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Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/ deprecated ZGadfly/Gadfly
by Tres Seaver 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > Log message for revision 40981: > deprecated ZGadfly/Gadfly > > > Changed: > U Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt > U Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/ZGadflyDA/__init__.py > > -=- > Modified: Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt > =================================================================== > --- Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt 2005-12-22 11:32:11 UTC (rev 40980) > +++ Zope/trunk/doc/CHANGES.txt 2005-12-22 11:37:44 UTC (rev 40981) > @@ -28,6 +28,8 @@ > > - ZClasses are deprecated and should no longer be used. > > + - ZGadyFlyDA/Gadfly is deprecated > + > - Added a "clock server" servertype which allows users to > configure methods that should be called periodically as if > they were being called by a remote user agent on one of Zope's > > Modified: Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/ZGadflyDA/__init__.py > =================================================================== > --- Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/ZGadflyDA/__init__.py 2005-12-22 11:32:11 UTC (rev 40980) > +++ Zope/trunk/lib/python/Products/ZGadflyDA/__init__.py 2005-12-22 11:37:44 UTC (rev 40981) > @@ -15,6 +15,12 @@ > $Id$ > """ > > +import warnings > +warnings.warn('Using Gadfly and ZGadflyDA is deprecated. The module will be ' > + 'removed in Zope 2.11)', > + DeprecationWarning, > + stacklevel=2) > + > import Globals, os > > classes=('DA.Connection',) > Deprecation warnings at package scopy of a product aren't helpful, because they fire *every time Zope starts*, whether the person *uses* the deprecated pacakge or not. Let's find a way to trigger the warning from *third-party code*, but not from Zope code itself (I note that the ZClass warning spews every time, as well). Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 tseaver(a)palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDqwT4+gerLs4ltQ4RAtrlAJ9qcT6Qhl5JR3lJRlwtxbxSA5iVGQCcCIXq edjqSCeMePJxdJFZVdPldTw= =hWk4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2434 Blamelist: andreasjung BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2433 Blamelist: efge BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)
by Chris McDonough 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

I'm looking for opinions here.. The next major Zope 2 release and perhaps the next major Zope 3 release will support the loading of packages and (for Zope 2) Products from Python "Egg" files. See http://peak.telecommunity.com/ DevCenter/PythonEggs for an overview. This provides the following benefits: - A packaging pattern that includes standardized metadata which extends existing distutils patterns. - A mechanism to find "certain kinds" of packages (via egg "entry points"). This is important for Zope 2 because it means we can make the use of the Products package namespace optional.. Products needn't be installed into "Products" IOW. - Simpler installation (more than one product can exist in a single egg file). - Dependencies between "distributions" (different egg files) may exist within the standard metadata, and the egg loading machinery can detect whether a dependency is missing. - Egg products can be registered with online catalogs like Cheese Shop, etc very simply. A "spike solution" for egg support in Zope 2 in the form of a product named "Basket" (http://www.plope.com/software/Basket/Basket) already exists. By doing this, we know a lot more about what it will take to put egg support "in to the core". Currently, the Basket product makes the following important assumptions: - There should be no explicit installation step for eggs other than placing the egg on somewhere on Zope's PYTHONPATH. - Packagers can mark their distributions as "non-zip-safe", which causes Basket to automatically unpack the egg file into disk files in a cache directory when Zope starts. This is important for existing products that expect some of their data files to be on disk and not in the egg zipfile. The progenitor of Eggs (Phillip Eby) suggests that this is too implicit. He suggests instead that people who install packages should use a program which implicitly installs packages. The major difference between this and what happens in Basket currently is that packages would be that non-zip-safe packages would be "exploded" at installation time rather than at Zope startup time. The question is this: do you think there should be an explicit "install" step for egg packages/Products or do you think it should be possible to just put eggs on your PYTHONPATH (and perhaps adjust a config file with "requirements")?

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Zope Book 2.7 edition
by Andreas Jung 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Chris, what do you think about moving the current version of the ZB hosted on plope.com back on zope.org. The quickstart page of Zope still points to the 2.6 edition. I would like to get of the 2.6 edition and call it just "Zope Book" + the data of the last modification. Since we can not synchronize Zope release with the Zope Book it would make sense to me to get rid of the version number....I think it is confusing to distinguish between the 2.6 and 2.7 edition (when there is already Zope 2.8) and versions hosted on zope.org vs. plope.com. -aj

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Re: [Zope-dev] Product installation (implicit vs. explicit)
by Chris McDonough 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Forwarding to the list for "chewing"... ;-) On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 10:08 AM 12/22/2005 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: >>> The progenitor of Eggs (Phillip Eby) suggests that this is too >>> implicit. He suggests instead that people who install packages >>> should use a program which implicitly installs packages. The major >>> difference between this and what happens in Basket currently is >>> that packages would be that non-zip-safe packages would be >>> "exploded" at installation time rather than at Zope startup time. > > *And* you can get dependencies checked, downloaded, md5's verified, > etc. at that installation time, too. >

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clockserver
by Florent Guillaume 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

What happens if the request started by clockserver takes a long time or hangs? Will the next tick start a new one anyway, or will it be blocked? Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) Director of R&D +33 1 40 33 71 59 http://nuxeo.com fg(a)nuxeo.com

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin
by buildbot＠zope.com 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2429 Blamelist: andreasjung BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
by buildbot＠zope.com 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2429 Blamelist: andreasjung BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

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Modifiying the bootstrap Data.fs?
by Andreas Jung 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Does anyone know how to modify the bootstrap Data.fs that is installed after a new Zope installation and how to modify the Zope Quickstart page? -aj

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