October 2000 - Zope-Dev

FW: FastCGI under IIS
by Becker, Glen 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

-----Original Message----- From: ethan mindlace fremen [mailto:mindlace@digicool.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:45 PM To: Glen Becker Cc: Zope Webmaster Subject: Re: FastCGI under IIS Glen Becker wrote: > > Apparently, Zope has support for FastCGI under IIS. We want to find a FastCGI plug-in for IIS, but have been unable to do so. Is this portion of Zope segregable, so that it could be used by other FastCGI programs? I am but a lowly webmaster. We don't use fastcgi or IIS for zope.org, and so I haven't an idea on what it should be. Please consider contacting the zope developer's list ( zope-dev(a)zope.org ) for more information. Thanks, -- -mindlace- Zopatista Community Liason

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Re: [Zope-dev] UnboundLocalError : LoginMgr 8.8b1, ZPatterns 4.3b1
by Kim Friesen 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

oops, sorry I didn't mean a 'User Folder' ... I actually added a 'Folder' and then added a 'Login Manager' to that Folder. I also tried this with a 'Folder w/Customizer Support' Thanks, Kim Friesen >Message: 11 >From: tsarna(a)endicor.com (Ty Sarna) >Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] UnboundLocalError : LoginMgr 8.8b1, ZPatterns 4.3b1 >Date: 25 Oct 2000 17:43:07 GMT >Organization: Endicor Technologies, Inc., San Antonio, Texas >To: zope-dev(a)zope.org > >In article <F204uabjKoMFYsDSzhx0000100f(a)hotmail.com>, >Kim Friesen <kimcorp(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > I am trying to get Login Manager working and I am getting the following > > error message when I add the LoginManager type to a user folder, has >anyone > > encountered this before ? > >What do you mean by "Add the LoginManager to a user folder". You can't >add LoginManager to a User Folder; it's a replacement for User Folder. > >--__--__-- > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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zoplets....
by Josh Zeidner 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

groove.net has a lot of potential for coordinating open-source projects... maybe someone can schedule one of those hairy zope-xml discussions on there. -josh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Zope Error: You are not authorized to access this resource
by Loibl Johann 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Hi, do anyone know how to generate my own error message if there is a authorization problem? The standard_error_message.html do not influence the response from zope. Thanks, Hannes

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UnboundLocalError : LoginMgr 8.8b1, ZPatterns 4.3b1
by Kim Friesen 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Hi, I am trying to get Login Manager working and I am getting the following error message when I add the LoginManager type to a user folder, has anyone encountered this before ? Thanks, Kim Friesen __ACTION__ Add User Folder Add Login Manager to User Folder Error __PRODUCTS__ LoginManager 0.8.8b1 ZPatterns 0.4.3b1 Zope2 (from CVS 2000-10-25) Python 2.0 __ERROR MESSAGE__ Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: UnboundLocalError Error Value: Local variable 'path' referenced before assignment Troubleshooting Suggestions The URL may be incorrect. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source for this page. If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. [Powered by Zope] Traceback (innermost last): File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: addLoginManager) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: addLoginManager) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 120, in __call__ (Object: addLoginManager) (Info: /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/addLoginManager.dtml) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 528, in __call__ (Object: addLoginManager) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line 633, in renderwob (Object: UserSourcesMetaTypes(this())) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 331, in eval (Object: UserSourcesMetaTypes(this())) (Info: UserSourcesMetaTypes) File /unix2/usr/src/python/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py, line 772, in __getitem__ UnboundLocalError: (see above) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Zopelets, get your Zopelets . . .
by Spicklemire, Jerry 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

