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Favorites
by rishi 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

Hi guys i've got a small prob. I have the ImportExportFavorites util from microsoft. If that util post the bookmarks of an user then it sends with http_user_agent "FAVORITES" and file name "img.fav" Is there a way that zope get this file so I can save it in the ZODB. The source for sending the file is: <A HREF="javascript:window.external.ImportExportFavorites(false,'your server adress')" TITLE="Import Now" ALT="Import Now" ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='Import Now';return true;" ONMOUSEOUT="window.status='';return true;">Import Now</A>

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Do I really understanding caching?
by Andy McKay 25 Sep '00

25 Sep '00

We have been looking at caching in Zope as a way of tweaking performance. Heres an example of what I think happens: - Supposing I have a 1,000 object catalog. If one person changes an catalog aware object, that instance of the catalog will be pulled out of the ZODB and changed. It will then be written to the ZODB. That last copy will stay in the cache for as long as the "Cache Parameters" are set to allow. - If somebody changes another catalog aware object, that will repeat the above process. - However simply accessing the catalog (no changes) will pull the object from the cache. - What would be really nice is if the object only got written to the cache when it is no longer used, that way every time the catalog changed it didnt write to ZODB instead it changed the cached version. Of course that does bring up the recovering from disaster problem. So do I understand it correctly? -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState.

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Zope 2.2.2 bug
by mark＠dimensional.com 24 Sep '00

24 Sep '00

I hope zope-dev is the right list to post this - I'm runining zope 2.2.2 on linux with python 1.5.2 Here's the set-up. I create a python class to act as a base class for a ZClass. I create a folder in Products called bugtest. Create a python class called bugtest. create and __init__.py file to register the base class. Restart Zope, see I have a new product called bugtest. Enter the bugtest product and create a ZClass the has bugtest as a base class. Everything works fine. Edit the python file bugtest.py - type in 'import x' (import something that isn't int the PYTHONPATH). Restart Zope. The bugtest product isn't shown as broken. Open the folder and everything in the folder has the 'product' icon. Try and create a new ZClass anywhere, and it fails. This is a sneaky bug because nowhere does zope tell you where or what the problem is, and it has the side-effect that you can't create a new ZClass. Could someone confirm this?

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Membership and Local Roles
by Michael Bernstein 23 Sep '00

23 Sep '00

I posted this to the PTK list on Friday, but didn't get any responses over the weekend, so I'm reposting here. I feel that a barrier to Loginmanager and Membership becoming more generally usable for site builders is it's current lack of support for local roles. Specifically, members do not show up in the local roles screen (manage_listLocalRoles) user list. Through the magic of grep and find, I think I've identified the relevant sections of code in Zope that need to be duplicated in Membership (or maybe in LoginManager). First I tracked down what seems to be the relevant section in /lib/python/AccessControl/Role.py, in the section labeled 'Local roles support': def get_valid_userids(self): item=self dict={} while 1: if hasattr(aq_base(item), 'acl_users') and \ hasattr(item.acl_users, 'user_names'): for name in item.acl_users.user_names(): dict[name]=1 if not hasattr(item, 'aq_parent'): break item=item.aq_parent keys=dict.keys() keys.sort() return keys Then I tracked down the user_names attribute to /lib/python/AccessControl/User.py, in the section labeled 'Private UserFolder object interface': def user_names(self): return self.getUserNames() Well, that wasn't very helpful. searching a bit more and I find: def getUserNames(self): """Return a list of usernames""" names=self.data.keys() names.sort() return names Experimenting a bit, I find that a normal user folder object responds to an /acl_users/user_names URL with an error, but does respond to an /acl_users/getUserNames URL with a list of user names. And now I'm stuck. I *think* that LoginManager needs a getUserNames method that cycles through the available User Sources and grabs a list of names from each, concatenating them into one big list to return. I'll settle for some code that has the User Source name hard-wired in, though. However, IANAC (I Am Not A Coder), and I don't know how to do this. If anyone can offer a cut-and-paste set of instructions to add this into LoginManager or Membership, it would be greatly appreciated. If I've missed something obvious or misunderstood the problem, please tell me that too. Thanks, Michael Bernstein.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Do I really understanding caching?
by Andy McKay 23 Sep '00

