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Re: [Zope-dev] RAM Cache Manager "next_cleanup" not working?
by J�lio Dinis Silva 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

>No, it's not supposed to work. :-) Create another DTML method and >associate it with the same cache manager, then view the new DTML >method.This will cause ZCache_set() to be called and *then* the cache >will be cleaned up. > >What you really want to use is the max_age parameter. (It might only >be in Zope 2.4.x.) You want the cache of the DTML method to expire >after a certain time period, right? Use max_age. When the cache >retrieves an expired cache entry, the entry will be removed and later >replaced. > >Each parameter serves a very distinct purpose. The max_age parameter >is meant for cache duration control. The threshold parameter is >meant for balancing memory use with cache size. And the cleanup >interval is to balance memory management with cache performance >overhead. Does that make sense? Ok now THAT makes sense. Because I was thinking that the cleanup interval was used to do what max_age is going to do when it arrives. For now we've hacked our RAM Cache Manager to put cleanup interval to work how we wanted untill we upgrade do 2.4.x. Thanx again for your replies Shane, Best Regards, Julio Dinis Silva _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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entering into the webdav interoperability test?
by alan runyan 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

is ZOPE making an appearance at the webdav interoperability testing ? Its July 19th and July 20th? it would be really cool to see how 'dav' compliant ZOPE is. here is info: http://webdav.org/other/interop.html ~runyaga

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Three new proposals in the fishbowl: Cookieless Zope, SMB support, and SOAP support
by Joachim Werner 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Hi! I've just created another three fishbowl proposals: - http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/CookielessZope This one is a "nice-to-have" but rather painsome clean-up issue. Zope still uses cookies quite extensively. This should be an option that can be switched off. - http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/SOAPSupport This one is obvious. There ws so much talkin recently about Zope actually being capable of SOAP already. Maybe SOAP support should finally be implemented in reality ... ;-) - http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/SMBSupport This one is a crazy idea. I have no clue whether an SMB server component for Zope would be hard to build. But it would be a very useful thing to have around ... Joachim

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New Proposal: Better ZClasses
by Joachim Werner 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/BetterZClasses Hi! I've created a proposal for re-implementing ZClass functionality by creating an over-the-web code creation framework for Zope. Please comment on it ... The proposal is still quite vague regarding the technology used. I am still open fro suggestions on how to accomplish the task of getting "BetterZClasses" ... Cheers Joachim

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OpenFlow workflow engine
by Vincenzo Di Somma 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

Icube is pleased to announce the availability of OpenFlow http://www.zope.org/Members/vds/OpenFlow, the open source workflow engine. Openflow includes the ability to specify multiple maps of activities, support for conditional splits and parallel executions. Each activity can be implemented using every Zope object. A web based management interface completes the engine itself. -- Vincenzo Di Somma - Responsabile Ricerca e Sviluppo - Icube S.r.l. Sede: Via Ridolfi 15 - 56124 Pisa (PI), Italia E-mail: e.disomma(a)icube.it WWW: www.icube.it Tel: (+39) 050 97 02 07 Fax: (+39) 050 31 36 588

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Re: [Zope-dev] RAM Cache Manager "next_cleanup" not working?
by J�lio Dinis Silva 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

>"Júlio Dinis Silva" wrote: > > Looking into >lib.python.Products.standardCacheManagers.RAMCacheManager.py > > > > I found something it looks like a problem in the code and > > I came to a solution which solves the problem in subject althougt > > I dont know If this is a safe solution, It works for me. > >The theory behind the current solution is that a cache cleanup operation >occurs: > >- only if a certain amount of time has passed since the last cleanup, >and > >- only when adding a new entry to the cache. > >Then, even during a cleanup, nothing is removed if the number of entries >is below the threshold. > >The idea is that cache hits should be as fast as possible. Cleanup >occurs on cache misses instead. The only side effect is that watching >for entries to get cleaned up on the stats page won't act as you might >expect. The number of entries will *always* go above the threshold. >The entries will be cleaned up next time there's a cache *miss*. > >This is *not* a bug. But maybe we could "fix" it by executing a cleanup >every time users look at the stats page. :-) > >Another idea is for you to create your own cache manager. In fact we >(Digital Creations) encourage the creation of alternate cache managers. Hi Shane, Thanx for your reply. I understand the theory you explained to me. But even that theory being correct and now I know better how the RAM Cache Manager works, and even thinking of doing another cache manager, another point of my post is that something is not working: I'm testing this, caching a page that only creates one entry in the cache, because there is nothing different with that page to create multiple cache entries (Query_string vars, or other stuff), i.e, the "cache keys" of this page is always the same it doesnt receive any parameters to create a different entry. And taking this in mind even with a threshold of 0 (zero) the next_cleanup value is never tested in the code. So this is what I think is somehow wrong with the code: >The theory behind the current solution is that a cache cleanup operation >occurs: > >- only if a certain amount of time has passed since the last cleanup, >and > >- only when adding a new entry to the cache. Soo what I was not able to reproduce with the current RAM Cache Manager code is the "certain amount of time has passed" condition. Because of that there was my solution of returning "default" in the ZCache_get code which I agree with you it slows cache hits, but was the only way I got to put the interval_period to work. If you could be so kind and do a little test: -create a dtml method with only this line of code: <dtml-var ZopeTime> -create a Ram cache manager, define 0 (zero) for the threshold and 5 seconds for the cleanup interval, and associate your dtml method with this Ram Cache manager. -Then go to a browser and request several times the dtml method and you will see that the zopetime returned by the dtml method never changes, even after 5 seconds. Isnt this suppose to work? I mean, there is a threshold of 0 (zero) so when the 5 seconds pass the call to cleanup should cleanup this entry because there will be 1 entry and the threshold is 0 (zero). Thanx again for your reply, Best Regards, Julio Dinis Silva _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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PAM authentication module for Zope
by Joachim Werner 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Hi! I am looking for a Zope user folder that connects to a Linux PAM (Pluggable Authentication Module) for authentication. Has anybody done such a thing yet? There is a "PyPAM" module (http://www.pangalactic.org/PyPAM/) so the task should not be too hard to accomplish. But I'd like to know first if anybody out there has running code already ... Joachim

