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CMF 1.1
by Priya Ramkumar 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hi I have installed Zope2.3.3 with the INSTANCE_HOME & SOFTWARE_HOME structure. The $INSTANCE_HOME has the directories var & Products and also the files - zctl.py, access, custom_zodb.py and zope.conf. I followed the "Advanced Production Site Setup with ZEO." by D Shaw. I have now installed CMF1.1 in the "Products" directory under $INSTANCE_HOME. When I go the management interface, I am not able to see the CMF under Products in the Control Panel. I start Zope from $INSTANCE_HOME by typing - "./zctl.py start". Can anyone please tell me how I can solve this? Zope version I am using is - 2.3.3 and python version is 1.5.2. Thanks Priya

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Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?)
by Giovanni Maruzzelli 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hello Zopistas, we are developing a Zope 2.3.3 (py 1.5.2) application that will add, index and reindex some tens of thousands objects (Zclass that are DTMLDocument on steroids) on some twenty properties each day, while the absolute number of objects cataloged keeps growing (think at content management for a big portal, where each day lots of content are added and modified and all the old content remains as a searchable archive and as material to recycle in the future). This seems for some aspects a task similar to what Erik Enge impacted couple a weeks ago. We first derived from CatalogAware, then switched to manage ourselves the cataloging - uncataloging - recataloging. The ZODB still bloat at a too much fast pace. ***Maybe there's something obvious we missed***, but when you have some 4thousands object in the catalog, if you add and catalog one more object the ZODB grows circa a couple of megabyte (while the object is some 1 k of text, and some twelve boolean and datetime and strings properties). If we pack the ZODB, Data.fs returns to an almost normal size (so the bloat are made by the transactions as tranalyzer.py confirms). Any hints on how to manage something like? We use both textindexes, fieldindexes, and keywordsindexes (textindex on string properties, fieldindexes on boolean and datetime, keywordindex on strings). Maybe one kind of indexes is to be avoided? Erik, any toughts? We are almost decided to switch to berkeleydb storage (the Minimal one) to get rid of the bloating, we are testing with it, but it seems to be discontinued because of a lack of requests. Any light on it? Is it production grade? -giovanni

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RestrictedDTML w/isPrincipiaFolderish: error with CMF 1.1 and Zope 2.4.0
by Joseph Wayne Norton 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hello. I'm getting the following error message (see below) while accessing the contents of a folder (http://localhost/cmf/Portal/FolderD/folder_contents) underneath a CMF site instance. I was testing Python 2.1, and CMF 1.1/Zope 2.4.0 (latest cvs checked out versions). I do not have any problem while using CMF 1.1 (latest cvs version), Zope 2.3.3, and Python 1.52. The starting ZODB database is identical in both cases. However, I'm not using the ZDebug product with Zope 2.4.0. I'm just not sure if the issue is due to: - CMF - isPrincipiaFolderish being used in the folder_contents skin or - Zope 2.4.0 - RestrictedDTML bug ? or - Zope 2.3.3 security mechanism bug ? or - bug in my acl setup I feel the following priviledges should be sufficient ... Access contents information List folder contents View to access isPrincipiaFolderish. Any pointers ??? - joe n. <TD WIDTH="90%"> <H2>Site Error</H2> <P>An error was encountered while publishing this resource. </P> <P><STRONG>Unauthorized</STRONG></P> You are not authorized to access <em>isPrincipiaFolderish</em>. <!-- Traceback (innermost last): File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: RestrictedDTML) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: RestrictedDTML) File /opt/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/Products/CMFCore/FSDTMLMethod.py, line 182, in __call__ (Object: RestrictedDTML) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 544, in __call__ (Object: RestrictedDTML) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Let.py, line 148, in render (Object: filterString="REQUEST.get( 'folderfilter', '' )" filter="decodeFolderFilter( filterString )") File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 661, in renderwb (Object: listFolderContents( filter=filter )) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Let.py, line 146, in render (Object: obj="_.getitem('sequence-item', 0 )" folderish=isPrincipiaFolderish portalish="_.hasattr( obj, 'isPortalContent' ) and obj.isPortalContent" methodID="folderish and '/folder_contents' or ( portalish and '/view' or '' )" getIcon="_.hasattr(obj, 'getIcon') and obj.getIcon()" icon="getIcon or _.getattr(obj, 'icon', '')") File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/AccessControl/DTML.py, line 101, in guarded_getattr (Object: RestrictedDTML) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py, line 120, in guarded_getattr (Object: DynamicType) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py, line 103, in aq_validate (Object: DynamicType) File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/AccessControl/SecurityManager.py, line 149, in validate File /export/arseed/tfs-lib/zope/zope-2.4.0/lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeSecurityPolicy.py, line 229, in validate Unauthorized: (see above)

