._getProductRegistryMetaTypes(): > >>> if mt['name'] != 'MetaTypeYouWantRemoved': > >>> r.append(mt) > >>> Zope.app()._setProductRegistryMetaTypes(tuple(r)) > >>> get_transaction().commit() </quote> This might at least give you an idea where to poke around ;) Stefan On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Chris Shenefiel wrote: > Stefan, > > Thanks - yes, I did get it installed and working - later, it stopped working > and seemed corrupted. I subsequently tried to uninstall it but I cannot since > there seems to be an orphan ZRFP object in the Zope database. > > Chris > > "Stefan H. Holek" wrote: > > > Chris! > > > > Please make sure you follow the RFP installation instructions closely. > > > > <quote> > > In the Zope management interface, navigate to Control_Panel/Products. > > > > You will see a ZRFP product; delete it! Zope automatically "installs" an > > empty and quite useless ZRFP when it notices the lib/python/Products/ZRFP > > direcory when it starts up. We need to import a "zexp" file with the same > > id, and Zope won't let us-- you have to delete the empty one first. > > > > You can tell it's an "empty" ZRFP if it has nothing but a Help folder in > > it. Click on it to see what it contains. > > </quote> > > > > HTH, > > Stefan > > > > --On Donnerstag, 19. April 2001 14:27 -0700 Chris Shenefiel > > <chris.shenefiel(a)cisco.com> wrote: > > > > > I have an object (from the Radio Free Pete package) that appears to be > > > an orphan. I have deleted the product, cleaned the database, cleaned > > > the cache but a reference to RFP still exists. I know this because when > > > I try to import the RFP.exp, I get an error stating that that object ID > > > still exists and cannot be re-installed. > > > > > > Is there a way to get rid of this without reinstalling Zope? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > -- > > Things work better when plugged in. >

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export Documents
by uli01＠gmx.net 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Hi, I checked a Winword documentinto Zope. What I am trying to solve is how I can export this document from Zope to the client in the origional file format (doc) when I am working in the management screen.... thnx, Ulli -- ______________________________________________________ uli - uli01(a)gmx.net GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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Re: Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects
by Juan Carlos Coruña 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Here I have some answers for somebody interested: Casey Duncan wrote: >AFAIK, copy and paste in Zope use Cookies, so they won't work over >XML-RPC as you found. You could move something programatically as >follows >obj = context.tmp[id].aq_base >context._setObject(obj, id) >context.tmp.manage_delObjects(id) >This code could not be called directly from XML-RPC however... >Probably your best bet is to create a moveObject() external method that >does the above and call it from XML-RPC. First, I don't call manage_pasteObjects directly using xmlrpc, I call a python script that uses manage_pasteObjects and since it works when I execute this script manually and cookies (clicking the test tab) and cookies disabled in the browser I suppose it must work when I call the python script using xmlrpc. What is the diference? (With the cookies disabled the paste button doesn't appears in the Zope management interface, then its correct that the cut/paste doesn't works without cookies using the management interface.) Second, there is a little mistake in the second line in your example (see my example). Here is the external method I use, following your instructions (thanks): def moveObject(self, origin, destination, id): if origin: obj = self[origin][id].aq_base else: obj = self[id].aq_base if destination: self[destination]._setObject(id, obj) else: self._setObject(id, obj) if origin: self[origin].manage_delObjects(id) else: self.manage_delObjects(id) I call this method from inside a script that is called by xmlrpc. Nevertheless, thank you Casey for your help. ----- Phil Harris wrote: >I'm pretty sure that the cut/copy/paste functionality needs cookies to do >the work. > >xmlrpc doesn't as yet support cookie, so there is a problem there. > >Hope that helps. Yes, true, cut/copy/paste needs cookies, but only if you use the management interface to accomplish the paste. If you do the paste programatically the variable in front of the manage_cutObjects command acts like the cookie, storing the reference to the cutted object. And, since I use xmlrpc to invoke a script that includes the necessary code to cut'n'paste I don't need cookie support. To solve the problem I finally use the method suggested by Casey Duncan. ------- Chris McDonough wrote: >This works from the management interface? Yes, it works. If you execute the script clicking on the test tab it works. ;-) I found this in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/54267 suggested by Wolfgang Strobl. ------- After, all this I hope that this message will be helpful for other people.

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OSError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe
by Norman Khine 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Hello, Having had serious problems in running Zope, I decided to re-install it. All seemed to work fine until I installed the CMFOption from http://www.zope.org/Members/jeffsasmor/CMFOptions not suggesting that this is the cause, I would like some one to have a look at it. The server worked without crashing for over 20 hours prior to this. I am using Zope Version: Zope 2.3.1 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) Python Version: 2.0 (#2, Jan 8 2001, 16:54:34) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] System Platform: freebsd4 This is the following error I got 2001-04-20T21:22:57 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured python exception, closing chan nel <select-trigger (pipe) at 82e956c> (exceptions.MemoryError: [/usr/home/khine /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py|poll|83] [/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Z ope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py|handle_read_event|335] [/usr/home/khine/usr/local /Zope/ZServer/medusa/select_trigger.py|handle_read|77] [/usr/home/khine/usr/loca l/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py|recv|287] [/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZSer ver/medusa/asyncore.py|recv|475]) Unhandled exception in thread: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/PubCore/ZServerPublisher.py", lin e 97, in __init__ response._finish() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 281, in _f inish stdout.close() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 338, in cl ose Wakeup() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/select_trigger.py", line 7 4, in pull_trigger os.write (self.trigger, 'x') OSError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe Unhandled exception in thread: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/PubCore/ZServerPublisher.py", lin e 97, in __init__ response._finish() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 281, in _f inish stdout.close() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 338, in cl ose Wakeup() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/select_trigger.py", line 7 4, in pull_trigger os.write (self.trigger, 'x') OSError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe Unhandled exception in thread: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/PubCore/ZServerPublisher.py", lin e 97, in __init__ response._finish() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 281, in _f inish stdout.close() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/HTTPResponse.py", line 338, in cl ose Wakeup() File "/usr/home/khine/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/select_trigger.py", line 7 4, in pull_trigger os.write (self.trigger, 'x') OSError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe Any suggestions Norman /*/\*\/\*\ /*/ \*\ /*/ \*\ |*| Norman Khine /*/ /*/ /*/ \*\_ |*| |*||*| mailto:khine@o-a-l.net /*/ /*/ /*/\*\/*/ \*\|*| |*||*| Purley, UK /*/ /*/ /*/\*\_/*/ \*\_/*/ |*|____ ^^^^^^^^^^^^/*/^^^^^^^^^^^\*\^^^^^^^^^^^ /*/ \*\

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)
by Jim Penny 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:00:37PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: > * The Doctor What (docwhat(a)gerf.org) [010419 11:57]: > > Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized > > database? Or is ZSQL just useless? > > > > Near as I can tell, between: > > * Broken type marshalling > > * Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if > > * Inability to handle table.field names for variables > > * And enough flexibility to work around the above problems > > > I would like to apologize for being particularly pissy. Things are > quite as bad as I say up there... > > My third point is only half true. I can have SQLTEST specify a > column name (aka a field): > <dtml-sqltest somevarname column="SQLTABLE.sqlfield" type...