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RE: [Zope-dev] Transparent Folders and Ram Cache Managers
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Forgot something: more specfically, Zope 2.3.3 with TF 0.3.2... Had same problem with Zope 2.3.2 and TF 0.3 ... -----Original Message----- From: sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com [mailto:sean.upton@uniontrib.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:10 PM To: zope-dev(a)zope.org Subject: [Zope-dev] Transparent Folders and Ram Cache Managers Has anyone tried using a RAM cache manager in a folder with a Transparent Folder-based subfolder? I can't seem to get it to work; clicking locate on the associate tab brings up an error; I'm curious if this is a known issue/incompatibility... traceback below: Error Type: InError Error Value: Strings are not allowed as input to the in tag. -------------------- Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: CacheManager) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: ZCacheManager_locate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: ZCacheManager_locate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/OFS/Cache.py, line 568, in ZCacheManager_locate (Object: CacheManager) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 324, in __call__ (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 354, in _bindAndExec (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 236, in _exec (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 663, in renderwob (Object: results) InError: (see above) Sean ========================= Sean Upton Senior Programmer/Analyst SignOnSanDiego.com The San Diego Union-Tribune 619.718.5241 sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com ========================= _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )

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Transparent Folders and Ram Cache Managers
by sean.upton＠uniontrib.com 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Has anyone tried using a RAM cache manager in a folder with a Transparent Folder-based subfolder? I can't seem to get it to work; clicking locate on the associate tab brings up an error; I'm curious if this is a known issue/incompatibility... traceback below: Error Type: InError Error Value: Strings are not allowed as input to the in tag. -------------------- Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: CacheManager) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: ZCacheManager_locate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: ZCacheManager_locate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/OFS/Cache.py, line 568, in ZCacheManager_locate (Object: CacheManager) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 324, in __call__ (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 354, in _bindAndExec (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 236, in _exec (Object: ZCacheManager_associate) File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 663, in renderwob (Object: results) InError: (see above) Sean ========================= Sean Upton Senior Programmer/Analyst SignOnSanDiego.com The San Diego Union-Tribune 619.718.5241 sean.upton(a)uniontrib.com =========================

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bizarre __call__ problem
by seb bacon 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

A strange one. In my product, which is a folderish content type, I have two functions with identical function bodies and signatures; the only difference is the function name. I try calling them like this from dtml: <dtml-with "getPageByDepth()"> / <dtml-with "boogaLoo()"> >From the first I get an AttributeError, from the other I do not: < snip > File /usr/local/Zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 334, in eval (Object: getPageByDepth()) (Info: getPageByDepth) File <string>, line 0, in ? AttributeError: __call__ Any ideas? The code is at the bottom of this mail. For now I can just use 'boogaLoo', but it's making me have bad dreams. cheers, seb -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= security.declarePublic('boogaLoo') def boogaLoo(self, depth=0): '''blah''' depth = int(depth) if self.getDepth() < depth: return self else: root = self.getSite().getPhysicalPath() r_pos = len(root) my_path = self.aq_inner.getPhysicalPath()[r_pos:] page = my_path[:depth] return self.unrestrictedTraverse(root + page) security.declarePublic('getPageByDepth') def getPageByDepth(self, depth=0): '''blah''' depth = int(depth) if self.getDepth() < depth: return self else: root = self.getSite().getPhysicalPath() r_pos = len(root) my_path = self.aq_inner.getPhysicalPath()[r_pos:] page = my_path[:depth] return self.unrestrictedTraverse(root + page)

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