January 2001 - Zope-Dev

RE: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
by Brian Lloyd 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

> I think the new UI for 2.3 is great improvement over 2.2. > > I'm already finding the sorted tables of folder contents useful, and > having the add new items select at the top saves time. > > > However, I do not like the 3-frame interface. I feel that the top frame > is wasted space. The Zope logo and "Logged in as username | Logout" > could as easily go at the bottom of the tree-view frame on the left. > This would leave extra screen space for doing work. > > I realize that I can make the frame smaller by dragging it with my > mouse. I do a lot of TTW development, and I think I might find that > cumbersome, so I guess I'll be hacking the top frame out of my > management interface :-) Are you guys working on 486's with 13in. monitors at 640x480 or something? :^) Seriously - Zope has been criticized for a very long time for being, ah, aesthetically challenged :) It is a valid criticism - we have been (and quite honestly, will continue to be) more concerned with function over form. But is it really so bad to make a 32 pixel-high concession to a small pittance of branding? I know that "branding" isn't important for those who are already believers, but Zope has grown enough that its reasonable to put some effort into "first impression factor". It doesn't help the community for reviews to come out that waste words on the visual appeal shortcomings of the UI and totally miss the point. A better first impression is a Good Thing. The top frame is also a place where we might want to put more "placeless" operations like logout in the future. You can only jam so much into the tree pane without it looking very much like way too much is being jammed into the tree pane :) FWIW, one of the things we may put there later is a way to do "browser preferences" via cookies to control things like default text area sizes. That could also have a "hide top frame" option for those who really can't spare the 32px. :^) Brian Lloyd brian(a)digicool.com Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations www.digicool.com

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New UI for 2.3
by Steve Alexander 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

I think the new UI for 2.3 is great improvement over 2.2. I'm already finding the sorted tables of folder contents useful, and having the add new items select at the top saves time. However, I do not like the 3-frame interface. I feel that the top frame is wasted space. The Zope logo and "Logged in as username | Logout" could as easily go at the bottom of the tree-view frame on the left. This would leave extra screen space for doing work. I realize that I can make the frame smaller by dragging it with my mouse. I do a lot of TTW development, and I think I might find that cumbersome, so I guess I'll be hacking the top frame out of my management interface :-) I also much prefer blue to black as a background colour for the tabs and the "Root Folder" link. The black seems a bit overbearing. -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited http://www.cat-box.net

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Computed Attributes (was: [Zope-dev] How do I create a folder with subfolders, docs etc?)
by Dieter Maurer 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Espen Sorbye Frederiksen writes: > I have truble with the permissions (get the message: "Authorization > failed. Retry?") when I do the following: > > <dtml-call expr="existingFolder.manage_addFolder(folder_id)"> > <dtml-call expr="existingFolder._[folder_id].manage_addFolder('subFolder')"> An FAQ! Anwser found via a search in the searchable list archive (though it would be a bit difficult). Anwser: An attribute name must never start with "_". Though, it has not been your intend, "_" is used as an attribute name in "existingFolder._". What you should use instead is: _.getattr(existingFolder,folder_id).manage_addFolder('subFolder') Keep in mind for the future, that the right operand of "." is always a name and never an expression! When you want to use an expression, you will use "getattr" instead. Dieter

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ANNOUNCE: CookieCrumbler product
by Shane Hathaway 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

CookieCrumbler lets you set up cookie-based authentication even when your user folder does not support cookies. Zope 2.2.x or above is required since this product depends on a new publisher traversal hook. Enjoy! http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/CookieCrumbler Shane

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ZPatterns Example (ToDoProduct import)
by Kim Friesen 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi, I am trying to import ToDoProduct.zexp as part of the ZPatternsExample on Zope Version (unreleased version) -- Latest CVS Python Version 2.0 (#4, Nov 26 2000, 23:57:25) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] System Platform linux2 and I get the following error: The object ToDoProduct does not support this operation [Powered by Zope] Traceback (innermost last): File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Traversable) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_importObject) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: manage_importObject) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 544, in manage_importObject (Object: Traversable) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 419, in _verifyObjectPaste (Object: Traversable) Copy Error: (see above) Has anyone had the same error ? Thanks, Kim Friesen Oracle8 Certified Professional DBA Friesen Development Inc. kfriesen(a)netcom.ca

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Zope-2.3a2 and Loginmanager
by Ulrich Eck 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

hi out there, i just setup a box with Zope-2.3a2 and Loginmanager. didn't work because of Changes in AccessControl.User: - Super doesn't exist anymore (is emergency_user the replacement ??) - Zope-2.3a2 installs itself with a file "inituser" as access-file, AccessControl.User.py refers to "access" in line 372: info = readUserAccessFile('access') <--- is this a bug ??? - it seems, that there is now some work done in the User.py which was "hacked" in LoginManager.py (line 130-150) anyone any ideas about that ??? would like to test my work on Zope-2.3a2 but need the Loginmanger thanks in advance jac-e

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Using Java (or JDBC) with Zope/Python
by Dario Lopez-K�sten 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hello! I am exploring the possibilities of using JDBC with Zope, as well as investigating whether JavaBeans could be used from Zope/Python. It seems that most Python/Java stuff use the JPython/Jython approach and, IIRC, Zope and Jython/JPython don't mix very well/at all. Any pointers, references, comments, etc accepted. Sincerely, /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kästen Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario(a)ita.chalmers.se ICQ will yield no hits IT Systems & Services

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How do I create a folder with subfolders, docs etc? (fwd)
by Espen Sorbye Frederiksen 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

I have truble with the permissions (get the message: "Authorization failed. Retry?") when I do the following: <dtml-call expr="existingFolder.manage_addFolder(folder_id)"> <dtml-call expr="existingFolder._[folder_id].manage_addFolder('subFolder')"> I am logged in as a manager. Your example under does work, though.. > > Try this: > > <dtml-call expr="manage_addFolder(folder_id)"> > <dtml-call expr="_[folder_id].manage_addFolder('subFolder')"> > > ===== > | Casey Duncan > | Kaivo, Inc. > | cduncan(a)kaivo.com > `-----------------> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )

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Re: [Zope-dev] How do I create a folder with subfolders, docs etc?
by Casey Duncan 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

--- Espen Sorbye Frederiksen <ceeesf(a)cee.hw.ac.uk> wrote: > Thank you for your reply. I relised that my example > was not quite what I > ment. What if newfolder is a variable taking a > random string value. How > can I emediatly after creating the folder, with the > variable > newfolder id, create a subfolder within the one I > just made? > > My sample code should look like this: > > <dtml-call expr="manage_addFolder(id="newfolder")"> > > <dtml-call > > expr="newfolder.manage_addFolder(id="anotherfolder")"> > > If you have any further suggestions I would be > grateful, > > Espen > Try this: <dtml-call expr="manage_addFolder(folder_id)"> <dtml-call expr="_[folder_id].manage_addFolder('subFolder')"> ===== | Casey Duncan | Kaivo, Inc. | cduncan(a)kaivo.com `-----------------> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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How to delete ZServer's zombie channel?
by J�lio Dinis Silva 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi, some time I see in my /Control_Panel/DebugInfo/manage, channels opened longer than 48378.26s. How can I kill/delete a specific channel? Thanx, Júlio Dinis Silva _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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