August 1999 - Zope-Dev

Zope.org beta site update notice...
by Brian Lloyd 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

Hi all, I'll be updating the software running the Zope.org beta site later this morning - hopefully it will be basically invisible, but I wanted to give everyone a heads up just in case the force isn't with me this morning :^) Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Z2B5 - would like a help button on the control panel
by Brad Clements 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

If DC is planning something terrific for help, great. Otherwise it would be nice to have the help button on the control panel to make it easier to find the product help. I understand why the help tab was removed, but a button on the control panel might be ok, unless there's something even more useful coming.. Otherwise, type in the URL <host>/Control_Panel/manage_help to get it.. Brad Clements, bkc(a)murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com ICQ: 14856937

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Q: How to serve Files/Dirs as documents?
by Thomas Riedl 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

Hi there! After some interruption to my Zoperies (live's no mercy, right? ;-) I'm wondering about this: I'd like (for IMHO quite obvious reasons ;-) to have some mapping from my (Unix) filesystem to Zope objects, like I have directories with (DTML) files which I's like to 'render'. I'm thinking of quite regularly changing file content (due to events external to zope) along with a good deal of 'binaries' whose "meta informations" (version, author, notify-upon-change a.s.o.) are stored in the DTML files. It's also possible that vi-nics want to meddle with them (so, no Emacs EFS support for those boneheads). ( E.g. an User uses his browser to navigate himself to a some 'documentation area'. He then could see for all docs residing there their author, current version, last update time, approval by and all that. By clicking on a 'Document Data' button, his browser would e.g. start some 'version control' wrapper along with StarOffice. If there are changes, this very wrapper would rewrite the appropriate '*.dtml' file. ) A "Magic Black Box" Zope thing would then e.g. try to match an object path to directories, read something like '.properties'-files for each directory to represent folder properties and e.g. '.properties.file.dtml' for each leave object 'file.dtml' and of course use acquisition. ( Such a path might e.g. read '/Zope/Filemap1/home/thatsme/currvitae' and hit a 'currvitae'-File that contains something like 'This is ' and e.g. 'thatsme/.properties' containig a line 'me=My Real Name' Filemap1 according to my current idea would be a Product instantiation of my/some TBD "Magic Black Box FileAccess" product. ). Q's now are: Does this Make Sense? Is there something that could keep me from reinventing a wheel? Why wouldn't I like to do it this way? And which way is the Zen Way to go? TIA Tom Riedl -- MfG: Thomas Riedl =========================================================================== Linux Information Systems AG Stefan-George-Ring 24 (089) 99 34 12-11 81929 München

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(problems with my portal on ZOPE)
by Liart Satiro 19 Aug '99

19 Aug '99

Hello, my name's Liart Satiro Costa Martins I'm a Web-Developer in Brazil, and recently I started work with the ZOPE to create a Portal-Site. But I have a greate problem: In my site I have a table with 2 colums, the heigth of this colums is variable. I create a program of administration for the user include a notice, the user can insert remote a notice and a image (of notice). I make a function in JavaScript what divided the notice in two parts to put the first part in the first colum of my table and the second part in the second colum of my table, but how a insert a determinated image the columns size don't make equals. And I nedd any function or propertie of ZOPE what return the size (widht an heigth) of any image. Thank You Liart S�tiro Costa Martins (producao(a)websolucoes.com.br) WebSolucoes (www.websolucoes.com.br) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Copy a DTML Document
by Liart Satiro 19 Aug '99

19 Aug '99

Please, I need help... I have the follow folders : modelos and administracao in my root folder. I need copy a DTML document (id = model_21) that is in modelos folder to my root folder. How I do that ? PS : the dtml method that I writing is in administracao folder. thanks liart I __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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RE: [Zope-dev] Documentation Tool Requirements
by Michel Pelletier 19 Aug '99

