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Some thoughts on KGS
by Jim Fulton 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

I think the KGS should define 3 categories of packages: - ZTK packages These are packages we maintain and expect people to build things on. - Test packages These are packages that build on the ZTK. These are used to test the ZTK packages, but aren't part of the ZTK. - dependencies of ZTK packages or test packages. Note that the ZTK should probably avoid non-third-party dependencies that are not part of the ZTK. There are some fuzzy cases, like ZODB and ZConfig. I propose that any test infrastructure we come up with needs to handle these 3 cases. In any cases, the test infrastructure needs to fix version for all of the categories of packages and there needs to be a formal process (uh, like tests passing :) for updating the configuration. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation

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Zope Tests: 3 OK, 5 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Jul 17 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sat Jul 18 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:50:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012082.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:52:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012083.html Subject: FAILED (failures=7) : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:54:01 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012084.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:56:01 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012085.html Subject: FAILED (failures=7) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:58:01 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012086.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:44:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012079.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:46:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012080.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jul 17 20:48:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-July/012081.html

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Zope Tests: 3 OK, 4 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Aug 7 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sat Aug 8 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 7 messages: 7 from Zope Tests. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 20:59:15 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012248.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 21:03:16 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012250.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 21:05:16 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012251.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 21:07:16 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012252.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 20:53:15 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012246.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 20:57:15 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012247.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Aug 7 21:01:16 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012249.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] Simplifying dependencies of zope.app.publisher
by Jim Fulton 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

2009/8/7 Fabio Tranchitella <fabio(a)tranchitella.it>: > Hey Jim, > > you picked up an old e-mail of mine (it is from 8th of July)! :) I know, but I thought my response was most applicable to the original. :) > > * 2009-08-07 17:13, Jim Fulton wrote: >> For now, make these registrations conditional on the installation of >> zope.container and then get rid of the dependency. > > I like your approach about optional dependencies, and IIRC I already > proposed something like this on the list. Cool. :) > I think although that it is not safe to make any change until we get a > clean, tested, explicit and globally accepted KGS for the ZTK. This is my > top priority right now. :) That makes me happy. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton

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Re: [Zope-dev] List of packages in the ZTK
by Tres Seaver 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > Hello, > > * 2009-08-07 05:28, Fred Drake wrote: >>> In particular, I would exclude any package in the zope.app.* >>> namespace which is not also used by either grok or Zope2. >> As would I. > > Fine, I plan to work on this today, building the dependency graph of zope2, > zope3 and grok and cherry picking the right list. > > Do you know how am I supposed to get the list of packages used by Zope2? http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/trunk/versions.cfg?view=markup Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver(a)palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKfESe+gerLs4ltQ4RAtJMAJ4/ySCHQhc7mQIgyZn02JQtehJ1sgCfSGzD lepZKaTOiP7/ILAz8gvX8E8= =9gfR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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XMLRPC support (was Re: Optional integration need not introduce dependencies)
by Jim Fulton 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Roger Ineichen<dev(a)projekt01.ch> wrote: ... > I think XML-RPC just belongs to an own package e.g. zope.xmlrpc. It doesn't > make sense to have XML-RPC in a package other then an own. Agreed, although moving it out would introduce a backward incompatibility. Maybe there's a way to finesse this or maybe we just bump the major version # of zope.publisher. BTW, I don't think the approach we took (I helped :) for XMLRPC turned out well. Given ajax and json, I don't really care about xmlrpc any more, but if I did, I'd want to take a much lighter weight and more localized approach. > If we move the > XML-RPC part out of other packages, then we have the question should the > zope.xmlrpc package depend on IContainer? Probably not and the new > zope.xmlrpc > package should use your suggested conditional configuration. Yup > Such an own zope.xmlrpc package whould depend on the publisher as much as > the XML-RPC implementation does. This allows to use a custom XML-RPC > implementation based on something else then the publisher concept. > (custom xmlrpc package) > > Does this make sense? Yes, except that I don't really care about xmlrpc and If I did, I'd take a different approach. Jim -- Jim Fulton

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Zope Tests: 3 OK, 4 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Aug 6 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Aug 7 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 7 messages: 7 from Zope Tests. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 20:59:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012241.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 21:03:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012243.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 21:05:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012244.html Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 21:07:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012245.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 20:53:26 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012239.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 20:57:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012240.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Aug 6 21:01:27 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-August/012242.html

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Why does zope.tales explicitly pin versions in buildout.cfg?
by Fabio Tranchitella 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Hello, this is the buildout.cfg in zope.tales: [buildout] develop = . parts = test versions = versions [test] recipe = zc.recipe.testrunner eggs = zope.tales [versions] zope.traversing = 3.4.0 zope.app.publisher = 3.4. Is there a specific reason for having the version pinning? Automatic testing of zope.tales obviously fails using the KGS, because zope.traversing there is 3.7.1. Is it possible to remove the "versions" stanza? Thanks, Fabio

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zope.index 3.5.2 broken
by Andreas Jung 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Hi, the doctests for zope.index 3.5.2 - as used in Zope 2.12 - fail badly: File "/home/ajung/.buildout/eggs/zope.index-3.5.2-py2.6-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/index/text/tests/../textindex.txt", line 143, in textindex.txt Failed example: [(k, "%.4f" % v) for (k, v) in index2.apply("Zorro").items()] == result Expected: True Got: False Thoughts? Andreas

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Breaking the dep cycle between zope.{container, filerepresentation}
by Fabio Tranchitella 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Hello, I would like to break the dep cycle between zope.container and zope.filerepresentation. I already prepared the two patches (attached to this e-mail), but I'm not confident enough with the zope3 repository to check in them without asking for comments. Is this the right way to break the dependency? I think nobody really uses zope.filerepresentation, so transforming it into a dummy package which just imports things from zope.container.interface is ok. Thanks in advance, Fabio

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