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Heads up: Zope Framework -> Zope Toolkit
by Martijn Faassen 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi there, The Zope Framework is now renamed to be the "Zope Toolkit". "Framework" proved to be a controversial name that implies a range of things to people we do not want to imply - in particular that you have to buy into the whole in order to use some of its parts. Zope Toolkit is a more neutral name that still implies we manage this as a whole, but doesn't imply you have to buy into the whole in order to use some of the parts. The Zope Toolkit contains a lot of libraries and frameworks, and also an overarching approach to how such frameworks are generally constructed (the component architecture). We now therefore have a Zope Toolkit Steering Group. :) Regards, Martijn

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Zope Tests: 8 OK
by Zope Tests Summarizer 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Apr 9 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Apr 10 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:44:47 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011427.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:46:49 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011428.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:48:49 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011429.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:50:49 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011430.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.1 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:52:49 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011431.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:54:50 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011432.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:56:53 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011433.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.1 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Apr 9 20:58:53 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011434.html

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possible split of zope.app.generations to zope.generations
by Lacko Roman 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi, Now when zope refactoring is in progress, would it be possible to refactor zope.app.generations package so there would be for example package zope.generations that would depend only on ZODB3 package ? I'm using zope.app.generations to upgrade the DB schema in my web project, and in future I want to use ZODB3 in my desktop-only projects. Thanks in advance Regards Roman Lacko

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several zope.* libs within gae (was ZCML implementations: where should they go)
by Tobias Rodäbel 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Hanno Schlichting wrote: >> Wichert Akkerman wrote: >>> I'ld rather not see a whole slew of extra packagse appear. I also wonder >>> how the extra number of packages and increasing size of sys.path >>> influence performance and restrictions on environments like GAE. >> >> For environments like GAE you don't want setuptools and its magic to be >> part of your application. This is were repackaging your entire app into >> one zipped egg or some other flat structure comes in handy. >> >> Setuptools and eggs are a distribution format from my point of view. >> They are certainly not the best way to deploy your applications. The >> growing sys.path is affecting performance to some degree in all >> deployment environments. > > Well, zc.buildout ought to be able to eliminate this concern for GAE > deployment. I haven't tried the recipe below, but it certainly seems > like the right idea. > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/rod.recipe.appengine I released a new version today. It's a lot easier now to use several eggs within gae. This test thingy http://zpttest.appspot.com/ uses zope.interface and zope.pagetemplate plus their dependencies. I'm planning to release another sample project maybe during easter holidays. It's much more fun since you zope people cleaned up a lot of dependencies and unveiled zc.buildout. Thanks! Cheers, Tobias

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Why doesn't this buildout run the zdaemon tests?
by Chris Withers 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hi All, Apologies for the current test failure on trunk, why doesn't the following testrunner run the zdaemon tests? [buildout] parts = test extends = http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/tags/2.12.0a1/versions-zope2.cfg versions = versions develop = Zope zdaemon [versions] setuptools = 0.6c9 zc.buildout = 1.2.1 zdaemon = Zope2 = [test] recipe = zc.recipe.testrunner eggs = Zope2 As before, "Zope" contains a checkout of the trunk of the Zope2 egg, and zdaemon contains a checkout of the trunk of zdaemon egg? Zope2 depends on zdaemon, so why are its tests not getting run when I do bin/test? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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zdaemon is alpha?
by Chris Withers 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hey All, http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zdaemon indicates that zdaemon is alpha. I would have though it would be marked as stable, given how long its been around? Is there a reason for that? If not, I'll change it on trunk... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed
by Zope Tests Summarizer 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Apr 8 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Thu Apr 9 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures ------------- Subject: FAILED (errors=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.1 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 21:02:08 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011426.html Tests passed OK --------------- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:47:52 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011419.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:49:56 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011420.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:51:57 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011421.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:53:58 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011422.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.1 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:55:59 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011423.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 20:57:59 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011424.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Wed Apr 8 21:00:00 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-April/011425.html

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running all Zope 2 tests on trunk?
by Chris Withers 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Hey All, Is this buildout sufficient to run all the Zope 2 tests on trunk: [buildout] parts = test extends = http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Zope/tags/2.12.0a1/versions-zope2.cfg develop = Zope # Zope is a checkout of: # svn+ssh://chrisw@svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk [test] recipe = zc.recipe.testrunner eggs = Zope2 cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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Announcing: Zope 4.0 project
by Tres Seaver 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Zope community, I am pleased to announce the creation of the "Zope 4.0" project. After extensive discussion with the Zope wizards in conclave at PyCon 2009, the new project's website has been launched: http://zopefour.org/ Enjoy! Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tseaver(a)palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ01VR+gerLs4ltQ4RAiljAKCACB9aMtI3YnsXPZss4hdEDrA7FACgsqv7 3jR6FQeEy0qpX4D4NOX+HsA= =q8Fu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
by Chris Withers 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Gary Poster wrote: > > Within the constraints above, then, in line with your original proposal, > I think we'd be fine with "Zope Framework," and "Zope 2." We certainly > don't need Zope-3-the-tarball, if that's what you meant. Zope Framework (and maybe even ZF4) seems to have general agreement. "Zope 2" can't stay as is, because people stick in in the chain of: Zope 1, Zope 2, Zope 3, Zope Framework 4 ...so there will be confusion. "Zope Standard 4.0" is my current choice, on the basis that I've not heard any complaints against it yet and I know Andreas hates Zope Classic ;-) > As a related aside, I personally think that Plone should be featured here. Indeed. ZF4 as the base for ZS, Plone, Grok and Repoze works for me :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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