> > > I know that the '.' has a special meaning, but there should be ways > around this if the use wants. > > I still would love some examples. Do people end up with 4 ZSQL > objects per thing they manipulate in their database?: > UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE? Or do they mix them somehow? I cannot emphasize enough. Do not try to make all-singing all-dancing ZSQL methods. This seems to be something that lots of people want to do for some reason. Observation 1: SQL syntax is incredibly irregular. It is almost impossible to write, in any language, a sinlge statement that can handle these four options. Observation 2: You almost always want fewer arguments to a delete than to an insert. You also typically have more worries about deletes than inserts w.r.t. social issues. That is, typically there are more people who you allow to select than you allow to insert than you allow to update than you allow to delete. For both control reasons and format reasons you do not want a single SQL statement to handle all possible operations. Observation 3: Simple SQL statements are much easier to debug than complicated ones. Observation 4: Simple SQL statements are much easier to develop than complicated ones. Observation 5: As far as I can tell, there is very little, if any, space or performance penalty for using many small ZSQL methods rather than one complicated one. So, when should you use the fancier options? If you need to have rollback work, you may need to combine several statements into a single method. If you have a report that changes behavior depending on its input, maybe you want to use a complicated ZSQL method to grab the data. E.g. I have a form that accepts a min and a max part number and a min and max description (and several other min/max pairs). I want to sort depending on the first pair filled in. This is conveniently done with a complicated ZSQL method. I have not yet decided if it is wise to do so. Rule of thumb: methods should seldom span more than 2 or 3 screenfuls. The major exception would be a method with an enormous number of parameters. Zope is best used with the KISS principle in mind. It is better to factor a problem into a largish number of very simple components than it is to use a small number of very complicated components. This is especially true when developing through the web, where you have smallish text windows and more primitive tools. Jim Penny > > Ciao! > > > -- > Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? > -- Groucho Marx > > The Doctor What: Need I say more? http://docwhat.gerf.org/ > docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC

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Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #1343 - 46 msgs
by Axel Blass 20 Apr '01

20 Apr '01

Am/Um 08:27 20.04.01 -0400 schrieben Sie: >Send Zope mailing list submissions to > zope(a)zope.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > zope-request(a)zope.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > zope-admin(a)zope.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Zope digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) (The Doctor What) > 2. Re: Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects (Phil Harris) > 3. RE: __basicnew__ errors (Brian Lloyd) > 4. how to change a title from python script? (alex) > 5. Re: hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) (Andy McKay) > 6. Re: hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) (Phil Harris) > 7. Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) (The Doctor What) > 8. Re: Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects (Casey Duncan) > 9. Re: Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) (Phil Harris) > 10. Re: Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) (Charlie Blanchard) > 11. Re: how to change a title from python script? (Casey Duncan) > 12. Problems calling directory (Adrian Madrid) > 13. Re: Re: page templates!? (Arian de Wit) > 14. Re: GoLive and WebDAV? (Sim Harbert) > 15. ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? (The Doctor What) > 16. Re: Correction to > http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZPT/IntroductionForDTMLers (ethan mindlace fremen) > 17. Re: problem testing for a permission (ethan mindlace fremen) > 18. Re: Re: Re: page templates!? (ethan mindlace fremen) > 19. Re: Re: Re: page templates!? (Arian de Wit) > 20. Re: html version of zope site (Danny William Adair) > 21. Re: Re: Re: page templates!? (Arian de Wit) > 22. Summarization and Zope (Ausum) > 23. Re: ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? (The Doctor What) > 24. Re: Problems calling directory (Ben Peter) > 25. Re: UPDATE: Problems calling directory (Ben Peter) > 26. Re: CoreSessionTracking (Uwe C. Schroeder) > 27. Re: UPDATE: Problems calling directory (Adrian Madrid) > 28. Re: Problems calling directory (Tino Wildenhain) > 29. Copy 'n Paste (Menno Brandsen) > 30. Re: problem testing for a permission (Jerome Alet) > 31. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=5BZope=5D=20Native=20Database=20for=20Zope?= (Uwe Fechner) > 32. Zope on Python 2.1 (Oleg Broytmann) > 33. Re: Re: Re: page templates!? (Phil Harris) > 34. Re: GoLive and WebDAV? (Martijn Pieters) > 35. RE: Zope on Python 2.1 (Peter Bengtsson) > 36. RE: ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? (Peter Bengtsson) > 37. RE: Zope on Python 2.1 (Oleg Broytmann) > 38. Re[2]: [Zope] GoLive and WebDAV? (Geir Bækholt) > 39. RE: Zope on Python 2.1 (Tino Wildenhain) > 40. Re: Zope on Python 2.1 (Martijn Pieters) > 41. Re: __basicnew__ errors (seb bacon) > 42. RFC - newbie with a zope product (bak (kedai)) > 43. Re: [newbie] Property with <dtml-var> in it's value (Stefan Mallepell) > 44. Re: delete HTML Tags out of a form input (Stefan Mallepell) > 45. Re: Zope on Python 2.1 (Andreas Jung) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:05:16 -0500 >From: The Doctor What <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) > > >--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >* Hamish Lawson (hamish_lawson(a)yahoo.co.uk) [010419 14:41]: >> Just a suggestion: You may want to consider whether it would be better >> to test whether the user has the appropriate permission using >> has_permission(), rather than for whether they have a particular role. > >Thanks for the suggestion, but it's mainly a beautification. >Example: I don't want the traceback on errors visible unless the >user is logged in. :-) I don't care what their permissions are, >just the fact that they are marked as development savvy. > >Ciao! > >--=20 >When the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything as if= > it were a nail. > -- Abraham Maslow > >The Doctor What: Need I say more? http://docwhat.gerf.org/ >docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC > >--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE632EckJDks3INMZURAr/TAJ9hfGRQ9e4xrinRstw0LsT1/S91BQCgiJ6+ >0bUtweGZU9kAZZA79JqrbK0= >=Kafw >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> >To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlos_Coru=F1a?= <jcoruna(a)euskalnet.net>, > <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:15:06 +0100 > >Carlos, > >I'm pretty sure that the cut/copy/paste functionality needs cookies to do >the work. > >xmlrpc doesn't as yet support cookie, so there is a problem there. > >Hope that helps. > >Phil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Juan Carlos Coru=F1a" <jcoruna(a)euskalnet.net> >To: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:35 PM >Subject: [Zope] Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects > > >> I have another xmlrpc replated problem: >> >> If I test the following script (python) with the Zope management >> interface it works ok, but if I call the script from outside Zope using >> xmlrpc I become an Fault error: >> >> xmlrpclib.Fault: <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: Add Documents= >, >> Images, and Files'> >> >> This is the script: >> >> # Create a unique document id >> id =3D 'pepe' >> >> context.tmp.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].addDTMLDocument(id, title=3D"= >", >> file=3D'esto es una prueba') >> doctmp =3D getattr(context.tmp, id) >> doctmp.manage_addProperty('sender', 'loginName', 'string') >> doctmp.manage_addProperty('sessionId', 'session', 'string') >> >> >> # move the message to the queue >> obj =3D context.tmp.manage_cutObjects(ids=3D[id]) >> context.manage_pasteObjects(obj) >> >> return id >> >> If I comment the line "context.manage_pasteObjects(obj)" Zope doesn't >> produce the error response. >> >> Is there a limitations using manage_pasteObjects with xmlrpc? >> Any solutions? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: "Brian Lloyd" <brian(a)digicool.com> >To: "seb bacon" <seb(a)jamkit.com>, > <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: RE: [Zope] __basicnew__ errors >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:07:22 -0400 > >> Whenever I try to import an object from one Zope (2.3.0) to another >> (2.3.1) I get a >> >> Error Type: AttributeError >> Error Value: __basicnew__ >> >> <snip> >> >> Why might this be? Can anyone shed any light onto what __basicnew__ >> does? > >__basicnew__ is a rather low-level initialization method in >ExtensionClass... I've never seen this before though :( > >> And has anyone any pointers to understanding these pickled >> traceback things? Whenever they occur, I find it's usually due to >> inconsistencies between the pickled product-related info and the >> products loaded from the filesystem, but I don't know how to go about >> debugging it. > >There is definitely some problem unpickling one or more of the >objects stored in the db (the junk in the traceback is the >actual pickle string), but I don't have a quick answer for >you on the cause here. Is it possible that you forgot to >copy over a (filesystem) product that defines a base class >or something used by these instances? > > >Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com >Software Engineer 540.371.6909 >Digital Creations www.digicool.com > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "alex" <alex(a)quad.com.ar> >To: <zope(a)zope.org> >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:13:33 -0300 >Subject: [Zope] how to change a title from python script? > >Hey guys, > >does anyone of you know how can an object title be changed without using the >ugly manage_edit() method ? > >I was expecting something more intuitive as in > >dtml_method.title = 'new title >instead of: >dtml_method.mange_edit(data=dtml_object, title='new title') > >reasons why I dont like manage_edit() ? > >- It's a complete different method on each object. so you have to call it >with different arguments depending the object you want to edit. >- It's not intuitive at all! > >thanks for your help ! > >Alex > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com> >To: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org>, <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:24:38 -0700 > >Perhaps its just my mail client but your mail shows up as attachements. >Annoying. >-- > Andy McKay. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:05 PM >Subject: Re: [Zope] hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> >To: "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com>, "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org>, > <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:24:41 +0100 > >Oh good it's not just me! > >V annoying! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com> >To: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org>; <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:24 PM >Subject: Re: [Zope] hasRole (Bug or My brain is dead?) > > >> Perhaps its just my mail client but your mail shows up as attachements. >> Annoying. > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:27:57 -0500 >From: The Doctor What <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: Andy McKay <andym(a)ActiveState.com> >Cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: [Zope] Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) > > >--LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >* Andy McKay (andym(a)ActiveState.com) [010419 17:20]: >> Perhaps its just my mail client but your mail shows up as attachements. >> Annoying. > >Get the PGP plugin for Outlook. I'm sending GnuPG signed emails. >The two parts are the body of the message and the GPG signature. > >Eudora also behavies badly with signed mail without the PGP plugin. > >Ciao! > >--=20 >"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" > --Dr. Emilio Lizardo (Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai) > >The Doctor What: A Holtje Production http://docwhat.gerf.org/ >docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC > >--LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE632ZtkJDks3INMZURAsGAAJ0dhhw3eZqRvCOfKeruv49gwX73JgCgrrkU >mQ/sieEtkHTs4ubISbzacsY= >=Qmca >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t-- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:30:59 -0600 >From: Casey Duncan <cduncan(a)kaivo.com> >Organization: Kaivo, Inc. (www.kaivo.com) >To: Juan Carlos =?iso-8859-1?Q?Coru=F1a?= <jcoruna(a)euskalnet.net> >CC: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Problem with xmlrpc and manage_pasteObjects > >Juan Carlos Coru=F1a wrote: >>=20 >> I have another xmlrpc replated problem: >>=20 >> If I test the following script (python) with the Zope management >> interface it works ok, but if I call the script from outside Zope using >> xmlrpc I become an Fault error: >>=20 >> xmlrpclib.Fault: <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: Add Documents= >, >> Images, and Files'> >>=20 >> This is the script: >>=20 >> # Create a unique document id >> id =3D 'pepe' >>=20 >> context.tmp.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].addDTMLDocument(id, title=3D"= >", >> file=3D'esto es una prueba') >> doctmp =3D getattr(context.tmp, id) >> doctmp.manage_addProperty('sender', 'loginName', 'string') >> doctmp.manage_addProperty('sessionId', 'session', 'string') >>=20 >> # move the message to the queue >> obj =3D context.tmp.manage_cutObjects(ids=3D[id]) >> context.manage_pasteObjects(obj) >>=20 >> return id >>=20 >> If I comment the line "context.manage_pasteObjects(obj)" Zope doesn't >> produce the error response. >>=20 >> Is there a limitations using manage_pasteObjects with xmlrpc? >> Any solutions? > >AFAIK, copy and paste in Zope use Cookies, so they won't work over >XML-RPC as you found. You could move something programatically as >follows > >obj =3D context.tmp[id].aq_base >context._setObject(obj, id) >context.tmp.manage_delObjects(id) > >This code could not be called directly from XML-RPC however... > >Probably your best bet is to create a moveObject() external method that >does the above and call it from XML-RPC.=20 > >hth, >--=20 >| Casey Duncan >| Kaivo, Inc. >| cduncan(a)kaivo.com >`------------------> > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> >To: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org>, "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:33:28 +0100 > >OK I won't get the GPG plugin, so I won't read your mail. > >Thanks for being so understanding! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: "Andy McKay" <andym(a)ActiveState.com> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:27 PM >Subject: [Zope] Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:37:22 -0700 >From: Charlie Blanchard <charlie(a)blanchardsite.com> >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Mail as attachments (MSOutlook Express...) > >On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:27:57PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote: >> * Andy McKay (andym(a)ActiveState.com) [010419 17:20]: >> > Perhaps its just my mail client but your mail shows up as attachements. >> > Annoying. >> >> Get the PGP plugin for Outlook. I'm sending GnuPG signed emails. >> The two parts are the body of the message and the GPG signature. >> >> Eudora also behavies badly with signed mail without the PGP plugin. >> > >for some reason the keyserver is refusing connections and causing >timeout delays... > > >-- >charlie blanchard >http://baldguru.com/ >Founder: LosAngeles area Zope Users Group http://lazug.org > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:51:32 -0600 >From: Casey Duncan <cduncan(a)kaivo.com> >Organization: Kaivo, Inc. (www.kaivo.com) >To: alex <alex(a)quad.com.ar> >CC: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] how to change a title from python script? > >alex wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> does anyone of you know how can an object title be changed without using the >> ugly manage_edit() method ? >> >> I was expecting something more intuitive as in >> >> dtml_method.title = 'new title >> instead of: >> dtml_method.mange_edit(data=dtml_object, title='new title') >> >> reasons why I dont like manage_edit() ? >> >> - It's a complete different method on each object. so you have to call it >> with different arguments depending the object you want to edit. >> - It's not intuitive at all! >> >> thanks for your help ! >> >> Alex > >Although it is still an ugly manage_ method, manage_changeProperties has >basically the same syntax for all objects (excepting ZClass properties >on custom property sheets). try: > >obj.manage_changeProperties(title='new title') > >hth, >-- >| Casey Duncan >| Kaivo, Inc. >| cduncan(a)kaivo.com >`------------------> > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:39:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: Adrian Madrid <aemadrid(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: aem(a)byu.edu >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: [Zope] Problems calling directory > >I have a zclass which defines articles with a >'location' field. (ie. location = >'Portal.Publications.Review'). My problem is that the >articles are located in a certain area but need to >show in the 'location' specified. I don't understand >why this code works: > ><dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review"> > <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document > in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> ></dtml-with> > >While this code does not work: > ><dtml-with "_['location']"> > <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document > in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> ></dtml-with> > >Any ideas? > > > >===== >--------------------------- >Adrian Esteban Madrid >Benson Institute, Webmaster >Brigham Young University >--------------------------- >adrian_esteban(a)madrid.com >=========================== > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >From: "Arian de Wit" <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> >Organization: NIWA >To: zope(a)zope.org >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:56:16 +1200 >Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? > >Hi all, > >I had this same problem (ZPT wasn't processing things) using the >example and had made a (presumably) silly mistake -- I had >created the two objects in the example as DTML Document or >DTML Method objects. Once I surmised that there was a new >object available in the Add... list (Page Template) and used that for >both objects, it worked (sort of). > >Problem I have now is that it gives a KeyError in response to >"here/Title": > >exceptions.KeyError on Title in "<PathExpr standard:here/Title>" > >(BTW, the < and > should be html-quoted -- the browser displays >just: > >exceptions.KeyError on Title in "" > >which is less useful and required me to look at the source -- not a >great hardship, but still...) > >Both objects have a Title defined, so what might be causing this? >And does "here" mean the master macro template >(standard_lf.html in the example), or the "client" template >(welcome.html)? Since they both have titles I figured trying it would >let me know, but it's not working, so I have to ask. :-) > >Excuse me if I'm being thick -- entirely possible, I admit. > > >Many thanks, > >Arian > >> From: "Evan Simpson" <evan(a)digicool.com> >> To: "daniel dias" <diask8(a)yahoo.com.br>, "ZopeList" <zope(a)zope.org> >> Subject: Re: [Zope] page templates!? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:16:30 >> -0400 >> >> From: "daniel dias" <diask8(a)yahoo.com.br> >> > <div metal:define-slot="main"> >> > If you supply a tag with a 'fill-macro="main"' attribute >> > when using this macro, that tag will replace this text. >> > </div> >> >> > <div metal:fill-slot="main"> >> > <p>Welcome to the machine</p> >> > </div> >> >> > when I call template above it only shows the text "Welcome to the >> machine". >> >> That is what should happen. >> >> > shouldn't appear " If you supply tag with ' >> > fill-macro="main " ' attribute when using this macro, >> > that tag will replace this text. " too? >> >> No, that's the point of slots. If you supply a fill-slot with a >> matching slot name, the fill-slot tag replaces the define-slot tag. