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Blueprint: zope.generations implemented
by Michael Howitz 18 Sep '10

18 Sep '10

Hi, I implemented the blue print https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zope.app.generations/+spec/zope.generations I extracted the parts of zope.app.generations which are ZMI independent into a new zope.generations package. Anyone who wants to review what I have done? (Although I already released the new packages as 3.7.0) Yours sincerely, -- Michael Howitz · mh(a)gocept.com · software developer gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 8 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

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Zope Tests: 52 OK, 9 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 18 Sep '10

18 Sep '10

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Sep 17 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Sat Sep 18 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 61 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 20 from buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 19 from ccomb at free.fr, 12 from jdriessen at thehealthagency.com. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 09:23:47 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020134.html Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 09:33:50 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020139.html Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 10:04:35 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020140.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 16:44:01 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020147.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 16:52:17 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020148.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:01:30 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020149.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:37:14 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020153.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 18:13:15 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020156.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 18:38:22 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020158.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 08:33:33 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020130.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 08:34:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020131.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 08:43:40 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020132.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 09:23:17 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020133.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 09:31:11 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020135.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 09:31:57 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020136.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 09:32:57 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020137.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 09:33:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020138.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 13:33:29 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020141.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 13:34:09 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020142.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 13:34:16 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020143.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 16:18:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020144.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 16:27:09 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020145.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 16:35:52 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020146.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:09:51 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020150.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:17:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020151.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:25:24 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020152.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 17:48:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020154.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 18:01:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020155.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 18:25:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020157.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 19:34:01 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020159.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:48:44 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020160.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:50:32 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020161.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:53:17 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020162.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:54:16 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020163.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:55:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020164.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 19:59:25 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020165.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 20:30:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020166.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Fri Sep 17 21:14:31 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020167.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 21:26:06 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020168.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:31:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020169.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:33:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020170.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:35:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020171.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:37:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020172.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:39:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020173.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Sep 17 21:41:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020174.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Fri Sep 17 22:02:19 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020175.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 22:03:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020177.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.6.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 22:03:10 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020176.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 22:03:11 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020178.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Fri Sep 17 22:10:58 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020179.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 22:22:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020180.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Fri Sep 17 23:01:28 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020181.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Fri Sep 17 23:19:21 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020182.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 23:59:32 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020183.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 00:00:06 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020184.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 00:00:11 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020185.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 00:21:18 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020186.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 00:42:54 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020187.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 01:42:37 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020188.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 01:43:14 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020189.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Sep 18 01:43:22 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020190.html

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Heads up: ZODB probably won't work with Python 2.7
by Jim Fulton 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

I suspect that the shenanigans played by the ZODB persistent cache implementation is running afoul of some changes in the garbage collection implementation in Python 2.7. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/641481 The person reporting this was running a Python compiled in debug mode. This will sometimes detect subtle memory management bugs not detected with a normal build. ZODB's tests pass with a normal Python 2.7 build and with a debug Python 2.6 build. I've tracked one source of crash in a debug build to the cache's attempts to manage weak references to ghosts. Even hacking around this, there are other crashes that, I assume, are related. :( I'll dig further, but I strongly suspect that moving to Python 2.7 will require a cache reimplementation that uses real Python weak references. This won't happen in ZODB 3.10. If there is anyone on this list who has knowledge of Python GC internals, I'd love to get some help. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton

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The test suite is not registered in setup.py of zope.datetime
by Robin Lee 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

The test suite is not registered in setup.py of zope.datetime Robin

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The test suite is not registered in setup.py of zope.i18n
by Robin Lee 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

The test suite is not registered in setup.py of zope.i18n. Robin

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Zope Toolkit - new 1.0 branch
by Hanno Schlichting 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Hi. After the release of the ZTK 1.0c1 I also created a maintenance branch for the ZTK 1.0. The branch can be found at: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/branches/1.0 Please update the buildbots to test this branch under all of Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6. The trunk is now open to development of the ZTK 1.1. Please adjust the buildbots to test the trunk on Python 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7. Python 2.4 is no longer supported for the ZTK 1.1 release but we like to get Python 2.7 support. On behalf of the ZTK release team, Hanno

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buidout 1.5
by Christophe Combelles 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

There are some discussions in the grok and bluebream lists about the opportunity to upgrade to buildout 1.5, as it will provide *isolation without virtualenv*, so it should facilitate installations and deployments. Is it too late for the ZTK 1.0? Is it worth at least trying to see what it does? Christophe

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Zope Tests: 37 OK, 12 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Sep 16 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Fri Sep 17 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 49 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 21 from buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 8 from ccomb at free.fr, 10 from jdriessen at thehealthagency.com. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 08:06:03 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020081.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 16:44:24 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020087.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 16:52:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020088.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:02:09 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020089.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:38:02 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020093.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 18:14:19 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020096.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 18:39:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020098.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 19:35:39 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020099.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 20:31:30 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020106.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 21:27:31 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020108.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 22:24:10 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020120.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 23:21:22 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020122.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 08:31:12 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020082.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 08:31:56 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020083.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 16:18:50 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020084.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 16:27:31 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020085.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 16:36:18 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020086.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:10:46 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020090.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:18:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020091.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:26:15 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020092.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 17:49:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020094.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 18:02:11 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020095.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Thu Sep 16 18:27:04 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020097.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:48:37 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020100.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:50:29 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020101.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:53:14 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020102.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:54:14 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020103.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:55:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020104.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Thu Sep 16 19:59:25 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020105.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Thu Sep 16 21:12:32 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020107.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:30:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020109.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:32:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020110.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:34:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020111.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:36:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020112.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:38:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020113.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 16 21:40:42 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020114.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Thu Sep 16 22:00:04 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020115.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Thu Sep 16 22:03:03 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020116.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.6.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Thu Sep 16 22:03:05 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020117.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Thu Sep 16 22:03:06 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020118.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Thu Sep 16 22:11:01 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020119.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Thu Sep 16 23:04:25 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020121.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 00:21:29 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020123.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 00:43:32 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020124.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 01:41:51 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020125.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 01:42:28 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020126.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Fri Sep 17 01:42:34 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020127.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 07:31:05 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020128.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Fri Sep 17 07:31:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020129.html