19 Aug '99

I think XML format for all docs is a requirement (up to debate). This way Zope can be used to manage the content using XML Documents, and the passive data can be 'activated' very easily. Also, our current Docs are written in framemaker, which (with the $2K addon) will output SGML and XML. -Michel > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Richter [mailto:SRichter@ixl.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 12:14 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org; zope-dev(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope-dev] Documentation Tool Requirements > > > hey Zopesters, > > I originally posted this message to the ZDP list, but I > thought some of you > guys may have some great input too. > > So, here you go. What I am looking for are requirements like features, > usability, workflow, user levels and many other things that > you would like to > see in the new FAQ, Tutorials, How-To's and Reference Manual. > The first two main tools will be FAQ and the Reference > Manual. These will be > implemented first. > Here is the format (XML) you should send the requirements in: > <category title="title"> > <abstract> > Structured Text describing the category (not > neccessary if the > category already exists. > </abstract> > > <entries> > <entry title="title of entry"> > <status>Requirement captured</status> > <rating>1-10</rating> > <name>Your name</name> > <abstract> > Please describe your requirement in > structured text. I did not > write renders for html tags. > </abstract> > </entry> > </entries> > > </category> > > The responses I got so far you can see at: > http://www.zope.org:18200/Members/srichter > > PLEASE DO NOT SEND RESPONSES TO THE ENTIRE LIST SO WE DO > NOT FILL UP MAILBOXES. > I will post the results every night. Please do not reply with > requirements on > the mailing list in normal text format, since it will take me > forever to > extract them and put them into the proper format. Let's see > how strong the > community can be. > > THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT. > > regards, > stephan > -- > Stephan Richter > iXL - Software Designer and Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For non-developer, user-level issues, > zope(a)zope.org, http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) >

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Documentation Tool Requirements
by Stephan Richter 19 Aug '99

19 Aug '99

hey Zopesters, I originally posted this message to the ZDP list, but I thought some of you guys may have some great input too. So, here you go. What I am looking for are requirements like features, usability, workflow, user levels and many other things that you would like to see in the new FAQ, Tutorials, How-To's and Reference Manual. The first two main tools will be FAQ and the Reference Manual. These will be implemented first. Here is the format (XML) you should send the requirements in: <category title="title"> <abstract> Structured Text describing the category (not neccessary if the category already exists. </abstract> <entries> <entry title="title of entry"> <status>Requirement captured</status> <rating>1-10</rating> <name>Your name</name> <abstract> Please describe your requirement in structured text. I did not write renders for html tags. </abstract> </entry> </entries> </category> The responses I got so far you can see at: http://www.zope.org:18200/Members/srichter PLEASE DO NOT SEND RESPONSES TO THE ENTIRE LIST SO WE DO NOT FILL UP MAILBOXES. I will post the results every night. Please do not reply with requirements on the mailing list in normal text format, since it will take me forever to extract them and put them into the proper format. Let's see how strong the community can be. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT. regards, stephan -- Stephan Richter iXL - Software Designer and Engineer

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Re: [Zope-dev] Something doesn't seem quite right with CopySupport.py/Moniker.py
by Kevin Dangoor 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