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Evan @ digicool >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arian de Wit, MSc(Hons), i-Net+, MCSE >Information Systems Integration Manager >NIWA (National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research) >Gate 10 Silverdale Road, Box 11-115, Hamilton, New Zealand >Phone (+64) 7-856 1769 >Fax (+64) 7-856 0151 >Web http://www.niwa.cri.nz > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 14 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:07:16 -0400 >From: Sim Harbert <sim.harbert(a)zapmedia.com> >Organization: ZapMedia >To: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> >CC: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] GoLive and WebDAV? > >I have been checking into using ZPT to allow our designers to edit content, and so >far things are going pretty well. But, I haven't had a chance to allow our >designers edit things using the WebDAV interface with HomeSite (I don't have a >copy). I have checked it a bit myself, and edit things using FTP (Xemacs EFS) and >have set up certain folders to create PageTemplate objects by default, instead of >DTML. I can give info on how to change PUT_factory() to get that to work. > >The key to using ZPT with GoLive is whether GoLive removes the "extra" attributes >that ZPT puts in. If it doesn't then things should work. > >I'll try to keep you posted on how things go for us. > >-Sim > >Chris Withers wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm making my initial wanderings into using Adbove GoLive 5.0 to edit content in >> Zope and it's thrown up a few questions: >> >> 1. How do I persuade GoLive that it really can edit existing DTML Methods, etc >> that don't have names ending in .html? It seems that Zope very rarely sets an >> explicit content type on the WedDAV source port and so GoLive will only let you >> download the file... >> >> 2. How do I get GoLive to tell Zope to create the right kind of object? For >> example, I want to create file object with some lumps of text, python scripts >> with others, DTML methods with some and DTML documents with yet more? Has anyone >> tried ZPT over WebDAV yet? >> >> 3. [OT] How do I set up a Zope server as a 'Site' so that site menu has >> something not greyed out on it?! >> >> cheers, >> >> Chris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 15 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:56:20 -0500 >From: The Doctor What <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: Jim Penny <jpenny(a)universal-fasteners.com> >Cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: [Zope] ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? > >Howdy again.... > >I use a dtml-call to call a zsql object that does an insert. I >don't specify ID because ID is auto-sequenced by the DB. > >How can I find out what the ID of that just inserted object is so I >can do more operations on it? > >Related question: Why doesn't this work? ><dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.redirect('index_html?message=Link+added&url_id='+url_id)"> > >Zope complains about a builtin... > >Ciao! > >-- >"Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." > -- Mark Twain > >The Doctor What: A really hip dude http://docwhat.gerf.org/ >docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 16 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:52:40 -0400 >From: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com> >To: Steve Drees <drees(a)the-bridge.net>, "Zope@Zope. Org" <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] Correction to > http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ZPT/IntroductionForDTMLers > >--On Thursday, April 19, 2001 16:01:56 -0500 Steve Drees ><drees(a)the-bridge.net> wrote: >> First line of Template Operations section >> >> Just as <dtml-var foo> is the most fundamental statement of DTML, >> replace="expr" and insert="expr" are the basic workhorses of TAL. >> >> Should read >> Just as <dtml-var foo> is the most fundamental statement of DTML, >> replace="expr" and content="expr" are the basic workhorses of TAL. > >Fixed! If you are logged in, note that you could comment on this wiki, and >I'm certain someone would have fixed it. > >Thanks, >ethan >-- >-mindlace- >zopatista community liason > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 17 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:55 -0400 >From: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com> >To: Jerome Alet <alet(a)unice.fr>, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] problem testing for a permission > >--On Thursday, April 19, 2001 23:01:42 +0200 Jerome Alet <alet(a)unice.fr> >wrote: > >> <dtml-if "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View', mymethod)"> >> ... >> Some tests and text >> ... >> <A HREF="<dtml-var URL>/mymethod">Members only</A> >> ... >> Some tests and text >> ... >> </dtml-if> >> >> but if I access the pages as an anonymous user then I've got >> an Unauthorized exception instead of not having the "Members only" link. >> >> What do I have done wrong ? > >you don't want to evaluate truth: you want to see if there's an exception. > >I think you want: > ><dtml-try "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View', mymethod)"> > <A HREF="<dtml-var URL>/mymethod">Members only</A> ><dtml-except> > You are Anonymoose! ></dtml-try> > >Hope that helps, >-- >-mindlace- >zopatista community liason > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 18 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:59:59 -0400 >From: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com> >To: Arian de Wit <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz>, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? > >--On Friday, April 20, 2001 12:56:16 +1200 Arian de Wit ><adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> wrote: > >> exceptions.KeyError on Title in "" >> >> which is less useful and required me to look at the source -- not a >> great hardship, but still...) >> >> Both objects have a Title defined, so what might be causing this? > >hmm ... most objects have a title , few have a Title . Perhaps it is the >case that's giving you a problem? > >~ethan >-- >-mindlace- >zopatista community liason > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 19 >From: "Arian de Wit" <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> >Organization: NIWA >To: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com>, zope(a)zope.org >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:26:27 +1200 >Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? > >Hi again, > >Sorry, should have made that clear. Same problem with "title" as >with "Title" > > >Arian > >> --On Friday, April 20, 2001 12:56:16 +1200 Arian de Wit >> <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> wrote: >> >> > exceptions.KeyError on Title in "" >> > >> > which is less useful and required me to look at the source -- not a >> > great hardship, but still...) >> > >> > Both objects have a Title defined, so what might be causing this? >> >> hmm ... most objects have a title , few have a Title . Perhaps it is the >> case that's giving you a problem? >> >> ~ethan >> -- >> -mindlace- >> zopatista community liason > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arian de Wit, MSc(Hons), i-Net+, MCSE >Information Systems Integration Manager >NIWA (National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research) >Gate 10 Silverdale Road, Box 11-115, Hamilton, New Zealand >Phone (+64) 7-856 1769 >Fax (+64) 7-856 0151 >Web http://www.niwa.cri.nz > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 20 >From: "Danny William Adair" <Danny(a)Adair.net> >To: "Mike Blake" <mike.blake(a)cellnetwork.com>, > <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] html version of zope site >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:33:02 +1200 > >wget is definitely the easiest approach. > >For a pure zope approach, you might want to take a look at Ross's ZMirror >product: >http://www.zope.org/Members/rossl/ZMirror (last updated Sept 12,1999!) > >It's probably not a out-of-the-box solution, but shows how to basically do >things like this from Zope. I had a couple of problems using it as is, but >it might be a framework to a solution where you just say: "Ok, this folder >looks like it's ready to go out. Shovel!" > >Danny > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 21 >From: "Arian de Wit" <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> >Organization: NIWA >To: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com>, zope(a)zope.org >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:45:09 +1200 >Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? > >Got it! needed to use template/title in the macro template, and >here/title in the other one :-) > > >Arian > >> --On Friday, April 20, 2001 12:56:16 +1200 Arian de Wit >> <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> wrote: >> >> > exceptions.KeyError on Title in "" >> > >> > which is less useful and required me to look at the source -- not a >> > great hardship, but still...) >> > >> > Both objects have a Title defined, so what might be causing this? >> >> hmm ... most objects have a title , few have a Title . Perhaps it is the >> case that's giving you a problem? >> >> ~ethan >> -- >> -mindlace- >> zopatista community liason > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arian de Wit, MSc(Hons), i-Net+, MCSE >Information Systems Integration Manager >NIWA (National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research) >Gate 10 Silverdale Road, Box 11-115, Hamilton, New Zealand >Phone (+64) 7-856 1769 >Fax (+64) 7-856 0151 >Web http://www.niwa.cri.nz > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 22 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:45:12 -0500 >From: Ausum <augusto(a)artlover.com> >To: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: [Zope] Summarization and Zope > >After searching the Zope's site and the web, this is a question I've come up >with: >Is anybody working on a Summarization product for Zope? > >Some weeks ago, after reading the Directions Road Map, I realized that the best >way to include these kind of features in Zope was to write communication >components to existing software, rather than dealing with new, complicated >code, from scratch. But I'm assuming there aren't current projects on >summarization written in Python, so if this is correct, this may be the right >moment to start