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RE: Re: [Zope-dev] Where can I find the Zope XML DTD ?
by Antonio De Marinis 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

> ------- Ursprungligt meddelande ------- > > Från: Dieter Maurer <dieter(a)handshake.de> > Datum: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:35:51 +0100 > >Antonio De Marinis writes: > > ... > > In Zope there is an XML-export as everybody knows. My question is: does anybody know if there is a DTD for the Zope produced XML and where I can find it? >I think, there is no DTD. >As you know, XML document do not need to follow a DTD. > yes I know ... but it is always good to have one :-) > > Why I ask for it? > > If I have a DTD I could use Zope objects exported in XML and use them in external XML processing tools with validation. A practical examples is to use them together with XML enabled translations tools like Trados TagEditor. Then you can just export a Zope object, send it for translation to the translators and get back all the translated objects ready to import into Zope via ZMI (no more time on boring copy and paste). >I do not think this is workable. > > The XML exported only describes the structure of the document. > The semantics is covered only very implicitly. > > I doubt very much that you find an easy syntactic criterion (based > on XML structure) that distinguishes between text to be translated > (like "title") and text that must not be touched (like "id"). > I see the issue. But it would be good to have such semantics in the produced XML, so you can use it further ... otherwise I don't know what the XML produced by Zope should be used for ... I haven't find any use of it except of this idea to send it to translation companies. >Look at the internationalization tools "localizer", "ZBabel" >and the internationalization support in ZPT. >I think these are better approaches. > I've looked into them and they are good approaches but they only try to solve the developer/programmer I18N issues and NOT those issues regarding "how to get all that traslated text into Zope from externals translators". That is my issue. I would like to export Zope objects localizible text (title, abstract, error messages, pieces of HTML, metadata etc ... ) and send this information to the translators who use XML-enabled tools in order to translate text into several languages. (An emerging XML standard for translation is XLIFF, http://www.xliff.org.) Often we are not able to let translators access the ZMI and input the translations directly into Zope, they are not familiar with Zope and they have to use the proffesional translation tools with all the features included (spell checking, thesaurus, work-flow, translation memories etc...). It would be a nightmare to insert all the translations into Zope via the ZMI and Localizer. It works ok for a small size of text. But for the amount of objects we have to translate it would take ages, and why retype the whole text from the translators. Localizer and ZBabel do not solve this problem. They solve the programmer issues. These tools haven't really recognized the translator role and how they work. They are not Zopatists and not any kind of Zope editor, they work in other companies and use their own tools and XML standards. If we want Zope to be a real Multilingual Content Management Tool then it would be a good choice to adabt Zope to the standards used in these translations tools. > >Dieter > Thanks for your help and interests in this discussion. Antonio > _____________________________________________________________ Här börjar internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis internet på http://www.spray.se Träffa folk från hela Sverige på ett och samma ställe - http://chat.spray.se/

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z3 sprint at pycon?
by Paul Winkler 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

Is anybody planning a zope 3 sprint at pycon? would be a good excuse for me to dive into z3 :) -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Look! Up in the sky! It's COMPLEX ICE WITICIST! (courtesy of isometric.spaceninja.com)

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Where can I find the Zope XML DTD ?
by Antonio De Marinis 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I've search in other lists without any success. In Zope there is an XML-export as everybody knows. My question is: does anybody know if there is a DTD for the Zope produced XML and where I can find it? Why I ask for it? If I have a DTD I could use Zope objects exported in XML and use them in external XML processing tools with validation. A practical examples is to use them together with XML enabled translations tools like Trados TagEditor. Then you can just export a Zope object, send it for translation to the translators and get back all the translated objects ready to import into Zope via ZMI (no more time on boring copy and paste). I hope there is a DTD, I could not find it. Many thanks. Antonio _____________________________________________________________ Här börjar internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis internet på http://www.spray.se Träffa folk från hela Sverige på ett och samma ställe - http://chat.spray.se/

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Collector 697 should be critical!!!
by Maik Jablonski 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Hi, http://collector.zope.org/Zope/697 should be set to critical, because it results in loosing essential data. Case: We store much of our "Keywords" etc. in multiple-selects. Everytime a user edits and saves such a multiple-select, all items with NON-Ascii-characters [german umlaute for example] won't be shown as selected cause of the bug. So the next "Save Changes" will loose all this items. I don't know where's the best place to fix this issue, but it need to be fixed as soon as possible... Cheers, Maik

