Zope-Dev February 2006

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Two visions
by Jim Fulton 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

I'd like to get feedback on two possible visions for the future of Zope 2 and Zope 3. 1) Our current vision (AFAIK) is that Zope 3 will eventually replace Zope 2 - There will be lots of overlap between the Zope 2 and Zope 3 lifetimes. (Zope 2 might be supported more or less forever.) - Eventually, the gap between Zope 2 and will become very small. requiring a small leap. In this vision, Zope 3 would have to become a lot more like Zope 2, or we would lose features. 2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5. - Zope 5 will be the application server generally known as Zope. It will be backward compatible (to the same degree that Zope 2 releases are currently backward compatible with previous Zope 2 releases) with Zope 2. Zope 5 will similarly be backward compatible with Zope 3 applications built on top of the current Zope 3 application server. Note that Zope 5 will leverage Zope 3 technologies to allow a variety of configurations, including a Zope 2-like configuration with implicit acquisition and through-the-web development, and a Zope 3-like configuration that looks a lot like the current Zope 3 application server. Maybe, there will be a configuration that allows Zope 2 and Zope 3 applications to be combined to a significant degree. - Zope 3 will explode. :) For many people, Zope 3 is first a collection of technologies that can be assembled into a variety of different applications. It is second a Zope 2-like application server. I think that these folks aren't really interested in the (Zope 2-like) application server. Zope 3 will continue as a project (or projects) for creating and refining these technologies. (It would probably make sense for this activity to to have some name other than "Zope". On some level, the logical name would be "Z" (pronounced "Zed" :). An argument against "Z" is that it would be hard to google for, but Google handles such queries quite well and I'd expect that we'd move to the top of Google Z search results fairly quickly. However, I'll leave naming decisions to experts. ;) Advantages of this vision: - Zope 2 users don't need to leave Zope 2. - Zope 3 doesn't have to reproduce all Zope 2 features. - There wouldn't be confusion about 2 Zopes. It is important that Zope 5 be backward compatible with both Zope 2 and Zope 3, although not necessarily in the same configuration. Many people are building Zope 3 applications today and they should not be penalized. Thoughts? Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org

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Zope 2.9 releases for Windows?
by Chris Withers 03 Mar '06

03 Mar '06

Hi All, I see there are no Zope 2.9 releases for Windows. There probably should be ;-) What can I do to help with that? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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Release schedule and deprecation decisions
by Jim Fulton 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one month to may and November from June and December. This means that the next release is scheduled for May and the next feature freeze is April 1. - We will support deprecated features for 1 year. I consider there to be decisions. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@zope.com Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org

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Re: [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py using startswith()
by Lennart Regebro 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

On 2/28/06, Andreas Jung <andreas(a)andreas-jung.com> wrote: > - if name[0] == '_': > + if name.startswith('_'): Just a question: Is this only a matter of stylistic changes, or is there some, like, speedup involved? -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/

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ZClass Replacement Volunteer
by Christopher Lozinski 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

I am considering volunteering to rewrite ZClasses. Who do I speak to? Chris

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6
by buildbot＠zope.com 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 3396 Blamelist: andreasjung,chrism,nathan,sidnei BUILD FAILED: failed failed slave lost sincerely, -The Buildbot

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Inhibit URL-traversal
by Dario Lopez-Kästen 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Greetings, for a product I am writing, i need to experiment with inhibiting URL-traversal to the methods and subobjects of it. I still wnat the methods and objects to be available via direct call, for instance: from a script or template: container.my_product_instance.some_method(...) but not http://some/url/my_product_instance/some_method?... In effect I am hiding that part of the zodb for external access- Also, can such a behaviour be imposed on templates (they being methods really) and Script(Python)s? Thanks, /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6
by buildbot＠zope.com 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 3389 Blamelist: andreasjung,ctheune BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 3389 Blamelist: andreasjung,ctheune BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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[JOB] Python/Zope Dev, Rockville, MD | 60-100k | Relo OK
by Beau Gould 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Python/Zope Dev, Rockville, MD | 60-100k | Relo OK Job Description: The main part of our development will take place in our Rockville, MD office. We are looking for a developer who will work from this office. The envisioned services are web applications and thorough knowledge and expertise in developing these kinds of applications is essential. We seek core competencies in web application development, both on the client side creating rich internet applications (RIA/AJAX) and on the server side of the application. Fine tuning and scalability expertise is of interest. Next to technical and computer science expertise, the developer should be comfortable in a multi-disciplinary context and should be able to explain technical issues to smart but not-so-technical colleagues. Familiarity with the biomedical domain and language is a plus. Qualifications: Python / Zope / Java / Object Oriented Programming, HTML / CSS / XML / JavaScript / Rich Internet Applications (RIA / AJAX), Linux / Windows. Candidates should be willing to work in the MD, VA, D.C. area and be authorized to work in the USA. Relocation assistance provided. This is an on-site, salaried position in Rockville, MD. Please no offshore or telecommuters. To be considered, please submit your resume, a paragraph highlighting your Python / Zope experience and your salary requirements to beau(a)open-source-staffing.com Python/Zope Jobs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pythonzopejobs Open Source Jobs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/opensourcejobs -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/270 - Release Date: 2/27/2006

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