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Advice on DTMLDocument
by Andy McKay 15 Sep '00

15 Sep '00

Hi there, Well a while ago I came across a bug that I couldnt cut and paste and object. A few people helped me out on that, thanks. Ive had a week of squishing bugs and finally got to this one. The reason why? I was subclassing DTMLDocument but using my own __init__ (similar to one where I dont subclass from DTMLDocument), where I didnt fiddle with __name__. The result was when absolute_url() was called I was getting: http://fork:8080/code/test/ElementWithAttributes ! Solutions I have found for this: - Dont subclass from DTMLDocument. This is not an option for me. - Dont try to use your own __init__, use DTMLDocument. This works great, but now I have to recreate all my objects. My current scheme is create the object in manage_addObject, let DTMLDocument do the __init__, then manipulate it then and there in the manage_addObject. Help would be appreciated on: - Why is this happening? A class fine breaks if you subclass DTMLDocument, it would seem __name__ is being used some times, not in others. - Is something funky happening in DTMLDocument __init__, which subclasses DTMLMethod etc...? Ive got a fix, but I only sort of know why and that bugs me. Thanks. -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ODBC Error
by Hung Jung Lu 15 Sep '00

15 Sep '00

--- In zope(a)egroups.com, Julio Flores Schwarzbeck <jflores@c...> wrote: >The problem is that no matter what I do, with any valid sql statement like >"select * from test1" gives me the following error: > >Error Type: ValueError >Error Value: unpack sequence of wrong size >(RoleMgr) > >Has anyone played with DBC/DBF files and encountered a similar problem? >thx. Hmm... were you issue the SQL from the Test tab? Try to make an actual ZSQL method. And see if it works. The ZODBC adapter had that problem... (Test tab did not work, but actual ZSQL worked.) I'd be shocked if it has not been fixed all this time. See, this would be what I call a carcass piece of software. No one maintains it anymore. It just sits dead there, despite that the problem has been metioned again and again. :) You'll do a great service if you could fix it and upload it to Zope website. Hung Jung _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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ODBC Error
by Julio Flores Schwarzbeck 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hi all, this pertains to Windows 98/ODBC Connection & zope 2.1.4 (ODBC Driver is ZODBC Database Adapter 3.1.0b2 (Development) 1999/09/03 - installed from the zope site). I created a sample 2-table database using VisualFox 6.0, I got the connection ok in the control panel, I added the ODBC object in the zope control panel and actually succeeded in connecting. The problem is that no matter what I do, with any valid sql statement like "select * from test1" gives me the following error: Error Type: ValueError Error Value: unpack sequence of wrong size (RoleMgr) Has anyone played with DBC/DBF files and encountered a similar problem? thx. Julio

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ZPatterns. obj has no getProperty.
by James Johnson 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Where do I place the ZClass. I've put a dtml method named index_html in it. I have a specialist and the ZClass in a product folder. is this the correct way. Here is the code <dtml-var standard_html_header> <h2><dtml-var title_or_id> <dtml-var document_title></h2> <dtml-let myPPS="propertysheets.get('ShopperData')"> <p> email: <dtml-var "myPPS.getProperty('email')"> address: <dtml-var "myPPS.getProperty('address')"> </p> </dtml-let> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> Get your Free E-mail at http://tacoma.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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Yup, the problem's still there...
by Chris Withers 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Lance wrote: > I think you have to not only > inherit RoleManager, but OFS.SimpleItem.Item as well. At least, that's what > the Security HOWTO seems to imply. No, it shouldn't :( SimpleItem.Item has __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1 in it, so it just masks the problem rather than solving it properly... cheers, Chris

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RE: Voting for patches?
by Jon Franz 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

This is already being setup as part of the patch and small change integration page... more details once it's up this weekend ;P you will like. >>> Message: 9 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:09:32 +0100 From: Chris Withers <chrisw(a)nipltd.com> Organization: New Information Paradigms To: Adam Karpierz <karpierz(a)itl.pl> CC: "zope-dev(a)zope.org" <zope-dev(a)zope.org> Subject: [Zope-dev] Voting for Patches? Adam Karpierz wrote: > There is a patch for it: > http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1540/view I wonder whether it'd be worth enabling people to vote on what patches they'd like integreated and what bugs they'd like solved in the collector? The one for me is the ability, in effect, to shout 'Me too!' when I see a bug that I've experienced too. Maybe this would help filter down the collector or at least give anotehr way that it could be prioritised? cheers, Chris <<

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Bugs in new Security Stuff :P (part1)
by Chris Withers 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Right, firstup this thing about HTMLFile's which form part of the management interface. Why are they totally immune to the security stuff? It gets really confusing when something works fine in a management screen and yet breaks everywhere else, especially when it's not throwing a security error (more in part II ;-) So, why is it like this? cheers, Chris

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Aaargh, no safe seperators :S
by Chris Withers 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Shane Hathaway wrote: > That would probably work, but isn't kind of ugly? Now we'd be forcing > people to realize that colons can be path separators. Only Mac users > know this. :-) Well, / and \ are bad XML ; is bad XML, and _really_ ugly . confuses when there's .'s in ids Any other suggestions :S cheers, Chris

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Comparing folder instances
by Carl Robitaille 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hi, A quick question. How do I compare folder instances ?(or any instances as a matter of fact). Here is a simple code showing what I tried: <dtml-in "objectValues(['Folder'])"> <dtml-var "_.getitem('sequence-item')"> <dtml-var "images"> <dtml-var "_.getitem('sequence-item')==images"> </dtml-in> Here is now the resulting HTML <Folder instance at 85cf958> <Folder instance at 85cf958> 0 <Folder instance at 858a168> <Folder instance at 85cf958> 0 Why isn't the first comparison returning true? What I want to use is something like: <dtml-in "objectValues(['Folder'])"> <dtml-if "_.getitem('sequence-item')==images"> EQUAL <dtml-else> NOT EQUAL </dtml-if> </dtml-in> Thanks a lot in advance for your comments. Carl

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Re: /, XML, DTML syntaxgeddon
by Spicklemire, Jerry 14 Sep '00

14 Sep '00

Hi Folks, As for "re-doing" DTML, there's a cogent point made in Extreme Programming circles that goes something like this: "Names matter. For every time someone writes (types?) the name of an object, it will be read 10 times. Pick Good Names." Much of the DTML confusion arises from "names" that look like they were chosen to save typing effort. That may be OK for a project that will never be used by more than a small handful of folks who can answer questions for each other, but Open Source Zope is going on it's second birthday now. Too many newbies keep stumbling over things like "_", which should have been named something meaningful quite some time ago. But that's just one example. Instead of x vs. "x", how about render(x), or x.render(), and execute(x), or x.execute(). Maybe expr="x" and name="y" are clear to someone, but what matters to me is what process is going to be carried out on x and y, and I can't tell that from reading DTML. I do understand that one of the points of OO is that I shouldn't have to know the details of the actual process that happens when I hand one object to another. Ironically, as things are, I have to "know" anyhow, in order to get things working. But the worst part is, even after working through many examples of complex DTML, this stuff is still not "obvious". The greatest mystery to me is how something this obscure could have possibly been written in Python, which is about as obvious as code gets. Still Zopin', Jerry S.

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