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Speed up the learning curve
by Rene Pijlman 28 Jun '01

28 Jun '01

A suggestion to cut the Zope learning curve down by half a day... When the programmer forgets the docstring in a method of a Python-based product, instead of saying "Sorry, the requested resource does not exist." Zope could say: "Sorry, this method has no docstring." Yes, I know this behaviour is well-documented. But the message gives no clue to lead the unwary newbie from the error to the documentation. There are so many useful things I could have done in this half day :-/ Regards, René Pijlman

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

>So what does it do? :) It is a general Wizard Builder with which you could build a Wizard that asks for all the necessary information to auto-generate a Python Product (for example). >What I'm thinking is this: maybe use SmartWizard to meta-program you >Python Product; that creates a definition file(s) of some sort which is >sent to mk-zprod; mk-zprod consults the WarpFramework do make sure we >don't create too much work for ourselves, and also provides us with nice >default HTML/DTML-pages, and finally, Formulator could be used to do >validation on those HTML/DTML-pages. Exactly that. But the SmartWizard would provide you with a framework to build this "Make New Python Product Wizard". If I get far enough, I will release the pre alpha today, just you see the proof of concept... >Or are we talking past eachother here? Nope, we don't. But SmartWizard is a more general tool than you were thinking of it. >It would be very cool to have a tool like that. I agree. It is annoying to code all that stuff all the time. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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ZPL and GPL
by Shane Hathaway 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

According to management, there's a zope-license list somewhere and we expect to move to a GPL compatible license. Paul says: "I think the goal should be for Zope and Python to converge on the same license, with perhaps the new license being some off-the-shelf license like Apache's." Shane

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL
by Anthony Baxter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

>>> Michael "R." Bernstein wrote > Unless I've misunderstood something (which is certainly possible), DC > doesn't seem to have anything to lose by switching from a BSD style > license to the GPL (or a GPL style license with an additional optional > attribution clause), and quite a bit to gain. They will probably lose developer mindshare. Given how important this is to Zope's growth (and to DC's growth, as a result), this is far far more important than the karma from switching to the far less flexible GPL. Your argument seems to be that DC would want to control other companies ability to make distributions derived from Zope - unless they've been hiding this nefarious plan from the community, this doesn't seem to be an objective for them. As far as a contributor to Zope wanting to keep their work free, then if the ZPL is GPL compatible, they can make their components GPLd. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

At 06:05 PM 6/27/01 +0200, Erik Enge wrote: >On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Stephan Richter wrote: > > > Exactly that. But the SmartWizard would provide you with a framework > > to build this "Make New Python Product Wizard". If I get far enough, I > > will release the pre alpha today, just you see the proof of concept... > >Cool! I'll be looking forward to it. I have already a decent version running now. I want to add the Formulator and SmartSections WizardPage Templates to the system and make it better looking before the release tonight (or more in the morning). Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

> > I will upload the documents tomorrow though, since it is late here and > > I have to do some work still. > >Ok. I'll begin thinking about all the stuff I dreamt of making mk-zprod >into. Okay, okay...I stayed up and typed it down pretty quick (2 hours). I attached it to this mail. It is plain text, since I was too lazy to do it in HTML. It might be a little unstructured, but I am too tired to fix that now. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Spell checking module
by Remi Delon 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hello, I have a website where users can post messages (using a textarea). I would like to be able to spell-check what they submit and notify them of possible mistakes. (much like the online spell-checker of hotmail that I'm using right now :-)) Has anybody ever written anything for zope that does something similar ? I was thinking of using ispell, maybe through a pipe ? A search on "ispell" or even "spell" on the zope.org website doesn't give any interesting result (same on python.org) Thanks. Rémi. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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url quote from pyton scripts
by Magnus Heino (Rivermen) 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

Hi. How can I do a url quote from a python script? Can I somehow access the method in urllib or DT_Var or how can it be done? -- /Magnus Heino

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Re: Something better than ZClasses (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zcatalog bloat problem (berkeleydb is a solution?))
by Stephan Richter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

>What is ZPI? Typo: Read API > > Well, the SmartWizard would be like the frontend for it. If you want > > to see an early non-SmartWizard-framework version, look at the > > ProiektorInstaller. Just imagine you can build installers like that > > in Zope. I hope to be done with the first version on Thursday. > >Great, will you let us know? Of course. ;-) Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL
by Anthony Baxter 27 Jun '01

27 Jun '01

>>> Michael "R." Bernstein wrote > I guess I don't understand how licensing Python under the GPL would > prevent people from writing proprietary software in Python. embedded or frozen python. I know I'd much rather see Python embedded in applications than Tcl or (god help us all) Javascript/ECCCHMAScript. I can't see cisco agreeing to opensource IOS so that they can embed a decent language in it. -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood.

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