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Objects with multiple parents and storage flexibility, ZPatterns?
by Chris Withers 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Hi, Once again I'm back at trying to solve this problem, hopefully with a little more knowledge this time ;-) What I'd like: 'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied to the ZODB but where the objects have a normal properties page (in terms of use, again, it'd be nice if it could be stored anywhere) and participate in all the normal Zope security and management interface processes, and they need to be catalogable. This sounds like ZPatterns to me, am I right? If so, it appears there are two choices: 1. Folder w/Customiser Support (FwCS ;-) and DataSkins 2. Specialist with one or more Racks and DataSkins Which one of these would be most appropriate? FwCS containg DataSkins that also mix in the Folder class sound like they'd give a closer approximation to 'real Zope objects', but Racks sound like the only way that objects of the same metatype can come from different sources (eg, some objects of type 'X' from ZODB, some from SQL, some from LDAP ,etc) and seem to be more flexible in general, but can I have DataSkins that nest stored in a specialists' rack, eg: http://server:8080/specialist/dataskin1/dataskin2 How about doing something like: http://server:8080/specialist/dataskin1/dataskin2/manage ? Any help is good help, sorry this is a bit rambling, if you need mroe info, I'll be happy to supply it :-S cheers, Chris

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ZPatterns question
by cs＠comlounge.net 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Hi there! Finally I managed to get a basic understanding of how to do things with ZPatterns ;-) So seems quite cool :) (and hopefully I find some time to write some basic howto about it) But I have some little questions: 1. Is it possible to retrieve the set of known IDs from a specialist? Or would I need to add my own method to it which does this (and change it accordingly if I switch to another storage method)? 2. Is it planned to provide something like a virtual folder which acts like a normal object manager but is controlled via ZPatterns (so actually something like Folder with Customizer Support just without the "anchor" in ZODB. (would also require some mechanism asked for in 1.) 3. Is it possible to use ZPatterns also without some exta ZClass defined in a Product? At least if I don't need methods for my objects but simple want to define the attribute they know. Would be nice as I could then hold everything together in one place (the specialist that is) without requiring to install something also in the Products folder of the Control Panel. That's it for now, I will keep experimenting then.. :) cheers, Christian -- Christian Scholz MrTopf@IRC COM.lounge http://comlounge.net/ communication & design cs(a)comlounge.net

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RFE: Make PythonScripts.standard available from DTML _.standard
by Steve Alexander 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

This is an RFE for Zope 2.3. I'm posting it here for discussion, rather than in the Collector. In the new PythonScripts product (that is a standard part of Zope 2.3) there is a standard utility module that can be imported into a Python Script with import Products.PythonScripts.standard or from Products.PythonScripts.standard import * It contains useful functions such as those for text formatting (html_quote, url_quote_plus, and so on). It also contains the DTML class for creating temporary chunks of restricted DTML. These functions would be really useful as part of the DTML _ namespace variable. I sometimes find myself wanting to use html_quote in a DTML expression. I'd also be able to use these functions from ZPatterns SkinScript. The PythonScripts product could add these functions to the _ namespace variable at product init time, so there would be no need to change the DocumentTemplate modules. -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited http://www.cat-box.net

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Re: [Zope-dev] protocol accesibility
by Chris Withers 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Toby Dickenson wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:18:07 +0000, Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> > wrote: > > >http://www.zope.org//Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ProtocolAccessibility > > > >So it is :-) > > > >Comments are still welcome... > > Comments provided as requested With sensible defaults, what I was proposing would be just as simple as things are now, but explicit and flexible. For example, if you start a method name with _, it's not URL traversable, or available in DTML. I have no idea about FTP but it probabyl won't be accessible through DAV. Alternatively, if you give a method in a python a doc string, it will be URL traversable. Take that doc string away and it won't be url traversable but will be accessible in DTML. Again, don't know about FTP or DAV. I agree the wording might be bad (that proposal is very old now), but how can something that seeks to clearly define and document something that has already been partially and accidentally implemented (as was often the Zope way ;-) be a bad thing? cheers, Chris PS: How would you hide things like standard_html_header and _footer from users? Access Contents Information is needed by a lot of methods (some of which aren't available to give proxy roles to) that using it to prevent peole from sniffing around in your site isn't feasible.