a new proposal on this subject, at least at a very basic level. > >Regards, > > >Ausum > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 23 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:47:30 -0500 >From: The Doctor What <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >To: zope(a)zope.org >Cc: Jim Penny <jpenny(a)universal-fasteners.com> >Subject: Re: [Zope] ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? > >* The Doctor What (docwhat(a)gerf.org) [010419 21:02]: >> Howdy again.... >> >> I use a dtml-call to call a zsql object that does an insert. I >> don't specify ID because ID is auto-sequenced by the DB. >> >> How can I find out what the ID of that just inserted object is so I >> can do more operations on it? >> >> Related question: Why doesn't this work? >> <dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.redirect('index_html?message=Link+added&url_id='+url_id)"> >> >> Zope complains about a builtin... > >If figured it out in the end. It was actually a Postgres question: >INSERT INTO URL > (val_ProtocolID, Url, Name, Summary, Description, Created) >VALUES > ( > <dtml-sqlvar protocol_id type=int>, > <dtml-sqlvar url_part type=nb>, > <dtml-sqlvar url_name type=nb>, > <dtml-sqlvar url_summary type=nb>, > <dtml-sqlvar url_description type=nb>, > now() > ) ><dtml-var sql_delimiter> >SELECT id as url_id >FROM URL >WHERE id = currval('url_id_seq') > >Ciao! > >-- >Any programming language is at its best before it is implemented and used. > >The Doctor What: Un-Humble http://docwhat.gerf.org/ >docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 24 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:39:29 +0200 >From: Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de (Ben Peter) >To: aem(a)byu.edu >Cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Problems calling directory > >Adrian, > >Adrian Madrid <aemadrid(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> <dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review"> >> <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document >> in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> >> </dtml-with> > >> <dtml-with "_['location']"> >> <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document >> in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> >> </dtml-with> > >All, please correct me if I'm writing bullshit ;-) > ><dtml-with "_['location']"> > gives you the string "Portal.Publications.Review", while > ><dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review"> > gives you the actual resolved object. > >So, what might do the trick could be > ><dtml-with "_.getitem('location')"> > >It might be helpful to remember that using double quotes >really means expr="". That is why your first example gives you the object that resolves to the name, while the second will resolve the expresion and give you the string contained in 'location'. > >Cheers, >Ben > >-- >Ben Peter - Feldstrasse 8 - 35091 Coelbe > Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de > ph: (+49) 6421 983520 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 25 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:18:17 +0200 >From: Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de (Ben Peter) >To: Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de (Ben Peter) >Cc: aem(a)byu.edu, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] UPDATE: Problems calling directory > >Adrian, > >I did write bullshit. > >Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de (Ben Peter) wrote: >> <dtml-with "_['location']"> >> gives you the string "Portal.Publications.Review", while >> >> <dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review"> >> gives you the actual resolved object. >> > >This is still true, but: >> <dtml-with "_.getitem('location')"> > >wont't give you more than the string "Portal.Publications.Review" either. So, what you want is: > ><dtml-with "_.getitem(_.getitem('location'))"> > >The inner _.getitem('location') will yield the string "Portal.Publications.Review". The outer _.getitem will then give you the actual object. > >Sorry for the confusion. > >Cheers, >Ben > >-- >Ben Peter - Feldstrasse 8 - 35091 Coelbe > Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de > ph: (+49) 6421 983520 > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 26 >From: "Uwe C. Schroeder" <Uwe.Schroeder(a)contrada.de> >Reply-To: Uwe.Schroeder(a)contrada.de >Organization: ConTrada Consultants Europe >To: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:44:26 +0200 >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: [Zope] Re: CoreSessionTracking > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Monday 16 April 2001 20:47, Chris McDonough wrote: >Hi Chris, > >the commit doesn't work as expected. My bet it that SessionTracking won't= >=20 >save any sessiondata in a auth method. I traced through loginmanager - bu= >t=20 >there are no exceptions in the code (none relevant). The general architec= >ture=20 >leads me to the asumption that the exception must be generated in the Zop= >e=20 >core. I did something else: I use the SessionID to store values in a SQL=20 >database. That works. So it really has something to do with the storage. >For now I use the SQL solution - since the project needs a database anywa= >ys=20 >thats no big impact. But it would have been nice to use the=20 >CoreSessionTracking - methods, since they're more flexible. Lucky me that= > the=20 >site has no big traffic - SQL slows things down. > >Thanks for you help. > >> Hi Uwe, >> >> If possible, continue to cc the Zope list on this... thanks... >> >> You can explicitly cause a transaction to be committed, but not in DTML= > or >> in a Python Script. You'll need to use an external method... >> >> Here's an example of an function which does this: >> >> def commit_trans(): >> get_transaction().commit() >> >> Make an external method named commit_trans, reference this function fro= >m >> within the external method UI, and then from dtml, you can do this: >> >> <dtml-call commit_trans> >> >> .... right before the raise. This should save the session data, then i= >t >> won't matter if you raise afterwards in the DTML. >> >> HTH, >> >> - C >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Uwe C. Schroeder" <Uwe.Schroeder(a)contrada.de> >> To: "Chris McDonough" <chrism(a)digicool.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 2:32 PM >> Subject: Re: CoreSessionTracking >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Monday 16 April 2001 20:22, you wrote: >> > Hi Uwe, >> > >> > Thanks for the concise explanation of the problem... I'm cc'ing the Z= >ope >> > list on this... it's best to keep this stuff on the Zope list because= > the >> > message archive helps other folks out (including me! ;-) >> > >> > I think what's happening here is that the dtml-raise in the middle of= > the >> > first snippet of DTML below aborts the ZODB transaction, and so the >> >> session >> >> > data is never saved... >> > >> > Is there a way to prompt for authorization without doing a DTML raise= >? >> > I've never used LoginManager... >> >> Hi, >> >> wow - that's a quick answer. >> No I don't think that there's another way to do handle loginmanager. >> Loginmanager gets called on an authorization exception. The LoginForm i= >sn't >> called directly, but gets called on any object a user tries to view wit= >hout >> proper authentication. >> I don't know much about ZODB transactions, but probably you know if the= >re's >> a >> way to finish the old transaction and start a new one ? >> >> Thanks - I'll try to remove the raise. >> >> Regards >> >> Uwe C. Schr=F6der >> >> - -- >> Uwe C. Schr=F6der ConTrada Consult= >ants >> Lindenstrasse 15 Tel/Fax: +49 8294 >> 80070 D-86477 Adelsried Mobil: +49= > 172 >> 8532352 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org >> >> iD8DBQE62zrRTJbO78VG0aIRAhVvAKCq1jMYJgKai9x4qBLCKS1y8rAigACffDfG >> IqFwZQA8KO4a6d5++Qpik/o=3D >> =3DIV1E >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >- --=20 > Uwe C. Schr=F6der > >- -- >Uwe C. Schr=F6der ConTrada Consultan= >ts >Lindenstrasse 15 Tel/Fax: +49 8294 80= >070 >D-86477 Adelsried Mobil: +49 172 853= >2352 >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE638y9TJbO78VG0aIRAp4+AJ9QN7PHcy4ukph+gUNetSOlVk+DEgCdHHKd >tqugd0ZtS5XG0oNoDTy6ASY=3D >=3DmBWe >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 27 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:29 -0700 (PDT) >From: Adrian Madrid <aemadrid(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: aem(a)byu.edu >Subject: Re: [Zope] UPDATE: Problems calling directory >To: Ben Peter <Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de>, zope(a)zope.org > >--- Ben Peter <Ben.Peter(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> Adrian, >> >> > Although it sounds right I have tried and I sitll >> get >> > KeyError : name not found or allowed. >> ... >> That sounds much like the Portal.Publications.Review >> cannot be properly acquired from where your >> dtml-with snipplet is called. Could you go a bit >> into detail with your folder structure? > >Root > +- Portal (CMF Site) > | +- Members (Folder) > | | +- aem (Folder) > | | +- ArticleX (CMF Article) > | +- Publications (Folder) > | | +- Review (Folder) > | | | +- Vol22 (Folder) > >As you can see I working on a CMF site the is giving >me headaches. ArticleX is a customized content that >has a 'location' property with the directory where it >should show up (ie. 'Publications/Review/Vol22'). > >In the standard_html_header I call a dtml method >(breadcrumbs) where I want to get the fake PARENTS >(the lineage of where it should show). Here follows >some of the code I was working on: > ><dtml-if location> > ><p>Location: &dtml-location; > ><dtml-let transtab="_.string.maketrans('/', '.')" > location2="'Portal.'