23 Sep '00

Thanks > (I'm only talking about text indices here.) > > Note that the Catalog is actually a tree of database/cache objects. > There are a series of buckets and sub-buckets that end in a word > object. The buckets, sub-buckets, and words are all database objects > and can be cached/updated separately. > > Put another way, every branch and leaf on the tree in a Catalog is a > separately stored and cached database object. > > The 1,027 words in the document (and the branches on the tree to get to > them) that was updated would obey the cache parameters. Hmm, that is a significant optimization, and one I was not aware of. > What problem are you trying to solve -- response time, memory usage, > disk usage? All of the above :)

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ZODB optimization
by morten＠esol.no 22 Sep '00

22 Sep '00

I'm wondering, is the ZODB easily 'fragmented' or .. un-optimized ? If so, are there any tools/functions that will 'unfragment' / optimize it? Does the 'pack database' in the Administration menu do this? If so, it could be a Good Thing (tm) to have separate optimize and packing (history deletion etc.) functions (buttons). Is there any way to make an object not keep history on itself or on contained objects ? -Morten

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ftp-acces to Zope: "rename" command
by Klaus Woelfel 22 Sep '00

22 Sep '00

Hi, I have the following problem: One great thing in Zope is the ftp acces to objects. And in combination with the ftp-abilities of kfm and kwrite in kde1.2 it worked very nice for me to edit DTML-Documents in kwrite. But now in kde2 the the i/o System of kde (kio) has changed and when I edit an DTML-Document with kwrite in kde2 and want to save, kwrite (in fact kio) first creates a new file named file_name.part and then renames it to file_name. No the problem is that the ftp part of ZServer doesn't support to rename an object. When I type "rename file file_old" in the linux terminal-ftp client, he says: "500 'RNFR': command not understood." So I'm asking if anybody knows how to solve this problem, or if there is anybody who can tell me where in the source of Zope I have to look to implement the "rename" command in ZServer. On the IRC Zope-cannel they told me that this wouldn't be too difficult. But maybe it is already implemented an I only have to activate it... Bye, Klaus

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL Methods from Python?
by Jim Fulton 22 Sep '00

22 Sep '00

"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > > At 12:49 PM 9/22/00 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > >"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > >> > >> Ty and I have put together a Stored Procedure method for Sybase; it > >> requires a minor patch to ZSybaseDA, however, to allow for the status code > >> return. I'm not sure how useful it would be to anyone else, though, since > >> all we ever do with stored procedures is process the return value, and > >> ignore any actual SELECT results. > > > >I think it would be useful. Can you get multiple return values? > > > > By "return value", I mean the "return status" code which is an integer > returned by the Sybase "RETURN" statement. Sybase also can generate its > own, negative-numbered return statuses, which indicate a Sybase error. > These error codes can include ones that mean the current transaction has > already been aborted. > > Apart from the "return value", a Sybase stored procedure can execute > SELECT's which result in rows being returned. We have never used this > capability, so I'm not sure what would need to be done for it to be > practical. We ordinarily use stored procedures only to perform inserts, > updates, deletes, and other things that only need a integer result if > anything. (Eg: get next counter value to assign an object identifier.) Ah, too bad. Can Sybase *only* return values through selected rows? Oracle's stored procedures are much more like traditional procedures and therefore extremely useful even when no results are returned. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Python Powered! Technical Director (888) 344-4332 http://www.python.org Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.zope.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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ZSQL Methods from Python?
by Monty Taylor 22 Sep '00

22 Sep '00

Hey, is there any doco about using ZSQL Methods from Python Products? Also, does anyone know of any work done to extend ZSQL Methods to allow stored-procedure calls? I know I can do an Oracle Procedure call from DCOracle that returns a cursor, but I'd love to combine that with the caching/pluggable brains of ZSQL Methods. Is there anything out there on this or am I going to have to roll my own? Thanks, Monty

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Re: [Zope-ZEO] Advice
by Andy McKay 22 Sep '00

22 Sep '00

> > One of the reasons our group is moving away from Zope is that it has > > very poor support (if any) for the development/staging/live model. We > > like this model. We think it's a good thing. But sync'ing code across > > multiple Zope installations is a royal PITA. > > I'd like to hear more about the problems you've had and how > you overcome them in a different system. > > > And no, versions are *not* the answer. > > Well, they are a pretty good answer for lots of applications > in my experience. Version can work for small changes, but they certainly dont for large numbers of changes across lots of objects. And since the catalog is a key component for our site, its a real problem.

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