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_setName issue (was declarePrivate doesn't)
by Chris Withers 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Hi Shane, I remember you raising the issue requiring _setName, so I geuss you're the man to ask when it doesn't work ;-) >From the SQL class in SQL.py: manage=manage_main=DTMLFile('dtml/edit', globals()) manage_main._setName('manage_main') __ac_permissions__=( ('Change Database Methods', ('manage', 'manage_main')), ) Now, I subclass this to make my FS ZSQL Method and haev the following in the subclass: # Make mutators private security.declarePrivate('manage','manage_edit','manage_advanced') security.declareObjectProtected(View) security.declareProtected(ViewManagementScreens, 'manage_main') manage_main = Globals.DTMLFile('custzsql', _dtmldir) So, manage_edit and manage_advanced have indeed become private.. ..but '/manage' still brings me up the edit form on my FS ZSQL Method. Why? I wondered... Well, in SQL.py, there's a _setName to make manage use the manage_main name, which in my subclass is protected by ViewManagementScreens. So, this seems to take precendence over the declarePrivate. That feels like a bug to me, what do otehr people think? cheers, Chris

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[Fwd: [Zope-dev] declarePrivate doesn't?!]
by Chris Withers 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Chris Withers wrote: > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > (this is whilst trying to write an FS ZSQL Method for the CMF, I can't post code > > to anyone interested...) > > Actually, I can post code, I just can't type... ...and I'll never get the hang of this Reply All thing ;-) Chris

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declarePrivate doesn't?!
by Chris Withers 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Hi, My understanding is that: security.declarePrivate('manage') ...should make the manage method no longer accessible TTW? Well, it doesn't :-( What could I be doing to trip this up? (this is whilst trying to write an FS ZSQL Method for the CMF, I can't post code to anyone interested...) cheers, Chris

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Errors in ZDG intentional or is my copy just old and buggy?
by Dario Lopez-Kästen 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Hello! After muchos problemas understanding how to use and apply the poll product example, I have found several other errors and omissions. Using Zope 2.4.1 I have done the example halfway, and have finally understood how to call the damned thing :-) using dtml. This makes me wonder: are there intentional errors in the ZDG examples or is it just so that I have an buggy version? If I have a buggy version how do I download the latest? I assume I have to do it from CVS but what module do I have to download (spoken like a true cvs newbie :-)? If I find stuff that I'd like to correct and/or elaborate and would like to be considered as corrections to the existing documents, where do I send it for approval? Any help is appreciated. /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario(a)ita.chalmers.se ICQ will yield no hits IT Systems & Services

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Re: Errors in ZDG intentional or is my copy just old and buggy?
by Dario Lopez-Kästen 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

> If I have a buggy version how do I download the latest? I assume I have to > do it from CVS but what module do I have to download (spoken like a true cvs > newbie :-)? [Note to self: "investigate first, act later!"] It turns out that I need stronger glasses: there is a link to cvs in the htmlpages of the ZDG at zope.org, that I completely failed to see. duh. /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario(a)ita.chalmers.se ICQ will yield no hits IT Systems & Services

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minor bug in TreeTag.py
by Oliver Bleutgen 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

Since the collector is down I post it here zope 2.3.3, 2.4 If branches and branches_expr is given, the tree tag should raise a parse error, in TreeTag.py: 134 raise ParseError, _tm( 135 'branches and and branches_expr given', 'tree') But _tm seems not to exist anymore, so zope raises a NameError, ErrorValue: _tm. Perhaps _tm is a remnant of older zope releases and doesn't exist anymore? I didn't find it defined anywhere. Quick greping reveals that _tm is also used in MIMETag.py. cheers, ol

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SV: [Zope-dev] CMF and 2.4.0
by Magnus Heino (Rivermen) 07 Sep '01

07 Sep '01

> > Well, I'm stuck with 2.3.x because of the CMF ;-p > > What?! > > The CMF definitely works on 2.4.0.... > > (hint: learn how to use CVS ;-) You shouldn't have to. http://www.zope.com/Products/Download should be all you need, and it's not at the moment. Wrong Zope version, and a CMF version that doesn't work with it. /Magnus

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CMF and 2.4.0
by James Johnson 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