FYI, Check out the latest project of Ray Ozzie, the Lotus Notes guy. It sounds like distributed applications, with intermitent access, may be taken a bit more seriously soon: http://www0.mercurycenter.com/svtech/columns/front/docs/dg102400.htm Later, Jerry S.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Migrating from ZClasses to Python Products
by Jason Spisak 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Brett Carter writes: The only problem I am dealing with is size. What kind of a transaction will that be? Huge, no doubt. I would run out of space to buffer it. Does Zope do subtransactions now, or is that still just the ZCatalog? Also, I am running on stock RH6.2 linux and to double my ZODB puts me near the 2 gig file limit. Not as much of a concern as a pain in my neck. Is it faster to modify my installation to allow > 2GB or create from xml/export? Jason > > It should be Really Easy (TM) to write an external method that grabs > the data from your zclasses, and then creates a new instance of your > python object with the zclass data. It's just a big for loop. > -Brett > > >>>>> "Jason" == Jason Spisak <444(a)hiretechs.com> writes: > > Jason> Shane: > >> Jason Spisak wrote: > >> > > > And now the big question... > >> > > > > >> > > > How do you migrate and existing application from ZClasses to Python > >> > > > products? I've got about 50,000 objects. Can it be done or am I stuck > >> > > > with ZClasses? > >> > > > >> > > Andy McKay writes: > >> > > > >> > > Well the number of objects doesnt really matter, but migrating it from > >> > > ZClass to Python - Ive never heard of that happening. It would be a cool > >> > > project though. > >> > >> The hard part (which probably isn't very hard after all :-) ) is writing > >> the product that performs the same function as the ZClass. Once that's > >> done, a fifteen-line external method (that doesn't use any special > >> voodoo) can convert all instances. > >> > >> Shane > > > Jason> Perhaps what I should do is just get the data out, and create new instances > Jason> all via an external method. The migration isn't really a 1 for 1 > Jason> situation. I am trying to address shortcomings like not having a > Jason> "dictionary" type property in Zope properties, etc.. So the implementation > Jason> will be different anyway. I guess an export to XML gives me all the data > Jason> in the objects, right? Then I could use that as a map to construct new > Jason> instances in a different implementation. > > > Jason> Thanks for all the answers, > > Jason> Jason > > Jason> _______________________________________________ > Jason> Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev(a)zope.org > Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > Jason> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > Jason> (Related lists - > Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > Jason> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) >

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Migrating from ZClasses to Python Products
by Jason Spisak 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

And now the big question... How do you migrate and existing application from ZClasses to Python products? I've got about 50,000 objects. Can it be done or am I stuck with ZClasses? Hopefully, Jason Spisak CIO HireTechs.com 6151 West Century Boulevard Suite 900 Los Angeles, CA 90045 P. 310.665.3444 F. 310.665.3544 Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Task, Job or Operation?
by Jimmie Houchin 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

Just a few comments to throw into the naming convention. Any name chosen will require educating the user as to it's definition. Some names are already defined in other spaces. Some of which are heavily overloaded. There is also discussion as to the accuracy of various names in the context of the usage within Zope. It is apparent the choice isn't clear and easy. As Michel has posted that a vote will occur in the near future a determination will be made. Currently one of the terms in usage is External Methods. From my understanding of the future direction of the Python Methods (restricted and unrestricted) the term External will not be accurate as the code will be within the ZODB and the differentiation will be in the capability of the method. Due to this I think the usage of External not be included in the name. Likewise Internal. Regarding Safe and Power. I have no major problems with Safe, however I thing Power brings along a lot of connotations or implications which may or may not be accurate concerning the abilities of Safe. As others have noted why choose Safe when you can use Power. Why, will have to be a part of the educational process. However proper perspective and understanding can start by not using Power in the name. I believe Power is not the right choice. Unsafe has also been proposed. I do not like this either because it is not accurate. Simply because something dangerous, foolish or stupid can be done using this method type does not mean it will be. Are we to label all objects "unsafe" simply because of the capacity of harm? Safety is in the hands of the programer. You cannot stop someone with the capability from doing something harmful if they choose. I would prefer the term Unrestricted or something similar. It simply denotes capabilities without implying it is dangerous. It isn't dangerous, it can be used dangerously, there is a difference. It is like many tools which can be used or abused. Hope this helps. Jimmie Houchin

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RE: [Zope-dev] Unique and Contant object IDs
by Toby Dickenson 25 Oct '00

25 Oct '00

> Yeah, I'd love an ID I could use to grab an object no matter how often > it was used. I suspect you will have to build this yourself. Store a sufficiently random id inside your objects when they are created, and use a ZCatalog to index them. > Why wouldn't the following work though: > > ...in a class method... > > self.theobject = theObject > > ...where theObject is something I want a reference to and self is a > persistent class... theObject would need to be persistent too. This has a number of characteristics that I would class as problems, but may be exactly what you want: * theObject will have different acquisuition context when accessed through its main path, and through self.theobject. This means different: * security * absolute_url * configuration obtained through acquisition. What if theObject is CatalogAware? * theObject isnt removed from the database when it is deleted from its folder; this other reference keeps it alive.

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