-----Original Message----- From: Brian Lloyd <Brian(a)digicool.com> To: 'Kevin Dangoor' <kid(a)kendermedia.com>; Brian Lloyd <Brian(a)digicool.com>; zope-dev(a)zope.org <zope-dev(a)zope.org> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Something doesn't seem quite right with CopySupport.py/Moniker.py >> Files\Byproducts\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 198, >> in manage_pasteObjects >> (Object: CatalogAware) >> Copy Error: (see above) > >hmmm - CatalogAware? That looks strange indeed. To take a >guess, it looks like the paste is failing on a ZClass >instance. A way to test this would be to try your copying >external method on two plain folders that contain only >"builtin" objects like files or images. If the method works >in that case, then I suspect something funny about one of >your ZClasses. In particular, make sure that all of them >list either ZObject or ZObjectManager in their list of base >classes. Also, did any of the ZClasses you are copying get >imported into your site from an earlier Zope version? Thanks for the hints... Keep in mind that I have been able to copy and paste to this ZClass through the management interface... I just performed four tests... 1) Run the candp method with the destination being a normal Folder. This worked. 2) Run the candp method with the destination being a new ZClass with base classes of CatalogAware and Object Manager. This worked also. 3) Try to copy the image into a ZClass that exists above the real target ZClass in the hierarchy (I have ZClasses nested a few levels deep). This worked... 4) Create a ZClass contained within the ZClass from test 2 (also with bases of CatalogAware and ObjectManager). When I try to create an instance of this class, I get (right after clicking the Add button): Sorry, the requested Zope resource does not exist.<p>Check the URL and try again.<p>  Traceback (innermost last): File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 209, in publish_module File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 179, in publish File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 199, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions) File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 151, in publish File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\ZPublisher\BaseRequest.py, line 422, in traverse File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\AccessControl\User.py, line 373, in validate (Object: RoleManager) File C:\Program Files\Byproducts\lib\python\ZPublisher\HTTPResponse.py, line 510, in notFoundError NotFound: (see above) The permissions seem to be fine... (there is an Add Foo2s permission, the factory has that permission selected... I've selected the Add Foo1s and Add Foo2s permissions for each of the permissions in the Define Permissions tab of both ZClasses and I've tried this as both a Manager and the superuser). I could swear I was able to do this in the last beta... I will say this: the ZClass that I am trying to copy an image into is KMArticle from KM|Net News. I *think* this class did originate in the last beta. That was why I wanted to try a fresh class, and ran into the problem above. Here is the original DTML method that I'm getting the error in:  <dtml-with oldart> <dtml-with 1999> <dtml-in "objectIds(['Folder'])"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('month', _['sequence-item'])"> <dtml-with "_[_['sequence-item']]"> <dtml-in "objectIds(['Folder'])"> <dtml-with "_[_['sequence-item']]"> <p> <dtml-var title> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('id', id)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('title', title)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('email', email)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('author', author)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('teaser', summary)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('text_content', text)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('createtime', createtime)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('release', release)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('current', 'on')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('top', 'off')"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('category', category)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('importance', importance)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('score', 2000000000-score)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('points', points)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('votes', votes)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('topimg', topimg)"> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('fobj', this())"> <dtml-with art> <dtml-with 1999> <dtml-with "_[month]"> <dtml-call "KMArticle_add(_.None, _, NoRedir=1)"> <dtml-with "_[REQUEST['id']]"> <dtml-call "candp(fobj, this(), REQUEST)"> </dtml-with> </dtml-with> </dtml-with> </dtml-with> </p> </dtml-with> </dtml-in> </dtml-with> </dtml-in> </dtml-with> </dtml-with>  There are two things that I'm wondering about: 1) I'm getting to the "art" ZClass through acquisition from several levels deep. Could this cause a problem? 2) Would there be any problem pasting to an object that is created during the same transaction? Sorry for the deluge of info, but I thought I might be able to save you from having to ask for each additional step... Let me know if there is more than I can do to test and clarify. Thanks! Kevin

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RE: [Zope-dev] Something doesn't seem quite right with CopySuppor t.py/Moniker.py
by Brian Lloyd 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

> >I _think_ the problem is that the copy/paste machinery > >really needs to be called with a REQUEST so that it can > >verify whether the copy is allowed. Try this and let me > >know if you still have problems: > > > > def candp(fobj, tobj, REQUEST): > > "Copy and paste" > > > > ids = fobj.objectIds() > > if not ids: > > return > > cdata = fobj.manage_copyObjects(ids) > > tobj.manage_pasteObjects(cdata, REQUEST) > > I made these changes, and modified my DTML to be: > <dtml-call "candp(fobj, this(), REQUEST)"> > > I'm getting the same error (one or more items not found). > Here's the end of > the traceback... > ... > Files\Byproducts\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 198, > in manage_pasteObjects > (Object: CatalogAware) > Copy Error: (see above) > > Anything else to try? hmmm - CatalogAware? That looks strange indeed. To take a guess, it looks like the paste is failing on a ZClass instance. A way to test this would be to try your copying external method on two plain folders that contain only "builtin" objects like files or images. If the method works in that case, then I suspect something funny about one of your ZClasses. In particular, make sure that all of them list either ZObject or ZObjectManager in their list of base classes. Also, did any of the ZClasses you are copying get imported into your site from an earlier Zope version? Thanks! Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com

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Re: [Zope-dev] the right way to do wiki in zope ?
by Simon Michael 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

Anthony, thanks for your comments. > Yup, first call it ZikiSpace ;) Could do, could do.. :) I'm fond of the word "wiki" though. > This can be done with a Zclass subclassing DTML Doc. Then, have a > ZikiSpace folder object which has only one subobject: ZikiBit. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding - do you mean the folder can contain multiple ZikiBits - subclasses of DTML Doc - each one of which is a wiki page ? Is it better to build a simplified ziki_edit mechanism or should we leverage zope's existing manage_* methods, I wonder. Time for me to get friendly with zclasses!

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