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Zope Tests: 46 OK, 7 Failed, 2 Unknown
by Zope Tests Summarizer 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Tue Sep 14 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Wed Sep 15 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 55 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 2 from buildbot at enfoldsystems.com, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 19 from buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 8 from ccomb at free.fr, 16 from jdriessen at thehealthagency.com. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 16:19:59 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019987.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 16:54:15 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019991.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:22:59 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019995.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 18:01:58 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019998.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 18:28:27 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020000.html Subject: FAILED : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 20:20:55 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020009.html Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Wed Sep 15 01:26:59 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020028.html Unknown ------- Subject: [zodb-tests] buildbot failure in Enfold Systems on zodb-trunk-python-2.6-maestro From: buildbot at enfoldsystems.com Date: Wed Sep 15 03:10:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020031.html Subject: [zodb-tests] buildbot failure in Enfold Systems on zodb-trunk-python-2.5-maestro From: buildbot at enfoldsystems.com Date: Wed Sep 15 04:10:33 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020032.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 08:31:09 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019978.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 08:31:59 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019979.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 08:34:43 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019980.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 10:31:12 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019981.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 10:32:00 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019982.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 10:34:58 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019983.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 11:34:00 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019984.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 11:34:44 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019985.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 11:35:18 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019986.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 16:29:12 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019988.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 16:38:25 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019989.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 16:47:50 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019990.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:00:12 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019992.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:05:58 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019993.html Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:11:07 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019994.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:34:43 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019996.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 17:48:20 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019997.html Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 18:15:38 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/019999.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 19:24:56 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020001.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:48:33 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020002.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:50:25 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020003.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:53:56 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020004.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:54:04 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020005.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:54:08 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020006.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 19:55:48 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020007.html Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Tue Sep 14 20:00:09 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020008.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Tue Sep 14 21:12:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020010.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 21:17:01 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020011.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:30:44 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020012.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:32:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020013.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:34:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020014.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:36:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020015.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:38:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020016.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.5 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Sep 14 21:40:45 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020017.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Tue Sep 14 22:04:02 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020018.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.6.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Tue Sep 14 22:04:03 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020019.html Subject: OK : Bluebream / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Tue Sep 14 22:04:07 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020020.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-64bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Tue Sep 14 22:10:57 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020021.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 22:13:46 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020022.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Tue Sep 14 22:17:32 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020023.html Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org Date: Tue Sep 14 23:10:53 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020024.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-32bit-linux From: buildbot at pov.lt Date: Tue Sep 14 23:11:34 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020025.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.4.6 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Wed Sep 15 00:21:15 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020026.html Subject: OK : Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.5.5 64bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Wed Sep 15 00:43:10 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020027.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Wed Sep 15 01:27:35 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020029.html Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Wed Sep 15 01:27:49 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-September/020030.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] Survey: most obscure errors
by Edwin Grubbs 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

> From: Marius Gedminas <marius(a)gedmin.as> > Date: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:00 AM > Subject: [Zope-dev] Survey: most obscure errors > To: zope-dev(a)zope.org > > > What are the most obscure error conditions you've encountered while > developing Zopeish[1] applications? > > [1] ZTK, Grok, Bluebream, the old Zope 3.x KGSes all qualify. > > I'm talking about situations where the error message/traceback are > disconnected from the actual cause. For example, forgetting to add a > security declaration in ZCML can cause TraversalError (because > ForbiddenAttribute is a subclass of AttributeError), which leads the > developer off to a wild goose chase looking for why the attribute is > missing (was it misspelled? did it come from an old database?) the first > few times this kind of error happens. > > One of the goals we came up with in the Zope Summit in Halle was to > identify the most annoying of these kinds of error messages and fix > them. I need your help for the identifying part! > > Marius Gedminas The most common confusing error that I encounter is when some underlying code has an AttributeError, but zope's traversal code doesn't tell me about that exception, it just tells me that the attribute several layers up could not be traversed. For example, there is a bug in a function like this: def format_data(foo): return "%d: %s" % (foo.id, foo.name) def baz(foo_id): foo = load_foo(foo_id) return format_data(foo) class FooView: @property def my_foo(self): return baz(self.context.foo_id) When the template tries to traverse view/my_foo, if foo doesn't have the "name" attribute, it fails, but it only tells you that my_foo couldn't be found on the view. I used to spend quite a bit of time trying to figure out whether I changed some configuration that caused this error. If the attribute was on a context object with a security wrapper, I would be checking that also. Now, I usually recognize that I have to add pdb.set_trace() inside of my_foo so that I can see where the AttributeError is really raised. I reported the bug two years ago, but I guess I didn't explain the problem very well. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/311062 -Edwin

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