+_.string.translate(location, >transtab)"> > ><p>Location2: &dtml-location2; > ><p>Works:</p> ><dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review.Vol22"> > <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document > in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> ></dtml-with> > ><p>Does not:</p> ><dtml-with "_.getitem(_.getitem('location2'))"> > <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document > in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> ></dtml-with> > ></dtml-let> > ></dtml-if> > >I don't know if there is something in the CMF that >breaks the logic and I will try that tomorrow. If you >see anything that I can try, please let me know. > >Thanks again for your help, > > > >===== >--------------------------- >Adrian Esteban Madrid >Benson Institute, Webmaster >Brigham Young University >--------------------------- >adrian_esteban(a)madrid.com >=========================== > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 28 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:44:41 +0200 >From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> >To: aem(a)byu.edu, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Problems calling directory > >Hi, > >this is a common understanding problem. To get a feeling >whats bad, try to start the python interpreter >and type in the following: > >class dummy: > def __getitem__(self,key): > return(getattr(self,key)) ># two newlines here > >a=dummy() >b=dummy() >c=dummy() > >b.c=c >a.b=b > >you now can access c thru a and b like this: > >a.b.c > >or a['b']['c'] > >but you cannot use a['b.c'] to access c, since >the objects names are 'b' and 'c' and not 'b.c' > >HTH >Tino Wildenhain > >--On Donnerstag, 19. April 2001 17:39 -0700 Adrian Madrid ><aemadrid(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I have a zclass which defines articles with a >> 'location' field. (ie. location = >> 'Portal.Publications.Review'). My problem is that the >> articles are located in a certain area but need to >> show in the 'location' specified. I don't understand >> why this code works: >> >> <dtml-with "Portal.Publications.Review"> >> <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document >> in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> >> </dtml-with> >> >> While this code does not work: >> >> <dtml-with "_['location']"> >> <p>This is the <dtml-var document_id> Document >> in the <dtml-var title_and_id> Folder.</p> >> </dtml-with> >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> >> ===== >> --------------------------- >> Adrian Esteban Madrid >> Benson Institute, Webmaster >> Brigham Young University >> --------------------------- >> adrian_esteban(a)madrid.com >> =========================== >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 29 >From: "Menno Brandsen" <menno(a)zreal.net> >To: <zope(a)zope.org> >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:49:06 +0200 >Subject: [Zope] Copy 'n Paste > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0C976.C1D09490 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello all, >I'm trying to write a little script that makes it possible to copy a folder >out of the root into a sub folder just by clicking on a link ! > >I've tried this, but it doesnt seem to work ! > ><dtml-let clip="manage_copyObjects(objectIds('pasteme'))"> ><dtml-call "manage_pasteObjects(clip)"> ></dtml-let> > > I hope someone can help out with this ! > > > Cheers, Menno > >------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0C976.C1D09490 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3103.1000" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> ><BODY> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D507594713-19042001>Hello = >all,=20 ></SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D507594713-19042001>I'm = >trying to write=20 >a little script that makes it possible to copy a folder out of the root = >into a=20 >sub folder just by clicking on a link !</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D507594713-19042001>I've = >tried this, but=20 >it doesnt seem to work !</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = >class=3D507594713-19042001><dtml-let=20 >clip=3D"manage_copyObjects(objectIds('pasteme'))"><BR><dtml-call=20 >"manage_pasteObjects(clip)"><BR></dtml-let></SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial = >size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001>I hope someone can help out with this=20 >!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001></SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial = >size=3D2><SPAN=20 >class=3D507594713-19042001>Cheers,=20 >Menno</SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > >------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0C976.C1D09490-- > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 30 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:19:26 +0200 (MET DST) >From: Jerome Alet <alet(a)unice.fr> >To: ethan mindlace fremen <mindlace(a)digicool.com> >cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] problem testing for a permission > >Hi, > >On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, ethan mindlace fremen wrote: > >> --On Thursday, April 19, 2001 23:01:42 +0200 Jerome Alet <alet(a)unice.fr> >> wrote: >> >> > <dtml-if "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View', mymethod)"> >> > Some tests and text >> > <A HREF="<dtml-var URL>/mymethod">Members only</A> >> > Some tests and text >> > </dtml-if> >> > >> > but if I access the pages as an anonymous user then I've got >> > an Unauthorized exception instead of not having the "Members only" link. >> >> you don't want to evaluate truth: you want to see if there's an exception. >> <dtml-try "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View', mymethod)"> >> <A HREF="<dtml-var URL>/mymethod">Members only</A> >> <dtml-except> >> You are Anonymoose! >> </dtml-try> > >Doesn't work, but it's better: the link appears even if the user is >anonymous, but if he clicks on the link then the authentication dialog box >opens. What I want is for the link to not appear at all, if possible. > >the permissions on "my_method" are normal, except View which is only >allowed to roles Manager and Member, and not acquired. > >Zope version is 2.3.1b2 > >bye, > >Jerome Alet > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 31 >From: Uwe Fechner <uwe.fechner(a)4commerce.de> >To: Yvonne Totty <ytotty(a)atinucleus.com> >CC: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?zope=40zope=2Eorg?= <zope(a)zope.org> >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:46:57 +0200 >Subject: [Zope] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=5BZope=5D=20Native=20Database=20for=20Zope?= > >Hi Yvonne, > >we are trying to solve a similar problem with interbase/ firebird= >. >It's a robust database engine, firebird is open source, and there >exist several replication engines for interbase. > >Best regards: > >UFechner(a)4commerce.de >=20 >> All, >>=20 >> We have a system that we need to track orders, inventory, >> etc. Pretty much an enterprise system. >>=20 >> We also would like to be able to mirror and/or set up >> a distributed database. >>=20 >> What system would you guys suggest for this task? >>=20 >> TIA, >>=20 >> -y >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Yvonne Totty >> Database Engineer >> ------------------------- >> Maximus: What we do in life, echoes in eternity. >> -- Gladiator >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists -=20 >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >>=20 > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 32 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:13:40 +0400 (MSD) >From: Oleg Broytmann <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >Reply-To: <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >To: Zope Mailing List <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 > >Hello! > > I did a quick test on how Zope would run on Python 2.1. I didn't do >extensive tests, but at first glance it works without a problem. I've got >some deprecation warnings: > >/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use the re module > import regex >/usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() > DeprecationWarning) >/usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use the re module > import regex >/usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() > DeprecationWarning) > >Oleg. >---- > Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 33 >From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris(a)zope.co.uk> >To: "ethan mindlace fremen" <mindlace(a)digicool.com>, > "Arian de Wit" <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz>, <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:27:11 +0100 > >I also saw this when I was playing with ZPT. > >I think it's some sort of security problem. > >It's think the same error as one I wrote about a few days ago. > >I'll reiterate what I thought then, there is something gone bad in the Zope >security machinery. I can't put my finger on what exactly is wrong, but >things that used to work no longer do so without loosening the permissions. > >I first noticed it when I was using the LoginManager, and at the time >thought it was something I'd fcked up in there. Now I'm not so sure. > >If you check the mailing list there have been sporadic reports of very >similar problems over the last few months, at least they seem similar to me. > >I honestly thought I was losing some of my understanding of the Zope >security machinery, but now I'm pretty sure there's something gone awry. > >I'll do some more investigations and see if I can come up with a simple >example of the problems I'm getting. > >Phil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ethan mindlace fremen" <mindlace(a)digicool.com> >To: "Arian de Wit" <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz>; <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:59 AM >Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Re: page templates!? > > >> --On Friday, April 20, 2001 12:56:16 +1200 Arian de Wit >> <adewit(a)niwa.cri.nz> wrote: >> >> > exceptions.KeyError on Title in "" >> > >> > which is less useful and required me to look at the source -- not a >> > great hardship, but still...) >> > >> > Both objects have a Title defined, so what might be causing this? >> >> hmm ... most objects have a title , few have a Title . Perhaps it is the >> case that's giving you a problem? >> >> ~ethan >> -- >> -mindlace- >> zopatista community liason >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 