>From: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> >if anyone told you Open Source was "free" they were lying. This is the >"price" >you pay... > >Chris It's not the "price". I love the price. Its the way it seems its inferred if I pull the CMF from CVS that's ok to use with a production 2.4 code. If thats the case, why not release at least a beta, or is that dude from zope corp still on vaction? ;-) I like using bleeding edge technologies like Zope. However when asked to use bleeding edge versions of it, as expected a feel faint for all the loss of fluids. I look at a product such as phpnuke, and I say why do I have to use x Zope products to achieve 1 php product. I still don't see why you would need to split Starsky and Hutch. Right now it's more a Baretta and Fred thing. And until they do like a Peaches and Herb thing and are Reunited, I'll have to wait. Zope core manages content by itself. So how you gonna have by the same company, two products that basically do the same thing. Sounds like doublespeak, and a good way to get some salaries shuffeled around. Imho having them labeled 2 separate products will end up being a hindrance to the overall project anyway. I'll take it anyway I can get it. I don't have any complaints, I love what's going on. I just don't understand parts of it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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(Errors and omissions in)[??] the Poll product in ZopeDevelopersGuide
by Dario Lopez-Kästen 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

Hello! Has anybody had any success in building the Poll product by following the instructions in the Zope Developers Guide **only**? I have no luck unless I used previous knowledge. There seem to be a couple of inconsistensies in the ZDG step-by step. Here are the things i **think** are wrong (if I am correct that is :-): on page 29: last example of the interactive testing: it is abvious from this line that the author is using a different file than the book has used so far. The book mentions no "poll2.py" file and, at this point, there is no method called "castVoteFor", it should be called "castVote" on page 30; section "Globals.Persistent": the example here given is that to trigger the persistency machinery you have to use the following syntax: self._p_changed = 1 However, on page 34 the final example uses the following syntax self._votes = self._votes there is no mention of what this achieves and no mention of why not the _p_changed attribute is used anymore on pages 34-35, "Factories and Constructors", the guide goes about explaining how to add the constructors to the Poll product. There's a very brief explanation of what factories are but there is no explanation of what constructors are. There seem to be a couple of other errors in the examples as well: on page 35; the addForm method misses the "self" parameter. Shouldn't there be a docsring in this method to make it publishable? on page 35; the addFunction method also misses the "self" parameter. the whole chapter also fails to mention that the addForm and addMethods should not be defined in the PollProduct class it self, but are rather part of the PollProduct **module**, that is, they are defined on the top level of the PollImplementation module /.py file. There also is no mention of whether the addForm and addFunction modules are part of the PollImplementation or if they should be defined in the Poll module/interface file as well. Also: should there be no security delcarations for the constructors? Will put this in the sourceforge tracker as well. Cheers, /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario(a)ita.chalmers.se ICQ will yield no hits IT Systems & Services

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CMF and 2.4.0
by James Johnson 06 Sep '01

06 Sep '01

>From: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> >To: James Johnson <tacomabbs(a)hotmail.com> >CC: zope-dev(a)zope.org >Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] CMF and 2.4.0 >Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:58:14 +0100 > >James Johnson wrote: > > > > >But hey, why not complain anyway. As I'm stuck with >2.3.x because of > > >ZPatterns, I'm not going to get to enjoy these changes >for quite a >while. > > Well, I'm stuck with 2.3.x because of the CMF ;-p > >What?! > >The CMF definitely works on 2.4.0.... > >(hint: learn how to use CVS ;-) > >cheers, > >Chris Come on Chris lets not go one below the leader. Not only do you want me to become a public beta tester, now you want me to learn another tool in order to pull what is essentialy a service pack? That statement should read "The CVS version of the CMF works with Zope 2.4.x" (hint: have you tried CVS?) I"ve heard stories of people getting it to work with 2.3.x, but some people have problems. If I remember there was talk on the list about the New Religion,CMF, and Zope 2.4. Heck it might have been ZPatterns I'm thinking about. I've asked a couple of times about the next CMF release, and no answer. Now your telling me to use CVS. Zope and the CMF are like Starsky and Hutch. Now you're telling me Hutch/CMF is in CVS/Prison and I have to checkout/parole him to be with starsky/2.4.x You have to be a suit to come up with some stuff like that. We're not selling Bibles here chris. Although I'd swear Zope can walk on water, we at least know it can swim in it. On the for real note thanks Chris for the advice. I'm on windows and use mstools for source control. I plan to learn CVS. I just thought Zope, and the CMF were a higher priority ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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