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

This will be the last post from on this thread. We moved all discussions to mk-zprod-devel(a)thingamy.net Sign up at: http://www.thingamy.com/mailman/listinfo/mk-zprod-devel/ Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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New Versions of SmartWizard, SmartSections and Product Generator Frontend
by Stephan Richter 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Hello everyone, I have uploaded my newest development version of SmartWizard and SmartSections, but I am not not sure they are more stable. They fix some serious bugs and some more comfort was added to SmartWizard. I also put the Product Generator Frontend (very, very early version) as an example of SmartWizard at http://www.zope.org/Members/srichter/Products/SmartWizard/ProductGenerator.…. (requires OrderedFolders, CoreSessionTracking, TransparentFolders, Formulator and SmartSections) Product Links: http://www.zope.org/Members/srichter/Products/SmartWizard (requires OrderedFolders, CoreSessionTracking and TransparentFolders; to make the experience worthwhile: Formulator, SmartSections) http://www.zope.org/Members/srichter/Products/SmartSections (requires OrderedFolders, Formulator) NOTE: All that is in early stages of development. When I come back from my trip, I will stabalize everything and hope to reach version 1.0 of these products quickly. If you have questions and bug reports, please e-mail me. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

>I just realised something. How do you need this to work? With regards to >the wizard. Should mk-zprod produce the files and add them to a folder in >itself? Or should it return everything for the wizard to handle? All what the wizard will do is provide the user with a nice interface/GUI to enter the information. I will then pass the information to the above mentioned management methods and the MakeZProduct Product will then generate the code and save it to the file system. BTW, we will assume that the user that runs the Zope engine has write access to /ZOPE/lib/python/Products. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 29 Jun '01

29 Jun '01

Erik, I think we need to setup a separate mailing list for this project. Can you do that? I think the discussion is getting too specific now. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Best Free UML, XMI, Zope/Transwarp tools
by jimbo 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

I've been looking for a standard *FREE* tool that I can use to design Zope apps. I think my search is over. It seems to be a good tool for students because it's free and comes with support for Java, Persistence and XMI, Full and partial exchange. I wonder if Transwarp is at the point of being able to use UML/XMI stuff. Here is the URL for the UML tool http://www.ii.atos-group.com/rhone-alpes/Dom/english/ -Jimbo

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url_quote
by Petr Knapek 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Hi Zopists, is it bug or feature, when I do this: <dtml-var id url_quote> then not only 'id' is returned, but something what looks like this: <dtml-var REQUEST['URL']>/<dtml-var id> where id is url_quoted. Shouldn't only url_quoted value of id be returned instead of the above noted URI? I use Zope 2.3.1 with python 1.5.2 on Debian and FreeBSD. Petr PS I was not able to check it at www.zope.org because of it's unreachability. -- Petr Knápek Network Development NEXTRA Czech Republic s.r.o. http://www.nextra.cz/ V Celnici 10 / CZ - 117 21 Praha 1 / Czech Republic Tel: +420/2/96 355 111 / Mobile: +420/604-202 611 E-Mail: petr.knapek(a)nextra.com Contact address: Hlinky 114 / CZ - 603 00 Brno / Czech Republic Tel: +420/5/43 554 150 / FAX: +420/5/43 554 214 see Disclaimer http://www.nextra.cz/disclaimer/

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Re: ZPL and GPL
by Fred Wilson Horch 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

Barry A. Warsaw writes: > I think I'm accurately channeling Guido when I say that Python will > never be GPL'd. AFAIK, there is no GPL code even in the standard > Python distribution. Both of those states of affair are by conscious > decision: regardless of what you think of the GPL (and I personally > happen to believe it can be a good license for /some/ software, but > not all) GPL'ing Python would be a very bad thing. Guido has always > intended for people to do whatever they want with Python, including > using it in everything from closed source, proprietary, big-$$$ > software to completely free software. That's been a key to Python's > success, IMO. I respectfully disagree about the last point. But it would be nice to hear what Guido thinks, and what Digital Creation thinks. Knowing that the copyright holders have made a conscious decision not to allow developers to obtain Python and Zope under the terms of the GPL in the belief that this allows people to do "whatever they want" with it does help us evaluate the long-term prospects for these systems in the marketplace. I would love to take this discussion to a different forum. Can someone post the name of the zope licensing list so I don't waste non-lawyers' time with an analysis of the correlation between licensing schemes and success of various open source projects (a subject we intellectual property attorneys find extremely fascinating!)? Some compelling case studies are Linux, gcc, apache, perl and ruby (see, in particular, Ruby's choice of licensing provision at http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/LICENSE.txt -- you can get ruby either under the GPL or under a home-grown Ruby license -- your choice). Python is a great language, but it's not the only game in town! It's very hard for me to see how offering developers the choice to obtain Python both under the GPL and under a non-free software license that permits proprietary extensions would harm Python's success. (But I'm just an attorney. ;-) I hope this discussion is interesting and useful. To people who have better things to think about: I apologize for taken up time with this, but I hope one day a discussion of the licensing uncertainties surrounding Python and Zope will no longer be necessary. Best regards, Fred -- Fred Wilson Horch mailto:fhorch@ecoaccess.org Executive Director, EcoAccess http://ecoaccess.org/ P.O. Box 2823, Durham, NC 27715-2823 phone: 919.419-8567

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