34 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:40:29 +0200 >From: Martijn Pieters <mj(a)digicool.com> >To: Sim Harbert <sim.harbert(a)zapmedia.com> >Cc: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com>, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] GoLive and WebDAV? > >On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:07:16PM -0400, Sim Harbert wrote: >> I have been checking into using ZPT to allow our designers to edit content, and so >> far things are going pretty well. But, I haven't had a chance to allow our >> designers edit things using the WebDAV interface with HomeSite (I don't have a >> copy). I have checked it a bit myself, and edit things using FTP (Xemacs EFS) and >> have set up certain folders to create PageTemplate objects by default, instead of >> DTML. I can give info on how to change PUT_factory() to get that to work. >> >> The key to using ZPT with GoLive is whether GoLive removes the "extra" attributes >> that ZPT puts in. If it doesn't then things should work. >> >> I'll try to keep you posted on how things go for us. > >GoLive doesn't remove them, so you're in luck. :) > >-- >Martijn Pieters >| Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com >| Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ >| Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ >--------------------------------------------- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 35 >From: "Peter Bengtsson" <peter(a)grenna.net> >To: <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:46 +0200 > >Take the risk of >search-replace all occurances of "regex" with "re". >"regex" is a pretty "odd" word so it's unlikely to find it inside other >words. >Let us know if that worked. > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]De la part de Oleg >> Broytmann >> Envoye : vendredi 20 avril 2001 11:14 >> A : Zope Mailing List >> Objet : [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >> >> >> Hello! >> >> I did a quick test on how Zope would run on Python 2.1. I didn't do >> extensive tests, but at first glance it works without a problem. I've got >> some deprecation warnings: >> >> /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> the re module >> import regex >> /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> DeprecationWarning) >> /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> the re module >> import regex >> /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> DeprecationWarning) >> >> Oleg. >> ---- >> Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru >> Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 36 >From: "Peter Bengtsson" <peter(a)grenna.net> >To: "The Doctor What" <docwhat(a)gerf.org> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: RE: [Zope] ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:47:46 +0200 > >If you want to be more on the safe side here's another way of doing it. > ># create random string like 208h28hd280D7ych987YD98N80e048N3C ># or make that a param >INSERT into table SET name='<dtml-var name>', >lastname='208h28hd280D7ych987YD98N80e048N3C' ><dtml-var sql_delimiter> >SELECT id FROM table WHERE lastname='208h28hd280D7ych987YD98N80e048N3C' ><dtml-var sql_delimiter> >UPDATE table SET lastname='<dtml-var lastname>' WHERE >lastname='208h28hd280D7ych987YD98N80e048N3C' > >Get it? >Peter > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]De la part de The >> Doctor What >> Envoye : vendredi 20 avril 2001 05:48 >> A : zope(a)zope.org >> Cc : Jim Penny >> Objet : Re: [Zope] ZSQL - finding the id of what you just inserted? >> >> >> * The Doctor What (docwhat(a)gerf.org) [010419 21:02]: >> > Howdy again.... >> > >> > I use a dtml-call to call a zsql object that does an insert. I >> > don't specify ID because ID is auto-sequenced by the DB. >> > >> > How can I find out what the ID of that just inserted object is so I >> > can do more operations on it? >> > >> > Related question: Why doesn't this work? >> > <dtml-call >> expr="RESPONSE.redirect('index_html?message=Link+added&url_id='+url_id)"> >> > >> > Zope complains about a builtin... >> >> If figured it out in the end. It was actually a Postgres question: >> INSERT INTO URL >> (val_ProtocolID, Url, Name, Summary, Description, Created) >> VALUES >> ( >> <dtml-sqlvar protocol_id type=int>, >> <dtml-sqlvar url_part type=nb>, >> <dtml-sqlvar url_name type=nb>, >> <dtml-sqlvar url_summary type=nb>, >> <dtml-sqlvar url_description type=nb>, >> now() >> ) >> <dtml-var sql_delimiter> >> SELECT id as url_id >> FROM URL >> WHERE id = currval('url_id_seq') >> >> Ciao! >> >> -- >> Any programming language is at its best before it is implemented and used. >> >> The Doctor What: Un-Humble http://docwhat.gerf.org/ >> docwhat(a)gerf.org KF6VNC >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 37 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:48:27 +0400 (MSD) >From: Oleg Broytmann <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >Reply-To: Oleg Broytmann <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >To: Peter Bengtsson <peter(a)grenna.net> >cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 > >Hi! > > Thank you. But it was only an information message! I didn't ask for >help :))) I only wanted to let people to know that Zope is running on >Python 2.1. > I won't change Zope myself for Python 2.1 - Python 2.1 has many >interesting capabilities, and DC people already announced that they will >produce special version for python 2.1 (probably Zope 2.4). > I cannot speak for them, but I think the most important things are >Unicode and function attributes. Function attributes allow one to mark a >function with user-defined attributes. Zope can use this in a number of >ways. Mark a function as "publishable" (instead of abusing docstrings); >assign roles to the function... etc. > >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Peter Bengtsson wrote: >> Take the risk of >> search-replace all occurances of "regex" with "re". >> "regex" is a pretty "odd" word so it's unlikely to find it inside other >> words. >> Let us know if that worked. >> >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]De la part de Oleg >> > Broytmann >> > Envoye : vendredi 20 avril 2001 11:14 >> > A : Zope Mailing List >> > Objet : [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >> > >> > >> > Hello! >> > >> > I did a quick test on how Zope would run on Python 2.1. I didn't do >> > extensive tests, but at first glance it works without a problem. I've got >> > some deprecation warnings: >> > >> > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> > DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> > the re module >> > import regex >> > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> > regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> > DeprecationWarning) >> > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> > DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> > the re module >> > import regex >> > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> > regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> > DeprecationWarning) > >Oleg. >---- > Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 38 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:46:55 +0200 >From: Geir Bækholt <geirh(a)funcom.com> >Reply-To: Geir Bækholt <geirh(a)funcom.com> >Organization: Funcom Oslo >To: Sim Harbert <sim.harbert(a)zapmedia.com> >CC: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re[2]: [Zope] GoLive and WebDAV? > > >I would love some info on changing PUT_factory for folders. Any chance >of a howTo ?? > >-- >Geir Bækholt >web-developer/designer >geirh(a)funcom.com >http://www.funcom.com > >on or about, Friday, April 20, 2001, we have reason to believe that Martijn Pieters wrote something along the lines of : >MP> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:07:16PM -0400, Sim Harbert wrote: >>> I have been checking into using ZPT to allow our designers to edit content, and so >>> far things are going pretty well. But, I haven't had a chance to allow our >>> designers edit things using the WebDAV interface with HomeSite (I don't have a >>> copy). I have checked it a bit myself, and edit things using FTP (Xemacs EFS) and >>> have set up certain folders to create PageTemplate objects by default, instead of >>> DTML. I can give info on how to change PUT_factory() to get that to work. >>> >>> The key to using ZPT with GoLive is whether GoLive removes the "extra" attributes >>> that ZPT puts in. If it doesn't then things should work. >>> >>> I'll try to keep you posted on how things go for us. > >MP> GoLive doesn't remove them, so you're in luck. :) > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 39 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:50:34 +0200 >From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(a)wildenhain.de> >To: Peter Bengtsson <peter(a)grenna.net>, phd(a)phd.fep.ru >Cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 > >Hi, > >this is only in ansynchat.py, >I replaced it once and it works since then without problems. >However I thought about replacing the whole function where >it gets used with one of my first C extensions if I get so far ;) > >Regards >Tino > >--On Freitag, 20. April 2001 11:41 +0200 Peter Bengtsson <peter(a)grenna.net> >wrote: > >> Take the risk of >> search-replace all occurances of "regex" with "re". >> "regex" is a pretty "odd" word so it's unlikely to find it inside other >> words. >> Let us know if that worked. >> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]De la part de Oleg >>> Broytmann >>> Envoye : vendredi 20 avril 2001 11:14 >>> A : Zope Mailing List >>> Objet : [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >>> >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I did a quick test on how Zope would run on Python 2.1. I didn't do >>> extensive tests, but at first glance it works without a problem. I've got >>> some deprecation warnings: >>> >>> /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >>> DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >>> the re module >>> import regex >>> /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >>> regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >>> DeprecationWarning) >>> /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >>> DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >>> the re module >>> import regex >>> /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >>> regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >>> DeprecationWarning) >>> >>> Oleg. >>> ---- >>> Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd(a)phd.pp.ru >>> Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>> (Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 40 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:52:12 +0200 >From: Martijn Pieters <mj(a)digicool.com> >To: Peter Bengtsson <peter(a)grenna.net> >Cc: phd(a)phd.fep.ru, zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 > >On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:41:46AM +0200, Peter Bengtsson wrote: >> Take the risk of >> search-replace all occurances of "regex" with "re". >> "regex" is a pretty "odd" word so it's unlikely to find it inside other >> words. > >No need to. Because Zope 2.4 will require Python 2.1, Andreas Jung is >already hard at work replacing all regex and ts_regex usage with re. This >is not as simple as it looks; take a look at the recent acrives of >Zope-Checkins starting at: > > http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-checkins/2001-April/author.html#5992 > >-- >Martijn Pieters >| Software Engineer mailto:mj@digicool.com >| Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ >| Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ >--------------------------------------------- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 41 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:31:49 +0100 >From: seb bacon <seb(a)jamkit.com> >To: Brian Lloyd <brian(a)digicool.com> >Cc: zope(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope] __basicnew__ errors > >* Brian Lloyd <brian(a)digicool.com> [010420 00:15]: >> > Whenever I try to import an object from one Zope (2.3.0) to another >> > (2.3.1) I get a >> > >> > Error Type: AttributeError >> > Error Value: __basicnew__ >> > >> > <snip> >> > >> > Why might this be? Can anyone shed any light onto what __basicnew__ >> > does? >> >> __basicnew__ is a rather low-level initialization method in >> ExtensionClass... I've never seen this before though :( >> >> > And has anyone any pointers to understanding these pickled >> > traceback things? Whenever they occur, I find it's usually due to >> > inconsistencies between the pickled product-related info and the >> > products loaded from the filesystem, but I don't know how to go about >> > debugging it. >> >> There is definitely some problem unpickling one or more of the >> objects stored in the db (the junk in the traceback is the >> actual pickle string), but I don't have a quick answer for >> you on the cause here. Is it possible that you forgot to >> copy over a (filesystem) product that defines a base class >> or something used by these instances? > >Yes, it was something like that. The problem went away when I >resynched the Products directories between the two installs, so there >must have been inconsistencies between Product version. Personally I >suspect different versions of ZPatterns. > >This broken product problem occurs frequently on the lists. I've >never looked at the unpickling / db loading code, but I >wonder if there's a way of better identifying broken products at >startup time? Or is there a bootstrapping issue which makes this >impossible? > >cheers, > >seb > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 42 >From: bak (kedai) <kedai(a)kedai.com.my> >To: zope(a)zope.org >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:04:56 +0800 >Subject: [Zope] RFC - newbie with a zope product > >hello >i'm not sure whether this is a proper thing to do, but here goes > >i jsut made myself a python product that grabs a page, and return a list of >items; depending on a few regular expression patterns. > >any kind soul could spare a few minutes to look and comment on my codes? >what i missed out, what should be done, etc > >http://www.kedai.com.my/dll/KebasData.tar.gz >tia > >p/s - no docs as yet since this is still in testing phase > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 43 >Reply-To: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >From: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >To: "Dieter Maurer" <dieter(a)handshake.de> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] [newbie] Property with <dtml-var> in it's value >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:41:05 +0200 >Organization: SYSO GmbH > >Hi Dieter > >I will try this, but unfortunately I don't have any time today. > >Thank you for your help. >Stefan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dieter Maurer" <dieter(a)handshake.de> >To: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:03 PM >Subject: Re: [Zope] [newbie] Property with <dtml-var> in it's value > > >> Stefan Mallepell writes: >> > "A" is the object-instance with a >> > property "l" which contains 'http://www.externalserver.org' and >the id >> > 'externalserver' >> > "B" is another object-instance with a >> > property "c" which contains 'This is text with some links. The >links to >> > the *externalserver* can be in the middle of the text.' >> > >> > In my index_html I show "c" an would like to generate a proper "a href" >> > around *externalserver* ... >> You have 3 problems - all solvable: >> >> 1. locate the ranges in "c" to be replaced by "a href=..." >> 2. find the link for an id ("externalserver" in your example) >> 3. insert the links into "c" >> >> >> For 1. and 3. you would use Python's "re" module (regular expressions), >> more precisly, the "sub" method (for "substitute"). You find documentation >> on "re" in the Python library documentation (--> www.python.org) >> >> As it is not too difficult to create long running regular expressions, >> "re" was considered too dangerous to expose it to DTML or >> Python Script. Thus, you will either need an External Method >> or learn how to make additional modules accessible from >> Python Script (--> searchable mailing list archives). >> >> If you have an "id" and you want to get the corresponding >> object, you can use "_.getitem(id)". Thus, if "id" contains >> "externalserver", then "_.getitem(id).l" will be >> equivalent to "externalserver.l", the "l" attribute of "externalserver". >> This solves 2. >> >> Dieter >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 44 >Reply-To: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >From: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >To: "Luciano Ramalho" <luciano(a)hiper.com.br> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] delete HTML Tags out of a form input >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:04:14 +0200 >Organization: SYSO GmbH > >Hi Luciano > >Thank you! >Stefan > >PS.: I was reading the syntax about 10 times and it never made "klick" ... >well may I should make sometimes a break ... > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Luciano Ramalho" <luciano(a)hiper.com.br> >To: "Stefan Mallepell" <steve(a)syso.ch> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:25 PM >Subject: Re: [Zope] delete HTML Tags out of a form input > > >> Stefan Mallepell wrote: >> > My code is: >> > <dtml-let transtab="_.string.maketrans('><','**')"> >> > <dtml-call >> > "REQUEST.set('Message',_.string.translate(Message,transtab,'><'))"> >> > </dtml-let> >> >> The documentation for translate explains that the third argument, '><' >> in your case, is used to specify characters do be removed before the >> translation occurs. If you do like this... >> >> > "REQUEST.set('Message',_.string.translate(Message,transtab))"> >> >> ...it should work. >> >> Regards, >> >> Luciano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> > > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 45 >From: "Andreas Jung" <andreas(a)digicool.com> >To: "Peter Bengtsson" <peter(a)grenna.net>, > <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >Cc: "zope-list" <zope(a)zope.org> >Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:31:14 -0400 > >You can't switch from regex to re by just replacing regex by re. >Both modules use different notations for regular expressions and have >a *different* API. Stay tuned until Zope 2.4 - this will be regex/regsub >free. I am currently working on this stuff. > >Andreas Jung >Digitial Creations >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peter Bengtsson" <peter(a)grenna.net> >To: <phd(a)phd.fep.ru> >Cc: <zope(a)zope.org> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:41 AM >Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 > > >> Take the risk of >> search-replace all occurances of "regex" with "re". >> "regex" is a pretty "odd" word so it's unlikely to find it inside other >> words. >> Let us know if that worked. >> >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]De la part de Oleg >> > Broytmann >> > Envoye : vendredi 20 avril 2001 11:14 >> > A : Zope Mailing List >> > Objet : [Zope] Zope on Python 2.1 >> > >> > >> > Hello! >> > >> > I did a quick test on how Zope would run on Python 2.1. I didn't do >> > extensive tests, but at first glance it works without a problem. I've >got >> > some deprecation warnings: >> > >> > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> > DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> > the re module >> > import regex >> > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> > regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> > DeprecationWarning) >> > /usr/local/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py:293: >> > DeprecationWarning: the regex module is deprecated; please use >> > the re module >> > import regex >> > /usr/local/lib/python2.1/regsub.py:15: DeprecationWarning: the >> > regsub module is deprecated; please use re.sub() >> > DeprecationWarning) >> > >> > Oleg. >> > ---- >> > Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ >phd(a)phd.pp.ru >> > Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> > (Related lists - >> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > > >End of Zope Digest > >

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