June 2002 - Zope - Zope lists

Zope services in the UK
by Elliot Smith 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Hello all, I wasn't really sure where to post this question, so settled for the most generic list. I apologise if this is off-topic. I work for the University of Birmingham and my team is interested in the potential of Zope as a platform for certain types of site we routinely create (principally those requiring simple content-management-type solutions). However, we would probably need some training and initial consultation to help us decide how to manage the implementation. So, my question: does anyone on this list belong to a Zope support services organisation within the UK, who would be willing to spend half a day talking through our requirements? Or is there anyone out there with recommendations about agencies to contact, or experience of support from such an agency? Anyone with experience of using Zope (supported or not) within a HE environment? Any hints would be useful. Thanks in advance. Elliot Smith ------------------------------ Web Development Engineer Corporate Web Team Information Services University of Birmingham email: e.smith(a)bham.ac.uk telephone: 0121 414 7108

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Re: [Zope] redirect to a renamed folder
by Gary Poster 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

This probably involves too much unneeded functionality for you, but my VirtualHostFolder has some nice redirect functionality. Per host definitions, redirect done before the ZODB is even traversed, nice regex capabilities for the redirect, and so on. http://www.zope.org/Members/poster/VHF requires the OrderedFolder, which itself may need the international language support package in order to properly display button text. I doubt that helps, but just in case... :-) Gary

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RE: [Zope] timeout on external methods?
by Granzow, Doug (NCI) 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Yup, it was Apache. I changed the timeout in Apache and now everything is happy. Sorry for not thinking to mention Apache originally. Thanks for your help! Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Jung [mailto:lists@andreas-jung.com] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 10:33 AM > To: Jerome Alet; Andreas Jung > Cc: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] timeout on external methods? > > > If.....an Apache was not mentioned ;-/ > > -aj > > --On Monday, June 24, 2002 15:38 +0200 Jerome Alet > <alet(a)librelogiciel.com> > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 09:14:56AM -0400, Andreas Jung wrote: > >> That is very likely a webbrowser related timeout but has nothing > >> to do with Zope. > > > > if you use Apache in front of Zope then try to configure > > the Timeout field in httpd.conf. By default it is set to > 300 seconds, > > which means 5 minutes IIRC :-)) > > > > hth. > > > > Jerome Alet > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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ZPT instead of DTML in products - how?
by John Schinnerer 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Aloha, I'm crawling up the zope/python products learning curve...if I want to use ZPT instead of DTML for web interfaces (like index_html, manage_addForm, etc.), how do I specify that? For DTML I find tutorials and howtos showing this sort of thing: from Globals import DTMLFile index_html = DTMLFile('www/index_html', globals()) manage_addForm = DTMLFile('manage_addForm', globals()) ..what is the equivalent of the above for ZPT files instead of DTML files? thanks, John S. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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WHAT IS WDDX, DOES ZOPE SUPPORT IT?
by Robert Rottermann 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Hi friends, for a bid I am asked to answer whether Zope supports wddx. What is that? Does Zope support it? Is it something widely used? thak you mit freundlichen Grüssen Robert Rottermann Wir wollen Technik mit Menschlichkeit verbinden, um Menschen mit Technik zu erreichen. www.redcor.ch - die website www.redcor.net - zope trainings (and more)

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RE: [Zope] timeout on external methods?
by Granzow, Doug (NCI) 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

I only got one reply to this message, from someone who said they weren't aware of any such timeout. Surely someone knows something about this. Here is some more information: As I said before, Zope is calling a Perl script which takes >5 minutes to process. Exactly five minutes after I submit the request in my browser, the following happens: IE 6.0: IE apparently automatically tries to resubmit the request, and a second copy of the perl script is launched. After 10 minutes, IE comes back with an error "This page cannot be displayed" Netscape: At five minutes, Netscape displays "The document contains no data." Opera 6.0.3: At five minutes, Opera displays "Connection closed by remote server." Is this 5 minute timeout configurable? Where does it come from? Thanks, Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: Granzow, Doug (NCI) > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:45 PM > To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: [Zope] timeout on external methods? > > > I have a page in Zope which calls a Perl script via an > External Method. The > perl script takes a long time to complete -- about 8 minutes. > After exactly > 5 minutes, I see a second perl process launched by Zope. At > 8 minutes, the > first perl process completes, but I do not see the response > in my browser. > After 10 minutes, I get "This page cannot be displayed" in my > browser, but > the second perl process is still running. > > Does Zope have a timeout that is causing it to re-try the > perl script after > 5 minutes? Is this adjustable? > >

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Help! FTP access shuts down Zope (solved) NOT!! [repost]
by Roel Van den Bergh 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