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objectIds -- accesible for everyone -- why?
by morten＠esol.no 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

If you type in http://www.zope.org/Members/objectIds you get a list of all Members. Although it is a useful feature.. ;) .. I can't really see why objectIds should be available for everyone, at any given time. Is this a bug or a feature? -Morten

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Re: [Zope-dev] case insensitive sorts
by Dieter Maurer 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Chris Withers writes: > Andrew > bart > David > sophie > Wayne Why in hell do you switch caseness for similar objects? If you apply some naming conventions, such as "objects start with a Capital letter, verb with a lowercase letter", you may find Python's sorting order usefull. Dieter

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Internationalization
by Keith.Larson＠Spatial.Com 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Hello, Has anyone translated a site within Zope ? I have tried the ZBabel Translation System (http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel) and didn't think it did really what I was after. I need to translate the site into French , German , and Japanese . I assume the best way is to pull the different languages from a database via a python external method or just Zmysql Any help would be appreciated Keith Larson

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RE: [Zope-dev] ghost product
by Tim McLaughlin 05 Jan '01

05 Jan '01

Thanks for the delete issue, however that puts me at ground 0 again. THis product will not show up in the products list... here's the __init__.py import ZSQLTable def initialize(context): """Initialize the ZSQLTable product. """ context.registerClass( ZSQLTable.ZSQLTable, permission='Add Z SQL Tables', constructors = (ZSQLTable.manage_addZSQLTableForm, ZSQLTable.manage_addZSQLTable), icon = 'zsqltable.gif') anything look strange?, anything? TYA -----Original Message----- From: Chris McDonough [mailto:chrism@digicool.com] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:38 PM To: Tim McLaughlin; zope-dev(a)zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ghost product Delete the product from the Control Panel management interface. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim McLaughlin" <tim(a)BCSWebservices.net> To: <zope-dev(a)zope.org> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] ghost product > In fact (to clarify my preceding problem), when I removed the product > folder, Zope still shows the product and error after restarting. Am I being > stupid? I must be missing something.... > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > >

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Hacking Splitter.c
by Jason Spisak 04 Jan '01

04 Jan '01

Hello, I have been hard at work implementing version 2.0 of our Zope based CRM software. I need a bit of help figuring out Splitter.c (lib/python/SearchIndex/Splitter.c) I have commented out both the parts that don't index numbers and single letter words. The numbers seem to be indexing fine, but the single letter words are not. :( My goal is to be able to find 'C' and 'C++' in a TextIndex search. Can anyone tell me why '+' doesn't get indexed, and where to change that? 'C' isn't in the Lexicon stop words, and neither is the '+'. Thanks in advance. All my best, Jason Spisak CIO __ ___ ______ __ / // (_)_____/_ __/__ ____/ / ___ _______ __ _ / _ / / __/ -_) / / -_) __/ _ \(_-<_/ __/ _ \/ ' \ /_//_/_/_/ \__/_/ \__/\__/_//_/___(_)__/\___/_/_/_/ 6151 West Century Boulevard Suite 900 Los Angeles, CA 90045 P. 310.665.3444 F. 310.665.3544 Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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Re: [Zope] Lobbying (was: [Zope] html_quote in python methods?)
by Evan Simpson 04 Jan '01

04 Jan '01

From: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> > > Only if you add security declarations to expose functionality from > > xmlrpclib. > > Is that hacky and nasty? :-S In Zope 2.3, you place the following code somewhere that it will get executed at startup (a custom Product's __init__ is the best bet): from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo security = ModuleSecurityInfo('xmlrpclib') security.declarePublic('Server') # or security.setDefaultAccess(1), if you feel lucky. Cheers, Evan @ digicool & 4-am

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