April 2007 - Zope-Dev

anon http svn access status?
by Reinout van Rees 18 May '07

18 May '07

Hi all, This morning I proposed on the plone.dev list to create a anon http mirror of svn.zope.org and to include links to that in the plone bundles. It is one of those perpetual proposals that turn up from time to time buried at the tail end of mailinglist threads. "It would be nice if...". So I started a separate thread for it to get it discussed for real :-) Wiggy rightfully suggested I'd ask it here first, as it would be something that's best handled by svn.zope.org itself. I searched the mailinglist a bit and it seemed that write access using https is out of the question policy-wise, but that http anonymous access could happen. plone's svn has a read-only mirror at google code now, perhaps that's a good option for svn.zope.org, too? So: will anon http svn access happen? Reinout -- Reinout van Rees r.van.rees @ zestsoftware.nl http://vanrees.org/weblog/ http://zestsoftware.nl/ "Military engineers build missiles. Civil engineers build targets."

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Killer App for ZClasses
by Christopher Lozinski 04 May '07

04 May '07

Thank you very much for all the advice, and particularly for the list of problems with ZClasses. I had been thinking of jumping in and fixing some of those things. I am not quite sure where to start. What do I work on to benefit ZClasses, while taking care of my immediate business needs? I also must be mindful that I do not represent enough users to get my changes to the Zope core to be accepted and integrated into the product. Last night, I was wondering what should I do? Not only technically, what should I fix first, but also socially how should I proceed? Fortuitously, this morning, my associate Christopher Appell, who has been doing a brilliant job, calls me up and says: I want an application where we, and clients can track invoices. What I heard him say is: I need a very simple app. Just 1 ZClass, an invoice object. Not even subitems on the invoice. I want to create these ZClasses, I want a table of these ZClasses, I want to be able to say which role gets to create these objects, which role gets to see which fields, and which role gets to edit which fields. I would also like a search form with a ZCatalog, and I would like an edit/create form. All I want is to define the fields of the Zclass, and have the rest magically appear. I want the application to be built really quickly. Can you deliver by Monday? I thought, hey, I bet a million people need such a simple web app. Let us make it really easy to implement craigslist or better. Let me go ahead and create a ZClass product, and go ahead and distribute it. Lots of people would use it. Or at least enough to build up a critical mass. And then as some of those people go ahead and stretch the boundaries of the app, they will fix all of the ZClass problems we all know about. They will fix them for their own reasons, which is of course what drives open source. What do you think? Is this an effective way to operate on the social medium which is open source? Of course those who want to deprecate ZClasses will think this is a terrible terrible idea. I am fine with ZClasses being a separate product. I have a much richer deeper long-term vision of where this is going, but the longest road begins with a single step. Regards Chris

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Zope Tests: 5 OK
by Zope Tests Summarizer 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Apr 29 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Mon Apr 30 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun Apr 29 20:47:57 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007654.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun Apr 29 20:49:28 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007655.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun Apr 29 20:50:59 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007656.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun Apr 29 20:52:30 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007657.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun Apr 29 20:54:01 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007658.html

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Zope Tests: 5 OK
by Zope Tests Summarizer 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sat Apr 28 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Sun Apr 29 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Apr 28 20:51:39 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007649.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Apr 28 20:53:10 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007650.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Apr 28 20:54:41 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007651.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Apr 28 20:56:12 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007652.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sat Apr 28 20:57:42 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007653.html

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[Announce] mod_i18n implements the i18n namespace
by Joachim Zobel 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hi. The original inventors of the i18n namespace may be interested that there is yet another implementation: http://www.heute-morgen.de/modules/mod_i18n/mod_i18n.c This implements the i18n namespace in an apache output filter. This means it postprocesses the html before it is send out and does text replacement according to the i18n attributes. It uses libxml2 for html/xml parsing, which is done in another module (mod_xml2). Sincerely, Joachim

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Zope Tests: 5 OK
by Zope Tests Summarizer 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Apr 27 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Sat Apr 28 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Apr 27 20:51:27 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007644.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Apr 27 20:52:58 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007645.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Apr 27 20:54:29 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007646.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Apr 27 20:56:00 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007647.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Fri Apr 27 20:57:31 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007648.html

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Zope Tests: 5 OK
by Zope Tests Summarizer 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Apr 26 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Fri Apr 27 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Apr 26 20:51:52 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007639.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Apr 26 20:53:23 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007640.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Apr 26 20:54:54 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007641.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Apr 26 20:56:25 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007642.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Apr 26 20:57:56 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007643.html

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 723 Blamelist: andreasjung,baijum,ctheune,fdrake,gary,icemac,jim,ksmith_mcweekly,mj,oestermeier,schwendinger,tseaver,voblia,wichert,zagy BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 726 Blamelist: alecm,alga,andreasjung,baijum,ctheune,faassen,fdrake,gary,hdima,icemac,jacobholm,jim,ksmith_mcweekly,lra,mj,oestermeier,philikon,schwendinger,stmartin,tseaver,voblia,wichert,zagy BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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ZClassNG and ProductNG proposal
by Christopher Lozinski 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

I think I have figured out how to do it. This looks like a ZMI based ZClass, you can define it through the ZMI, you can add instance variables, you can add instance methods, all through the ZMI, but you can change inheritance, because it is really a product created on the file system. Check out the proposal. http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/ZClassesNGAndProductNG Thanks for all the good criticism. I am writing most of this on the proposal document on the wiki, rather than in an email, because I know it will change and evolve very rapidly. There is a place at the bottom of that wiki for you to write all the bad things about this proposal. Let me know if you want to work with me on this. Regards Chris

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