After starting with 'nohup' we got FTP access to Zope again. But after 1 or 2 FTP logins (with no errors and clean exits) the retrieval of the filelisting fails and everything hangs again. This occurs wheither we start normally or with the 'nohup' prefix. Anny suggestions? TIA, R. zope 2.5.1, linux redhat 7.0, cmf 1.2 > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: zope-admin(a)zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]Namens Roel Van den > Bergh > Verzonden: maandag 10 juni 2002 15:09 > Aan: Chris McDonough > CC: zope(a)zope.org > Onderwerp: RE: [Zope] Help! FTP access shuts down Zope (solved) > > > Tnx very much, everything seems to be working fine now! > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@zope.com] > > Verzonden: maandag 10 juni 2002 14:42 > > Aan: roel(a)planetinterior.com > > CC: zope(a)zope.org > > Onderwerp: Re: [Zope] Help! FTP access shuts down Zope > > > > > > Roel, > > > > It seems as if Zope is trying to write to a nonexistent console... > > although it probably shouldn't. If you are using UNIX, try to start > > Zope using "nohup". > > > > On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 04:17, Roel Van den Bergh wrote: > > > *This is what happens when you take a break from work to see > > your newborn > > > son* > > > > > > Everytime when we try to access Zope trough FTP at 8021, the > whole Zope > > > server locks out and has to be restarted. > > > > > > This occurred after my colleague downloaded some files > directly from the > > > source of zope while zope was still running. > > > He says he only downloaded stuff like stupidFileLogger and > > index_html.dmtl > > > and main.dtml. > > > > > > Result: we can no longer FTP into the zope database > > > When restarting zope it also says Hotfix_2002-04-15 is broken > > > > > > FTP log file : > > > > > > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > > > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright C 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > > > - - > > > connecting to 194.78.49.253:8021 > > > Connected to 194.78.49.253 port 8021 > > > 220 piwebserver.planetinterior.be FTP server (Medusa Async V1.18.60.1 > > > [experimental]) ready. > > > USER TimW > > > 331 Password required. > > > PASS (hidden) > > > 230 Login successful. > > > PWD > > > 451 Server Error: exceptions.IOError, [Errno 32] Broken pipe: file: > > > /home/zope/2-5-0/lib/python/ZLogger/stupidFileLogg > > > 10:10:38 2002 > > > Hostname: piwebserver.planetinterior.be > > > Port: 9800 > > > ------ > > > 2002-06-10T08:10:38 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Mon Jun 10 > > > 10:10:38 2002 > > > Hostname: piwebserver.planetinterior.be > > > Port: 8021 > > > ------ > > > 2002-06-10T08:10:38 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Mon Jun 10 > > > 10:10:38 2002 > > > Unix socket: /home/zope/2-5-0/var/pcgi.soc > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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First attempt at writing External Method .. need help
by kent＠springfed.com 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Howdy, I wrote the example as in The Zope Book; file hello.py in Extensions dir def hello(): return "Howdy there big world" I created a folder testExternalMethods and added External Method = hello ... It added with no errors, however clicking on the 'Test' tab of object 'hello' does nothing and the URL testExternalMethods/hello produces a blank page What am I missing here? Thanks, Kent

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FastSiteSearch & SiteSearch
by eric.n.dunn＠bankofamerica.com 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Both ways work great! But... How do I configure to search on Yihaw Folders, Yihaw News Items, etc... I figured out how to search on DTML Methods but I have 2 sites that need a search engine for Yihaw Folder items. http://www.zope.org/Members/Ioan/FastSiteSearch http://www.zope.org/Members/Ioan/SiteSearch Eric Dunn

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RE: [Zope] timeout on external methods?
by Granzow, Doug (NCI) 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

I don't think that it is browser-related. If it was, I wouldn't expect IE, Netscape, and Opera to all have the same default setting. Also, I ran snoop to watch what happens. After five minutes of no http packets whatsoever, the first packet comes from the server, not from the browser. This tells me that the server is giving up, not the browser. It could be Apache, now that I think about it. Let me see if accessing this page directly through Zope, rather than proxied through Apache, makes a difference. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Jung [mailto:lists@andreas-jung.com] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:15 AM > To: Granzow, Doug (NCI); 'zope(a)zope.org' > Subject: RE: [Zope] timeout on external methods? > > > That is very likely a webbrowser related timeout but has nothing > to do with Zope. > > -aj > > --On Monday, June 24, 2002 09:04 -0400 "Granzow, Doug (NCI)" > <granzowd(a)mail.nih.gov> wrote: > > > I only got one reply to this message, from someone who said > they weren't > > aware of any such timeout. Surely someone knows something > about this. > > > > Here is some more information: As I said before, Zope is > calling a Perl > > script which takes >5 minutes to process. Exactly five > minutes after I > > submit the request in my browser, the following happens: > > > > IE 6.0: IE apparently automatically tries to resubmit the > request, and a > > second copy of the perl script is launched. After 10 > minutes, IE comes > > back with an error "This page cannot be displayed" > > > > Netscape: At five minutes, Netscape displays "The document > contains no > > data." > > > > Opera 6.0.3: At five minutes, Opera displays "Connection > closed by remote > > server." > > > > Is this 5 minute timeout configurable? Where does it come from? > > > > Thanks, > > Doug > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Granzow, Doug (NCI) > >> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:45 PM > >> To: 'zope(a)zope.org' > >> Subject: [Zope] timeout on external methods? > >> > >> > >> I have a page in Zope which calls a Perl script via an > >> External Method. The > >> perl script takes a long time to complete -- about 8 minutes. > >> After exactly > >> 5 minutes, I see a second perl process launched by Zope. At > >> 8 minutes, the > >> first perl process completes, but I do not see the response > >> in my browser. > >> After 10 minutes, I get "This page cannot be displayed" in my > >> browser, but > >> the second perl process is still running. > >> > >> Does Zope have a timeout that is causing it to re-try the > >> perl script after > >> 5 minutes? Is this adjustable? > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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