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Bug in ExternalMethods?
by Tim Hicks 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

I think I've found a bug in ExternalMethod, but I don't know if it's already been fixed or not. Basically, the call signature of ExternalMethods seems to get mixed up sometimes. I'm running Zope 2.5.1 on Linux. Here's a small demonstration of the bug: --test.py-- def test(self, a_string, an_int, a_named_arg=1): """bug provoking?""" template = """a_string = %s; type(a_string) -> %s\n an_int = %s; type(an_int) -> %s\n a_named_arg = %s; type(a_named_arg) -> %s""" return template % (a_string, type(a_string), an_int, type(an_int), a_named_arg, type(a_named_arg)) ---- --Script (Python)-- return container.test('tim', 10, a_named_arg=(1,1)) return container.test('tim', 10, (1,1)) ---- You can see the dodgy behaviour by switching between the two test() calls in the Script (Python). tim

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Allowing only specific meta_types to be addable to my product
by Stacy Roberts Ladnier 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

I have created a Product made up of hundreds of classes. Each class has restrictions that should only allow a certain few meta_types to be added. I have tried every method I can find to do this, without luck. I know you can restrict this in a ZClass by defining the addable subobjects. However, I cannot determine how to do this in the python class. Only those meta_types allowed should appear in the Add Drop down list. Thanks in advance, Stacy

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validate method
by Mario Bianchi 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Hello everybody, I want to write a custom UserFolder to allow for a certain type of authentication/validation. One straightforward way to do so is to inherit from UserFolder and override the validate method. Nevertheless, the validate method is documented in the code as PRIVATE object interface, which means -I guess- that is not part of the object API and no guarantee of compatibility with newer version is given. I noticed there's a securityManager.validate method that takes the same parameters as the UserFolder.validate one, but the former is part of the Zope API: should I use that one to implement validation for my user folder? If this is the case, how can I manage extending class UserFolder and using SecurityManager.validate as well? Thanks, Mario. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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cvs.zope.org upgraded
by Martijn Pieters 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

cvs.zope.org now runs on ViewCVS 0.9.2, and I enabled CVSGraph (watch out, big images!) and database query support. Head on over and play around with the new look and features! -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ ---------------------------------------------

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cvs.zope.org broken
by Godefroid Chapelle 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Hi all, Does someone knows what happens with cvs.zope.org which is currently broken ? Thanks -- Godefroid Chapelle BubbleNet sprl rue Victor Horta, 18 / 202 1348 Louvain-la-Neuve Belgium Tel + 32 (10) 459901 Mob + 32 (477) 363942 TVA 467 093 008 RC Niv 49849

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CRITICAL!!!! CVS: Zope/lib/python/OFS - Image.py:1.141.4.3
by Maik Jablonski 17 Dec '02

17 Dec '02

Hi, BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS CHECK-IN FROM YESTERDAY: I've updated my ZOPE and now all Images are broken!!! ZOPE lives behind a SQUID. I think that RESPONSE.setBase(None) is NOT a good idea at all!!! Commenting this out and all works as expected... Maybe someone else can check this issue... -mj Update of /cvs-repository/Zope/lib/python/OFS In directory cvs.zope.org:/tmp/cvs-serv2993/lib/python/OFS Modified Files: Tag: Zope-2_6-branch Image.py Log Message: Check in for #342 on behalf of slinkp === Zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py 1.141.4.2 => 1.141.4.3 === --- Zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py:1.141.4.2 Wed Nov 13 14:18:41 2002 +++ Zope/lib/python/OFS/Image.py Mon Dec 16 19:40:23 2002 @@ -133,6 +133,7 @@ Returns the contents of the file or image. Also, sets the Content-Type HTTP header to the objects content type. """ + # HTTP If-Modified-Since header handling. header=REQUEST.get_header('If-Modified-Since', None) if header is not None: @@ -374,7 +375,9 @@ self.ZCacheable_set(None) data=self.data - if type(data) is type(''): return data + if type(data) is type(''): + RESPONSE.setBase(None) + return data while data is not None: RESPONSE.write(data.data) _______________________________________________ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins

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